Why do people turn on claymore FF?

[motorboatJones]

I have been trying to get my basic explosives badge for a few days now. I figured playing a 64 player karkand with only 30 or so players and dropping clays would be the best way. With only 30 or so players the round lasts longer which gives you a better chance of getting those 13 kills.


What I have noticed when looking through the karkand servers is that a lot of these servers have claymore friendly fire turned on. There's really only one reason for that, the server admins hate clays, or they hate the sniper class. They think by turning on friendly fire that it will stop or limit people from using them. I know I won't use them on those servers because 1) I don't want to run into any myself, and 2) I don't want the teamkills.

I don't know why they hate clays. To me armor ruins karkand far more than clays. Hand grenades are even more prevelant but I think that's more acceptable than some lamer sitting in a tank raping spawn points and racking up 100 points.

Anyway, there's no other reason that I can think of for clay ff to be on. I personally don't like it but that's just me.

[LoganX]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

There's really only one reason for that, the server admins hate clays, or they hate the sniper class.

What a selfish statement.
FF is turned off for Mines and Clays because people are tired of getting TK's all the time.
You said it your self.

...armor ruins karkand far more than clays.

Armor doesn't ruim Karkand...Your dislike for Armor ruins your Karkand experience.
The Armor is fine on Karkand as long as people stop being SpecOps/Medic/Assault point Whores and spawn in as AT once in a while.

[imported_Chael]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

That is lame.

If you're trying to get explosives badges, I reccomend 64 karkand with 16 players. It's more than easy to sneak up behind a tank and c4 it when tank wars is going on. That's how I got my expert.

[troybob]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

maybe you should just adjust your playing and simply be smarter about putting down claymores and play the game as it was meant to be played?

[framed.ca]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

They do it cause its a server side option and they can :P. Rent a server and you can tweak it however you want.

As a "sniper", I don't have any problem with FF on with my clays, cause I use them as defence. Frankly if you know that FF is on, And see a big skull at the top of a ladder etc, you should know better.

As far as the explosives badge goes, i'd say going engineer at round start is a good way to grab a few easy kills, then just Jihad jeep your way to freedom.

[Teaves]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

The reason that servers turn ON ff for claymores is the reason you have described in your post: people use them offensively to get the explosive award.

Claymores are meant as a SELF DEFENSE weapon for snipers while hiding out and actually sniping, not to rush into the front line, spam some, and run away for cheap kills

I suspect that if there was a way to seperate mines and claymores FF settings a lot more servers would turn FF ON for claymores and FF OF for mines, as city maps have got a bit silly recently with offensive snipers.

[JonnyMacFred102]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

Sicne the patch i have not been on a server with FF on for mines. I rarely ever get tks for claymores.

[RocketChild]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

What a selfish statement.

The Armor is fine on Karkand as long as people stop being SpecOps/Medic/Assault point Whores and spawn in as AT once in a while.

Are are you saying tattletail? People cant have fun? WTF is assault doing in your list? That is the basic infantry man.

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

maybe you should just adjust your playing and simply be smarter about putting down claymores and play the game as it was meant to be played?

that would require too much thinking, thus ruining the "karkand" experience.

[Pengunio]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

im sniper all the time and Claymores at the best weapon you have on that map. I have been in a few servers with ff turn on and i was ****ed.
But then i got into a server with FF truned off and EVERYONE was sniper. You couldent take 5 steps with out blowing up. You had snipers rushing spawn points and 5 pople standing in the same spawn spot because if they moved they were dead. And the Armor whores loved it because a sniper cant kill a tank. It was the gayest round ever!

[motorboatJones]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

What a selfish statement.
FF is turned off for Mines and Clays because people are tired of getting TK's all the time.

I said FF was turned on. That means clays can teamkill. That's the opposite of the default which is off.

Armor doesn't ruim Karkand...Your dislike for Armor ruins your Karkand experience.
The Armor is fine on Karkand as long as people stop being SpecOps/Medic/Assault point Whores and spawn in as AT once in a while.

People don't play SO and Assault for points on Karkand. People play medic and supply on Karkand for points because of heal/revive/ammo points. But the real point whores on Karkand are the tank and apc lames who hide in their armor and rape people on foot. Every round the guys with the most points are the tank and apc lames.

The reason I don't like tanks and apcs on karkand is because it's a close quarters street map. There's nothing that can really match tanks on Karkand. It takes three AT rockets to take out a fresh tank. Even the eryx can't take out a tank with one shot. If you're lucky you can sneak up on one with c4 or mines but what I have found is that the tank and apc guys ride around in twos and cover for each other to protect against that. They also know exactly where the spawn points are and often times rape you from behind. Mines are quite visable to them so it's unlikey they will run over them leaving the game imbalanced in their favor.

If you want to argue that, fine. It would suggest to me that maybe you like the tanks a bit much for the obvious reasons.

If you have any suggestions as to how to get the basic ex. badge other than dropping clays then I'm all ears.

maybe you should just adjust your playing and simply be smarter about putting down claymores and play the game as it was meant to be played?

THE MESSAGE WAS ABOUT SERVER ADMINS TURNING ON FRIENDLY FIRE! I will get my badge in time. It's not like the lame pistol badge that you can get in 5 mins. I takes a bit of patience.

BTW, you have no idea what my tactics are so don't even start.

[Metal_Storm]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

I would think that having ff off is against EA's rules?

[motorboatJones]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

The reason that servers turn ON ff for claymores is the reason you have described in your post: people use them offensively to get the explosive award.

This is the problem with the badges and awards. It forces people to do things outside of the norm in order to get the badges.

I would really like to know what percentage of people have used clays to get their basic ex. badge. I bet it's fairly high. I didn't bother for 9 months, and when I decided to try I used the method most people on here and other forums have suggested.

[JonnyMacFred102]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

This is the problem with the badges and awards. It forces people to do things outside of the norm in order to get the badges.

I would really like to know what percentage of people have used clays to get their basic ex. badge. I bet it's fairly high. I didn't bother for 9 months, and when I decided to try I used the method most people on here and other forums have suggested.

I got mine with clays a few days after the new patch, on a 64 map size, 16 player karkand server.

[[2bit]Modmaven]

Re: Why do people turn on claymore FF?

Its not against EA's rules. It is up to the server admins what they want to do.

If you have Special Forces, grab one of the flags in the palace on warlord. Then lay one clay as defense, then run with another in your hand, to be tossed at the first sign of enemies. This of course is pretty lame but it does work. FF off of course.