You guys think DC will take over again?

[IntensivCareBear]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

2142 will divert all the attention to it, so the mainstream "halo 2 and counterstrike" type players will basically play that instead.

as a result, the desert combat, bf1942 guys like me will play mods like DCON, bfpirates, fh2 and any star wars ones, not caring that theyre not ranked.

if bfpirates for 1942 was still widely played i would take it anyway. i just want it with better graphics and squad features, destructible ships and the like.

I've got no idea whether the mod will be good or not but i do know EA/Dice are pretty much stamping on all the modders. Its been like 10 months or something and still no modding tools, all they get is some ****ty half assed level designer. An all because EA/Dice dont want professional mods to be made so that everyone will buy their BF2142 'mod'.

Support your modding community!

none of the many mods i watch have said this... im quite sure its just anti EA bashing.

frankly, its the mods that are the holdup themselves, although FH2 and battlefield40k post screens basically every day or week.

bfpirates seems to be taking damn near forever, and the guys who made it actually worked at DICE making BF2, so they have "official" support.

i see plenty of professional quality mods.

i agree that 2142 looks pathetic next to battlefield40k though.

[Jesse]

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BF2 isnt actually as easy as you make it sound.

If you want realism, try "Lock On". That game is excessively difficult.

Its been said plenty of times, and I'll repeat it here to help it sink in: Battlefield 2 is an arcade game.

Frankly, if DCON doesn't come out soon, it won't live past its teething. Bf2142 is coming and the mods must be feeling the pressure im sure.

Wow, and Desert Combat was an ARCADE game too. What a coincidence. I'm by no means advocating a realistic game here, you're reading your own opinions into what I'm trying to say.

However, in Desert Combat, I didn't have an all-seeing-eye commander with pseudo-hack toys for one lucky moron who skips school/work to get more points than everyone else to use and ruin the chance for a tactical game since they can find anyone and repair their assets with a magical crate from the heavens. I also didn't have ordinance that made it even easier to kill things because they have the ability to lock onto objects. Where's the arcade in that? There's no aiming, there's no thinking of what your opponent might do, there's just point, click, +2 points.

And guns? They're laughable, you can't hit a soldier at 50m with most guns with amount of certainty, even after going prone, training your sites on a stationary target for about 5 seconds, and then firing. Again, dumbed down and the person being shot at gets to run away with the whole "OMG it's just like the movies they shot at me and I ran and lived!" thing.

Vehicles warn you when you're locked onto, which basically says "Even though you're not paying ONE BIT attention to what's going on around you, save for that spawn point you're trying to camp, someone is pointing a not-so-nice weapon at you!" Again, dumbed down for the masses so you don't even have to pay attention to where people might be or if they're shooting at you. You just have to wait on that buzzing sound and hit the forward or reverse button and head for the nearest corner.

What about helicopters? Let's see, a platform with dumbed down controls that hovers itself, even with no one remotely paying attention to the controls, and a gunner who can point and click his way to a camp fest. It's a morons dream come true. Not only can you fly them without practice, you can use the weaponry without it too! And since the helicopter spins up and goes straight for the stratosphere when you don't have a pilot, you don't even have to wait for a gunner! Why bother, you're not going to hit the ground anytime soon if you hop in the gunners seat.

[CATIA]

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Graphics, sound, squad option (NOT commander) and sticky C4 are the ONLY good things about BF2, if you take them out then the game is worthless compared to DC. in DC you have 3:1 vehicles and maps, plus the game is well balanced. It actually took skills to play DC especially if you wanted to be a pilot. best of all when pubbing you will never see anybody crying about tk punish or stats. i find myself babysitting if i'm the server admin, everybody is crying because some moron tked a b-hawk gunner so he can get his badge, or when you tk punish a dude he start crying becaue you're ruining his stats WAAA.
also, in DC the new maps/vehicles and weapons were for FREE and servers are not controled by EA, in BF2 they're selling maps for 10-30$US. to add insult they're all buggy as hell. don't get me wrong when DC came out it had a lot of buggs and balance issues, but at least the DC boys fixed them, we've been playing with the same annoying bugs in BF2 for months now and they're still can't find the fix, how sad.

IMO i'd rather be a beta tester for a FREE game than beta test a 50$ game, i honestly believe EA rushed bf2 and used us as beta testers, i've never seen a game with that many MAJOR bugs as bf2. people are really getting sick of EA and BF2 B.S hence why more than half of bf2 players are looking forward to the mods. the MODs will kill bf2 unless EA/DICE whome ever get their acts together and fix their crappy product.

[-=TxG=-Phoenix]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

Depends on the mod!

[BryanG]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

DC is to BF2 as an Alienware laptop is to a Fisher Price My First Computer. BF2 is geared toward people who suck at video games, quite honestly. ANY mod that can offer good gameplay, something where your guns don't act like an electron in the magnetic field of a superconducting magnet, as well as devices that aren't programmed to allow a 5 year old to be able to pick them up and use them without any practice what so ever, will have a decent community.

^Idiot. I've never seen any bullets moving in a circular trajectory.

[WAAASSSUUUPP]

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I don't think it will take over, but it will be really popular. What does USI stand for?

[imported_Ownerofall]

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I would disagree, once someone has had a taste of a mod that has man y more vehicles and maps, I think people will stop caring as much about stats as they might care now. Games were really popular without stats, and they will continue to be after BF2.
One thing to keep in mind, when you say DC people think Desert Combat. The BF2 mod is Desert Conflict or DCON. It is not made by the same people, and it will be different than the original DC. I want to play DCON and USI. I think these will be 2 of the strongest mods to come.
/$.02

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[Jesse]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

^Idiot. I've never seen any bullets moving in a circular trajectory.

That's because they hit something first. Nice to see someone here that knows the physics though. =P But I never said the magnetic field was the same throughout the map. (otherwise the bullets would be predictable :p) I know all to much about the relation of the magnetic field direction, the velocity of the particle and it's charge, and the direction the force would be. The whole 3rd section of Physics II has been nothing but magnetism. If only the BF2 engine could deal with electricity, perhaps we could create a generator with over 100% efficiency. (ObjectTemplate.drag -1 (yeah yeah, it's against the laws of physics, but so is about everything else in the game engine. :-P))

Honestly though, I HAVE seen the AA missiles go in a spiral until their time to live runs out though. Not sure if since they "fixed" the "fixed" missiles in the last hotfix if you still can though. It was possible right after 1.2 though. Take the Linebacker, fire the missiles through the leaves in a tree

[|^|wulf]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

This whole discussion is flawed for two reasons:

1. DC did not "pwn" BF1942.
2. BF2 has been out for nearly a year and still no major mods completed. At this rate, by the time any mods are release, who will be around to care? Also, the mods will suffer the same bugs that BF2 has, since they are inherent to the engine.

[CATIA]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

This whole discussion is flawed for two reasons:

1. DC did not "pwn" BF1942.

well, that's your opinion. if you ask any DCer out there they will disagree with you, again just opinions.

2. BF2 has been out for nearly a year and still no major mods completed. At this rate, by the time any mods are release, who will be around to care? Also, the mods will suffer the same bugs that BF2 has, since they are inherent to the engine.

FYI NAW has been released though i don't consider it a MOD, it's bf2 with new skin, but i like the new maps they made. the other major MODs (DCon, USI, POE and FH) should be out by this summer (keep your fingerscrossed lol). also, DC came out about a year after bf42 was out, and didn't take off until probably 6months of its release due to annoying bugs. what kept DC fresh for me is the fact they took the time to add new maps, vehicles and weapons (ALL FOR FREE) in each patch while at the same time improving game play.

[T.Nova]

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I don't think any mod is going to "pwn" Battlfield 2. As it is, BF2's modding community consists of the best mods from BF1942 and BFV. As it is for me, I've been strictly playing PRMM (Project Reality's Mini Mod) for the past few months or so. Vanilla BF2 gameplay feels like a CS knock off provided with some tanks and some planes.

[Jake]

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Just gimme FH2 and I'll be happy!

[military1]

Re: You guys think DC will take over again?

nope

[AndEhBus]

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I was a bf1942 fanatic -- played loads of Desert Combat -- I got a lot of my friends involved and it was great.

I prided myself in my skills as a pilot it took a lot of work to master but that's what made the game so gratifying -- That is what set bf1942 apart from all the other games -- the difficulty and realism in the controls.

When BF2 came out I was very excited until I sat in a chopper I was heart-broken the controls were dumb-down so badly it took a lot of the maneuverability out of the vehicle -- I have not purchased the game and will not purchase the game -- as a result only a couple of my friends ended up buying bf2 and I gave them a hard time telling them it's for noobz...

I just don't see the point in making a game with a level of difficulty that requires a certain level of proficiency – then having it be a huge success as is -- then turning around and making a sequel that dumbs the game down so it requires less skill... I hope whoever made that call dies in a fire...

[IVfluids]

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Wow, looks like someone is either bored and felt like digging up old posts or is looking to jack up his post count by using the same reply in four threads lol