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  • bisley

    #16
    Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

    Originally posted by Gamerguy X
    Ok, first it isnt a laptop - it is a desktop. But second, I will take your advise and I will look into self-building. What would be a good resource. I will search google, but if you have any resources, please tell me.
    Your first post stated " Laptop "

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    • Gamerguy X

      #17
      Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

      my OLD computer is a laptop, I want to get a desktop now

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      • Gamerguy X

        #18
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        So if I get all of that, it will all work together fine? Becuase that looks like an awesome deal, except that a monitor 1ill run me 200 and a mouse and keyboard around 50....plus 100....that will hit higher than the dell. Is there anyway I could get what I am getting with the dell (customized of course), but at a cheaper price and without it being a crappy dell....im jus tlooking at this newegg thing at is confusing as hell

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        • LoD

          #19
          Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

          That is the speed of the hypertransport link, ie the A64's FSB.

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          • Gamerguy X

            #20
            Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

            ��������������Ok, now I am presented with a 2 options. I have taken dell out of the picture.

            I am currently looking at:

            - Custom PC
            - Alienware PC

            The problem is I have no clue how to make a custom PC, nor do I know a good deal, etc. If Anyone where could put give help me make on in my budget (1600 USD), I would appreciate it - but that is a lot of work and I am not really expecting it.

            My second choice, and the one I am leaning two more is the alienware.
            These are the specs and price, can you guys give me pointers on what I should upgrade/downgrade to get the best price and the also have the best BF2 playing experience.

            Thanks, and here are the specs and the questions I have:



            Model: Auroraâ„¢ 5500

            I am guessing this is the most economical model. Tell me if I should change it.

            Processor: AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 3500+ with HyperTransport Technology

            The next upgrade is "AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 3800+ with HyperTransport Technology"...it would cost an extra 100 dollars. Is it worth it?

            OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2*
            Should I spend 100 extra USD's to get Pro?

            Cooling System: Alienware® AlienIceâ„¢ 2.0 Video Cooling**
            Ok, I am cosindering upgrading this, becuase it is important, but what should I do.

            The "Alienware® Acoustic Dampening" is 57 Dollars extra, and I will probably get it

            Mother Board: Alienware® nForceâ„¢4 SLIâ„¢ Chipset Motherboard PCI Express*
            Cnat change this...

            Graphics Chip: 256MB PCI-Express x16 ATI RADEONâ„¢ X1800 XL**
            This is the best choice I can afford.

            Video optemizer: AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimizer
            This only cost an extra 30 dollars, but is it worth it at all?

            RAM: 2GB Low-Latency Dual Channel DDR PC-3200 at 333MHz - 4 x 512MB*
            I want two gigs, and this is the only 2 gig choice.

            Hard Drive: 80GB Serial ATA 1.5Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/8MB Cache*
            I am happy with this...I have a 160gig external HD if I really need it.

            CD Drive: 16x DVD / 52x36x52x CD-RW Drive **
            It doesnt burn DVD's, but I dont care.

            Sound Card: Integrated High-Performance 7.1 Surround Sound with S/PDIF and Coaxial Digital Outputs*
            Im happy with that. Sound isnt a huge issue.

            Speakers: Creative I-Trigue® 2200 Speakers*
            As long as these are OK, then I dont mind.

            Monitor: 15" 25ms LCD - Silver/Black
            It can always get upgraded later, right?

            Price....2097 USD....crap...
            That is probably why I would custom build, just for the fact that it is SO much cheaper...

            And one last thing, this is important. Are alienwares built well? Should I invest a LOT in warranty. This is how I use my computer: it sits on my desk, turned on usual all day. I have all the power settings on max, but I usualy have it stand by after an hour. The computer wont move much, if at all. So, do you recomend getting over a 1 year warranty? And should I get the alien autotopsy support which contacts alienware as soon as a problem occurs? That feature seems cool, but it is an extra 50 USD...


            So ya, some help...and if you want to help me set up a good custom system via email or something like that, that would be awesome, just let me know.

            Other wise, give me your best opinions and I appreciate the help very much.


            EDIT: Im looking around the forums...I realy want to build a custom PC.....I realy do now, it is just so much cheaper. If anyone wants to help, email me please: sandrob57@gmail.com. I wont need too much help, but I want to make sure everything works out and I dont get anything

            1) That conflicts
            2) That is un-necessary
            3) That is a rip-off

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            • redearedslider

              #21
              Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

              Originally posted by Sir. MatDef
              lol nice and painful

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              • LoD

                #22
                Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                Alienware offers horrible value for your money, with your budget you cannot afford an alienware.

                Also do you need a monitor? If you do you will want a 17-19 inch with 12ms response or lower. (also check reviews and get a well established brand)

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                • Gamerguy X

                  #23
                  Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                  Ya, I am going to custom build. Screw the alienware. Anyone wanna help?

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                  • Blackhearted

                    #24
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                    alienware = overhyped, overpriced bull$#!@
                    its almost as bad as the f4tal1ty garbage. unless you have money to burn, price:performance should be your main consideration.

                    for gaming, hardware from the 'enthusiast' tier is usually the best compromise. the budget tier usually doesnt offer enough power and is for those people for whom price is the only consideration.
                    dont let yourself be suckered in to buying a bleeding-edge processor or vid card - they are *never* near worth it in terms of price:performance.

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                    • knghtwhosaysni

                      #25
                      Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                      ok, since it seems that you need a completely new computer, I would suggest going with what I posted earlier, except a lesser processor and you could drop the X-Fi soundcard if you wanted to. An AMD socket 939 3500+ ought to do very nicely and can overclock well. There are tutorials for that all over the internet :). The 3500 should be about $200 dollars, so that's $250 you can spend on mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
                      For my mouse, I use a Logitech MX518, which is really comfortable, has good precision, and has on-the-fly dpi adjustments (change the sensitivity of the mouse by pressing a button), which really helps out in BF2.
                      For my keyboard, I just use a generic Microsoft one... really the only thing I cared about when I got my keyboard was that it was fairly quiet and had volume control.
                      As for a monitor... meh can someone else make some reccomendations? I know Viewsonic and Dell are good brands for monitors, but I don't really know of any others.
                      Oh, and yoiu will need to get an operating system... left that out of my list. Windows XP home should do you well :)

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                      • knghtwhosaysni

                        #26
                        Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                        CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
                        1 NEC Beige IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3550A - OEM$38.99
                        ATX Computer Cases
                        1 Antec Performance I P180 Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $112.99
                        Internal Hard Drives
                        2 Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $106.00
                        Monitors - LCD
                        1 SAMSUNG 913V-Black 19" 12ms LCD Monitor - Retail $266.00
                        AMD-compatible Motherboards
                        1 DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $186.99
                        Video Cards
                        1 eVGA 256-P2-N516 Geforce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $285.00
                        Power Supplies
                        1 Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply - Retail $89.99
                        Mouse
                        1 Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail $33.89
                        Memory - System
                        1 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model F1-3200PHU2-2GBNS - Retail $150.99
                        Processors
                        1 AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail $213.00
                        Operating Systems
                        Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2 - OEM $87.95
                        Subtotal: $1,571.79
                        Took out the soundcard, changed the processor and memory, and added mouse, keyboard, and a 19" monitor.

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                        • mafia_boy

                          #27
                          Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                          that'll run bf2 easy wiv everything on high! its a good rig.

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                          • Gamerguy X

                            #28
                            Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                            I will look into it and get back to you after I have a final decision. Thank you for your help so far, it is appreciated.

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                            • Gamerguy X

                              #29
                              Re: Before I make a stupid mistake....

                              Alright, I tweaked it around a bit. Its 1600 give or take a few. Alhough I said I would spend up to 1600, it doesnt mean I have the money yet. The less cost is, the quicker I can get it.

                              So the changes I made were downgraded the screen to 17 inch, which is fine with me. But then i noticed...

                              ...I need speakers...do I need a sound card to get speakers, and which cheap but good speakers could you recomend?

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                              • knghtwhosaysni

                                #30
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                                Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail is supposed to be a pretty good and cheap 5.1 setup. No you don't need a sound card to use speakers; your motherboard comes with its own "onboard" sound. However, this uses some processing power from the CPU and doesn't sound quite as good as a PCI soundcard would.
                                And I honestly don't know if this Realtek ALC850 will support 5.1 in games. It does support EAX 1.0 and 2.0, but it would be nice if someone could confirm that 5.1 will work in games. I know my onboard sound didn't, but my onboard sound is different and doesn't support EAX at all.

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