X1800XT 512MB is out

**Flanker** · 11-07-2005, 09:13 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Dude, thats an XtremeSystems guy. They're known for having...guess what...Extreme Systems...

No way a regular Joe is gonna get more than 100MHz outta the Core of that card. If you just look at one card, it isn't going to tell about all the other cards too. What happened to the ridiculous voltage and amazing heat of the rest of the 99% of X1800s?

**alwo** · 11-07-2005, 09:27 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by Blak_Pheonix_MB

Yea, this would have been great news if it had come 6 months earlier... lol. :)

so true... i would have been a potential buyer if it was released then... but ati didnt have anything that could go against the 7800gtx at the time so it looks like ati lost a customer.

**[DC]M4guy624** · 11-07-2005, 10:17 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by Sir. MatDef

Just wait till the 7800gtx 512mg comes out, that thing is gonna smoke a xl or xt, and sli will still own crossfire.

Its a little early to say SLI will "still" own crossfire considering we haven't seen a crossfire X1800 system

**abtomat74** · 11-07-2005, 11:22 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by TVR_Fan

No need for 512MB until another 2 years, and not needed also until Pixel Shader 4.0 is out.

I said the same thing about 2 gigs of system ram...then BF2 came out :)
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CrossFire blows feral mountain goats. HardOcp just did an article saying CrossFire has a major drawback in that you are FORCED to a refresh rate of 60hz when using resolutions of 1600x1200 or greater.

You read correctly, 60hz max, which we all know would be pointless! As that resolution and higher is the only reason to have SLI/CrossFire(not that anyone should anyway).

**[DC]M4guy624** · 11-07-2005, 11:32 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by abtomat74

I said the same thing about 2 gigs of system ram...then BF2 came out :)
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CrossFire blows feral mountain goats. HardOcp just did an article saying CrossFire has a major drawback in that you are FORCED to a refresh rate of 60hz when using resolutions of 1600x1200 or greater.

You read correctly, 60hz max, which we all know would be pointless! As that resolution and higher is the only reason to have SLI/CrossFire(not that anyone should anyway).

the 60 MHZ max is with the X8XX series cards, the 60 MHZ cap will not be there with the X1K cards

**Spart1337** · 11-08-2005, 03:36 AM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by Flanker

Only thing that matters AT ALL; Real-world performance.

If thats true then 2 x850s(XT) running in crossfire mode damn near beat 2 7800s(GTX)... want benchies for Doom 3, Half-Life 2, UT:2k4, and Far Cry? See the thing is an x850 is the equivalent top the 6800. Now if 2 of these cards (Which are considered average.) are almost whipping nvidias best consider dual x1800xls in crossfire....

I'll let that sink in for a little while...............................

Done? ok heres a direct quote:

"You can see in the benchmarks that CrossFire will give NVIDIA's SLI a run for its money. However, in applications like 3DMark 2003 and 2005, the scores are impacted by factors other than the actual frames per second. For some reason, the scores do not follow the linear increase in performance that are observed in all of the real world game benchmarks.

When looking at the performance on the various engines, we can see that the rest of the scores are from games doing what they do best: playing."

And all the benchies and info can be found in this single article:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050926/index.html

No I am not a fanboy. I have a 6600GT running in my computer right at this very second. The facts are there.

ALSO: For those who say that the 7800GTX is more powerful than the x1800XT right out the box...

Check these Benchies:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20051006/index.html

**abtomat74** · 11-08-2005, 09:28 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by [DC]M4guy624

the 60 MHZ max is with the X8XX series cards, the 60 MHZ cap will not be there with the X1K cards

That is good to hear. I couldn't believe they made it that way all this time until just the last few days...

**ShadowWarrior18D** · 11-09-2005, 07:17 AM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Sounds like a waste of money IMO

**Flanker** · 11-12-2005, 07:43 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by Spart1337

If thats true then 2 x850s(XT) running in crossfire mode damn near beat 2 7800s(GTX)... want benchies for Doom 3, Half-Life 2, UT:2k4, and Far Cry? See the thing is an x850 is the equivalent top the 6800. Now if 2 of these cards (Which are considered average.) are almost whipping nvidias best consider dual x1800xls in crossfire....

"You can see in the benchmarks that CrossFire will give NVIDIA's SLI a run for its money. However, in applications like 3DMark 2003 and 2005, the scores are impacted by factors other than the actual frames per second. For some reason, the scores do not follow the linear increase in performance that are observed in all of the real world game benchmarks."

No one told you Tom's Hardware Guide was ATi biased? I'll let THAT sink in. As soon as I see ATi + THG, it = no cred.

And look at these.

There no "for some reason" about it for the 3DMark scores. The 7800GTX plain owns the X850XT, crossfire or not.

I believe I just owned you at your own game.

**Eddy01741** · 11-12-2005, 08:21 PM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by Flanker

No one told you Tom's Hardware Guide was ATi biased? I'll let THAT sink in. As soon as I see ATi + THG, it = no cred.

And look at these.

There no "for some reason" about it for the 3DMark scores. The 7800GTX plain owns the X850XT, crossfire or not.

I believe I just owned you at your own game.

Um, far cry and Doom are totally Nvidia dominated games, so you didn't, so we could pick out splinter cell and Half-Life 2 and show you how games are biased. Plus, i dunno what this guy is saying, cause even i, a somewhat ati fan would rather have a GTX than 2xX850XTPE in crossfire. So you won against him, but against a X1800XT in benchmarks not nvidiia biased (as in Direct 3D games) it would even out. Also i have no idea again why again, but X1xxx series are doing realy well in 3dmark05, not that it matters, but just to point out.

**AlphexHunter** · 11-12-2005, 10:11 PM

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Man I would just go with the 2 x 7800gtx 512mb, without iven thinking coz Nvidia has such a better service, quality and all that good stuff + Nvidia has a better reputation then Ati....FOR A FAQ! 2000$ just for 2 cards damn.....

**1dsandtrap** · 11-13-2005, 12:10 AM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

I am getting a new motherboard, but should I get an AGP or an PCI express?

**Sir. MatDef** · 11-13-2005, 12:22 AM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by BooM

I am getting a new motherboard, but should I get an AGP or an PCI express?

PCIe, why would you even consider agp? It's completley dead.

**1dsandtrap** · 11-13-2005, 12:27 AM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

what video card should i get with the pci express, I want it to be pretty equal to the fx5700

I just started hearing about the pci express so i dont know whats going on

**Sir. MatDef** · 11-13-2005, 12:41 AM

Re: X1800XT 512MB is out

Originally posted by BooM

what video card should i get with the pci express, I want it to be pretty equal to the fx5700

I just started hearing about the pci express so i dont know whats going on

Get at least a nvidia 6600 ddr2.

X1800XT 512MB is out

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