We Want Pistols!!!!

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  • Blades

    #31
    Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

    I remember in an interview with DICE, couldnt find it however, they asked if secondary unlocks could be added. They said the current unlock system didnt allow it. So no secondary unlocks.
    EDIT: What the guys above me said. Whoops.

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    • Achilles17

      #32
      Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

      Ugh, people need to realize how rediculously useless a Desert Eagle is in real life. Once you fire it once, you will have to spend at least a second or two bringing the gun back into position. Plus, it is very hard to fire while running - you have to be really strong. It is a gimmicky, hollywood pistol, and that's it. There's a reason that they aren't carried by most soldiers - they just aren't practical, no matter how good they are in Counter-Strike.

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      • jdogg88-Fed

        #33
        Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

        Originally posted by [2bit]Modmaven
        Yep two shots to the head and they are gone. Good Enough

        Right now at 20 damage they are actually in line with quite a few of the SMG's P90, pp19, etc. Higher damage pistols would kinda unbalance everything.
        yeah bad enough how the other guns are now

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        • Marveric
          Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 294

          #34
          Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

          I think an attachable scope to the pistol would be nice, especially since most pistols have lame iron sights.

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          • NATESOR

            #35
            Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

            Originally posted by Immunity
            This is not Counterstrike. If you want Counterstrike, boot up STEAM, not Battlefield.
            /agree. CS players need to stay in the cesspool and stop trying to poison other games with their "1337" 1998-era-gameplay brainstorming sessions.

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            • Zefram

              #36
              Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

              Originally posted by d3sc3n7j
              So, what your saying is....that I can play as support and lay down 100 rounds, but since the weapons are not that accurate...I may not kill a guy...but 2 shots with a "High Powered" 9mil and he's dead??
              if you're spraying 100 bullets of a PKM to kill one guy... you're a noob. It's called burst shot.

              Originally posted by Wargimp
              It's also been said that there will be no more general unlocks offered due to system resource consumption. Every unlock requires more RAM use as the weapons have to be highloaded. This is part of the reason that the Demo runs more smoothly on low-end systems than the full game does.
              AND WHAT HE SAID....

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              • Frankie_Ballz

                #37
                Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                Originally posted by Achilles17
                Ugh, people need to realize how rediculously useless a Desert Eagle is in real life. Once you fire it once, you will have to spend at least a second or two bringing the gun back into position. Plus, it is very hard to fire while running - you have to be really strong. It is a gimmicky, hollywood pistol, and that's it. There's a reason that they aren't carried by most soldiers - they just aren't practical, no matter how good they are in Counter-Strike.
                I have fired the D Eagle and a 357 magnum, the eagle definitley is hard to shoot accurately quickly, but not impossible. And it does not take 2 seconds to re-aim if you have two hands on the pistol, maybe one. You do have to be strong to fire it but we are talking about trained sodiers here at peak fitness so if I can hit targets q uicly with it they should be able to also. (Never tried to shoot it while running though :p )

                anyway on the main topic, no, no need for more pistols

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                • SMPR

                  #38
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                  Originally posted by Zefram
                  pistols are pretty darn good now.. 3 or 4 shots and people are dead... 2 in the head and it's good bye....this isn't counterstrike...
                  a standard 9mm round wont stop a person. ive seen videos where the 9mm shells wont penetrate the front windshield of glass, a good 45 unlock would be nice though, maybee with a new rifle too like a complete kit.

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                  • Zefram

                    #39
                    Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                    Originally posted by BFMP|PM|SMPR
                    a standard 9mm round wont stop a person. ive seen videos where the 9mm shells wont penetrate the front windshield of glass, a good 45 unlock would be nice though, maybee with a new rifle too like a complete kit.
                    I'm talking about in game.....

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                    • d3sc3n7j

                      #40
                      Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                      Originally posted by Zefram
                      if you're spraying 100 bullets of a PKM to kill one guy... you're a noob. It's called burst shot.



                      AND WHAT HE SAID....
                      I admit to being a NooB...at least when I started, and thought that the support guy was cool....now, granted I havent used support in a while...However, the 100 shots was an exageration to make a point

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                      • RocketChild
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 3949

                        #41
                        Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                        Originally posted by Wargimp
                        It was confirmed some time back that due to engine limitations, unlocks can not be offered to anything other than your primary weapon. There's simply no code to support full kit customization and because of the way the stats system is set up (which controls unlocks), it's no possible to add it.

                        It's also been said that there will be no more general unlocks offered due to system resource consumption. Every unlock requires more RAM use as the weapons have to be highloaded. This is part of the reason that the Demo runs more smoothly on low-end systems than the full game does.

                        However, the refined BF2142 engine may have surpassed these limits.
                        I know, this is one of those things that disappointed me. Back when BF2 was on the drawing boards (2003-2004), I recall reading that they were building the game so you could completely customize your soldier in that kit. When the game got delayed, there was a big outcry. DiCE put the game out on the market, and I wish they would have gotten all the cool features they had discussed early on. This being one of them. It really would have helped the AT/AA issue. Oh well, I upgraded my machine to play BF better, I even got 2 GB of OCZ for it, so I don't mind them coming out with more unlocks.

                        BTW, where did you read about the memory limitation and no 3rd tier unlocks? I have not seen that discussion and would like to read through it.

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                        • Revoluti0n
                          Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 3032

                          #42
                          Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                          Originally posted by Zefram
                          pistols are pretty darn good now.. 3 or 4 shots and people are dead... 2 in the head and it's good bye....this isn't counterstrike...
                          That is exactly right. If you are looking for CSS, then you are in the wrong spot for sure. The pistols are actually better than any of the ones found in CSS. IF you need a pistol fix, hit up the CSS servers. The will not be adding more weapon unlocks due to some memory issues.

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                          • gungho

                            #43
                            Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                            Originally posted by Endless954
                            I want my Desert Eagle .50 cal pistol. Give it to snipers so they can be more offensive.
                            Being offensive is not what the sniping role is all about. The weapons they have have been selected to keep them out of confrontational encounters. The whole class structure is supposed to be "Paper-Rock-Scissors", give a DE to snipers would just **** it all up.

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                            • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                              #44
                              Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                              I would love to see some pistol just for variety's sake, but with PKM hitting targets 300M away and snipers doing CQB, I don't see specialized pistol's role in this.

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                              • SO_stryker

                                #45
                                Re: We Want Pistols!!!!

                                No, the pistols are very good as they are. They already have pinpoint accuracy.

                                The only "fair" new pistol unlock i can suggest is a downgraded CS:S deagle with a limit on rate of fire and deterioirating accuracy past 1 or 2 shots

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