Bought a CyborgEvo and I still suck

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: Bought a CyborgEvo and I still suck

Check your sensitivity for pitch/roll in your settings for planes. I have mine all they way up at 10, and it works great. I left my chopper pitch/roll settings to something low like 1.5, since they are easier to control that way....

I have it custom modded to 12/25/25 for plane, and 35/35/35 for helicopters. works great.

[willizm]

Re: Bought a CyborgEvo and I still suck

a twist joystick is a must set the twists for pitchs turns for turning, using a combo or turn and twist to make movements will make you a better pilot for both helo and jet. helo throttle is important throttling down and up during manuvers will improve them, jets i just fly fast as i can using after burners to escape missles and ither planes...you might want to join a team/ clan ours has a top gun school to teach members how to fly well and a lot of other teams/ clans do to...best of luck

I have the twist setup right. Thats no problem. I guess more of my problem is when I roll left and right. I'll roll left and as soon as I want to fly straight again I roll right to counter-act the roll. This is when i get in trouble. I go flying all over the place. It makes me as sick as a kid with motion sickness on a swingset. Is there a better way to counter-act the roll.

[LoganX]

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I'm going to ask the OP a simple question first.
Do you have any understanding of how a helicopter moves?
How it handles? How it's maneuvered?

The reason I'm asking it this way is it seems to me there is possibly a lack of understanding in this area.
I've seen many times that people think all you have to do is move the stick in the direction you want to go and hold it there to continue moving. (Like normal WSAD).
They don't realize that (at least in BF2) you have to counter your movement so you don't 'over steer'.

For those of us who are experienced:
If you move the JS to the left and hold it, you will just do a barrel roll.
In order to 'slide' side ways you move the JS in the direction you want but then have to back off some to "even out" the movement. You will slide sideways but not roll completely.

It's kinda difficult to convey in writing but with practice you will find 'the touch'.

...I guess more of my problem is when I roll left and right. I'll roll left and as soon as I want to fly straight again I roll right to counter-act the roll. This is when i get in trouble. I go flying all over the place. It makes me as sick as a kid with motion sickness on a swingset. Is there a better way to counter-act the roll.

Plain and simple...you are over compensating for the roll.
It's just inexperience.
As I said above, with practice you will learn how to 'feel' the movement and counter correctly.

[StalkerZERO]

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Any advice you can give me on how to learn how to fly choppers and jets using a stick. I have it properly set up, but I just can't get down rolling left and right properly. I'm playing on a local server game with myself as I don't want to **** people off. It seems that I'm not getting the hang of this thing. I try to shoot targets, but just fly out of control. Any advice(general flying, bombing runs for jets,etc) you vets have on learning to fly with a joystick?

Thanks
-Will

LOL! I dun need no stinkin joystick! Heck! I fly using an old cirque touchpad! haha! I can fly rings around the average flightnoob too!

...........although I do have the weakness of not being able to pull out of steep dives in time. :cry:

[LoganX]

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..although I do have the weakness of not being able to pull out of steep dives in time. :cry:

Joystick doesn't save you from that. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Happens to me alot as well.

[signa]

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you might want to check out the helicopter tutorial vids, they may have some tips, ive only watched the 3rd one.

http://files.bf2s.com/search.php?query=helicopter

[Riggz]

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practice, practice, practice...

Yes. Practice. I remember switching from keyboard/mouse to joystick back in Vietnam. At first I sucked..horrible but with enough practice u get skillz.

[LaGrenouille]

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when I got mine I practiced for hours in DC, just trying to complete one lap around El Alamein and landing without crashing (in a chopper).
It's very frustrating when you have to go back to square one but it really paid off

[StalkerZERO]

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Joystick doesn't save you from that. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Happens to me alot as well.

Geez!!
Ya still can't pull out of a dive even if you scream like a girl and jam the stick back in total desperation til it almost breaks?

[gungho]

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Dunno if your having the same probs I had with my CyborgEvo, but it kept shooting my plane off in all directions. Its a bug in the Cyborg driver, the joystick axis dont initialise properly. Before you start BF2, open "Game Controllers" on the Control Panel, select the "Cyborg Evo" controller & click "Properties". Now cycle ALL the axis. That means pushing the stick all the way round in a circle, twisting the rudder left & right, and also runing the throttle all the way up & down. Release the stick and now check the axis are properly centered, the X&Y should centered & the rudder in the middle.

Sounds stupid, but it took me a while to work out that I was having a hard time controlling planes because the stick wasn't doing what I wanted.

Also, pop over to http://www.saitek.com/uk/down/drivers.htm & make sure you have the latest (15/03/06) drivers.

[LoganX]

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Geez!!
Ya still can't pull out of a dive even if you scream like a girl and jam the stick back in total desperation til it almost breaks?

LOL...Not always. Usually it just makes my wife run down in a huff thinking I was really hurt or something :laugh:

[Death Merchant]

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dont see all your problems mine is fine

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: Bought a CyborgEvo and I still suck

cannot say it LOUD enough
NO JOYSTICK for helo
yes - maybe some guys can do it
but it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than mouse and KB
JETS = JOYSTICK
and read all the guides here
many are good

[Nar1117]

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Well you pull back to pitch up, push forward to pitch down, push left to bank left, and push right to bank right. Twist left to yaw left, twist right to yaw right.
So if you know these 6 things, use deductive logic to learn how to fly a jet. Bank right and pull back to make a right turn, pull back to go up, and use your yaw (rudder) to make sharper/more fluid movements. With heilos, its all about the throttle and your pitch. Your blades pull you up, through the center of the craft, so if you point them forward by pitching down, you will get pulled forward, similar to a prop plane.

And as someone said, be gentle. If you yank the stick to the left, then try to correct by yanking to the right, while jamming the throttle up and down, youre screwed. Just think about going where you want to go... and youll get there. If you think about how youre gonna do it, ('ok so im gonna bak left, then pull back') then you might as well kill yourself.