Why do people turn on claymore FF?

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  • Ghost_Rider72

    #16
    Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

    its really unfair to just run around and set claymores and forget about it, so they try to offset it by making them friendly so there is an inherent risk if you want to just run around and drop claymores

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    • exhilator

      #17
      Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

      Originally posted by Chael
      That is lame.

      If you're trying to get explosives badges, I reccomend 64 karkand with 16 players. It's more than easy to sneak up behind a tank and c4 it when tank wars is going on. That's how I got my expert.
      Do you know of any such servers?

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      • JonnyMacFred102
        Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 1995

        #18
        Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

        Most of them have the name "big points" or "high points," so look for that by typing

        %xxxxx

        where xxxx is the part of the server name you want to search for.

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        • motorboatJones

          #19
          Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

          Originally posted by Ghost_Rider72
          its really unfair to just run around and set claymores and forget about it, so they try to offset it by making them friendly so there is an inherent risk if you want to just run around and drop claymores
          They should do the same with AT mines then. It's the same thing only you get more AT mines than clays.

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          • 18Zulukiller
            Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 1107

            #20
            Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

            Originally posted by motorboatJones
            They should do the same with AT mines then. It's the same thing only you get more AT mines than clays.
            As it stands claymores are being abused IMO same way c4 was when you could chuck it. Im forever seeing snipers just running around with nothing but a claymore as soon as they get near someone they spam the clay on the floor and run and get the cheap kill. Like someone else said in this thread it would be great if you could turn FF of on mines and on for claymores but as it stands you can only have it one way.

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            • The_Misfit

              #21
              Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

              agreed, fully... Between claymore spam and grenade spam I wonder how many of these 'fighters' actually engage in real combat. I've seen people go for most of a round either tossing nades or claymores....weak.

              Too bad FF mines is lumped into this. Mines = off, Claymores = on, would be a perfect situation. High time snipers toss out their 2 claymores and have repurcussions instead of dropping them and running 500m away...

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              • Myschief

                #22
                Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                I like the claymore FF. It might make people think about where they put their claymores instead of putting them anywhere and everywhere.

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                • Rambo-82(NOR)

                  #23
                  Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                  by having the FF on, u respect ur claymores more.. U get blowed up and teamkills with it in the beginning,but then you learn... its more realistic... but some servers can have it off for the fun ...

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                  • =IMO=THJones

                    #24
                    Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                    myself i pefer the way mines and clays were before any patches..ff as on and they were destructible...
                    ok check my stats i got a lot of tk's in the beginning with my mines and clays untill i learned how to place them strategicaly. Mines i would put beside the road not in the middle then i would stay there near by ready to set them off with a grenade to kill the enemy. worked everytime unless arty cleared them first.
                    clays i would only put where snipers go and this cut down my tks dramatically

                    now its not much fun to use them..but i do..and on a side not i just turned ff on on my server te he come and visit and try ur luck with ff on
                    =IMO= Memorial BattlegroundsIP: 66.90.73.193:16567 [Play]

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                    • Paas

                      #25
                      Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                      Originally posted by motorboatJones
                      This is the problem with the badges and awards. It forces people to do things outside of the norm in order to get the badges.
                      It doesn't force you to do anything. You chose to spend your time running in cirlces playing the game outside of the "Norm" for a digital represenation of a award.

                      I would say it's nothing you can cash in on, but Colony has proved me wrong on that. Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is, it's "YOUR" doing that forms your playstyle. It has nothing to do with badges, rankings, etc. etc. Now, I will admit that they do attract the average "Joe Schmoe". Yet, it's up to you to be one of those "Joe Schmoes" or not.

                      I would really like to know what percentage of people have used clays to get their basic ex. badge. I bet it's fairly high. I didn't bother for 9 months, and when I decided to try I used the method most people on here and other forums have suggested.
                      I'm sure a failry large percentage. About 85% of this community plays this game for rankings. Which falls in line with "playing for fun". They find fun in thowing around trivial statistics in a massive E-Peen display of power. So, I'm sure the "by any means, even rampant C4 placement..." mindset is the norm for the most part.

                      As for your original questions. Because some people don't like the idea of a sniper having a "free kill" weapon that's indestructable and unbalancedable. Hell, claymores are even hard to destroy than Jets. Know why? Because you cannot destroy them. That's why.

                      {WP}Paas

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                      • mr12es

                        #26
                        Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                        im all for the ff on calymores as ive had enuff on clays spammin on warlord/karkand however...im always tired of the noob who alwyas, even with the big enuff red cross, walks straigt into ur obvious yet hidden trap thus giving you -4 points and a punish immediately..they almost do it for fun!

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                        • Paas

                          #27
                          Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                          Originally posted by mr12es
                          im all for the ff on calymores as ive had enuff on clays spammin on warlord/karkand however...im always tired of the noob who alwyas, even with the big enuff red cross, walks straigt into ur obvious yet hidden trap thus giving you -4 points and a punish immediately..they almost do it for fun!
                          As a sniper, you should be at a pretty considerable distance and using claymores to cover your flanks.

                          As long as you're not placing them within' the confines of thick combat, you shouldn't have any issues with TK's. I think the problem is that snipers wanted the Job of Spec-Ops, they wanted to set traps thus making claymores offensive.
                          Claymores are supposed to be defensive in BF2 though, so you see where things can begin to clash.

                          {WP}Paas

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                          • evilzucchini

                            #28
                            Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                            I know a lot of people are annoyed by the way claymores are used with FF off for them and that is why they leave it on.

                            Just read this forum, there are plenty of posts complaining about claymores. It is obvious why some people would prefer to have them off.

                            Truthfully, even though they suck because people will use them as an offensive weapon, they are absolutely useless before hand because no matter where you put it, you were 90% more likely to kill a dumbass teammate than a enemy.

                            Originally posted by {WP}Paas
                            As long as you're not placing them within' the confines of thick combat, you shouldn't have any issues with TK's.
                            Are you sure about that? I used to watch teammates climb latters and die with a claymore at the top.

                            When I played sniper, I would cover the ladders that could be used to climb and knife me. Not once did one of those claymores kill an enemy. It was ALWAYS a friendly.

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                            • DaSniper079

                              #29
                              Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                              They have it turned on so that skilled players will be the ones doing the killing. Takes no skill to drop claymores and get 5+ kills. I got my basic explosives badge with C4. Claymores are the single most annoying way of betting killed. Youre walking along, youre walking along, you turn a corner and BOOOM! You didnt even have a chance to do anything.

                              IMHO, claymores should have a 2 second delay before exploding. This would actually makes using claymores a skill....instead of putting them at each corner, you would have to hide them so the enemy doesnt see it, and if the enemy stays there for more then 2 seconds, theyre dead.

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                              • JinxTH

                                #30
                                Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

                                i can understand why FF is turned on, was playing on karkand the other night as sniper and was spamming clays to get my explosive awards, which i got. then i ended up getting veterant sniper as well. only 2 kills weren't from claymore, they were with pistol.

                                there were about 2-3 other snipers using clays to defend the hotel as well, so yeah i can see why FF is turned on as it must get annoying getting blown up by a claymore everytime you step round a corner.

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