building my first pc.

[BPCrusher01]

Re: building my first pc.

i need to find that link to $130 x1950xt....post it? i may go crossfire!

$115 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102034 (256 RAM)

$140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102094 (512 RAM)

$135 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102061 (x1950xPRO with free game)

[TheSpark29]

Re: building my first pc.

$115 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102034 (256 RAM)

$140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102094 (512 RAM)

$135 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102061 (x1950xPRO with free game)

I thought you were confused. Those are 1950GT's.

8600GT<1950GT<8600GTS<X1950Pro<X1950XT<8800GTS

The 8600GTS isn't that bad of a card. That doesn't mean I am recommending one though. There are simply better deals for the money. As for performance, 8600GTS is just under a X1950Pro. And if anyone was considering a 8600GTS, they obviously don't have enough money for a 8800, which is nearly double the price. (Assuming they are somewhat informed) They also won't be gaming at any large resolutions either. 8600GTS/X1950Pro works best at 1280x1024. (Anything larger is XT/8800 territory) So telling someone to get a 8800 instead of a 8600GTS isn't a good idea either. If the 8600GTS fits the budget, how can you double the price and still have a "budget"?

[megawhompertoo]

Re: building my first pc.

x1950: i'm highly discriminating amongst consonants.

gt <-----

not interested

xt <---- yeah. i'm all up in those electrons.

(honey if you're checking up on me, i mean that virtually...you're still my only charged electron)

crap. i really was supposed to stop posting post-ethanol. wth happened?

[solofowaffles]

Re: building my first pc.

x1950: i'm highly discriminating amongst consonants.

gt <-----

not interested

xt <---- yeah. i'm all up in those electrons.

(honey if you're checking up on me, i mean that virtually...you're still my only charged electron)

crap. i really was supposed to stop posting post-ethanol. wth happened?

ah mega you make me laugh sometimes hahah.

[System]

Re: building my first pc.

ok well I had to leave early on my last post and didn't get a chance to talk about the penryn, which someone stated above are not worth waiting for which is not true.

Yes the penryn is a die shrink from 60 to 45 NM which is the most noted change. From this fact alone, it makes this cpu all the better to sit down and wait to buy simply because if you know anything about OCing a cpu, the smaller the die, the lesser the voltage, the lesser the temps, the higher the clock.

Not to mention, the penryn line comes with dual cores that have 6mb cache, not 4. Yes, the quads are 12mb cache.

If you want a budget build, wait for the conroes to become obsolete and then you really get awesome deals. If you want the best thing available, you wait for the penryn.

Now back to the 8600 GT/GTS for TheSpark29.

So telling someone to get a 8800 instead of a 8600GTS isn't a good idea either. If the 8600GTS fits the budget, how can you double the price and still have a "budget"?

I looked at the prices on tigerdirect.ca and the "double" in price difference you claim is false. If anything, a 8600 GTS is highly overpriced as the lowest I saw was $205 and the lowest prices 8800 GTS is only $315. Now lets be fair here and say that of course you want some quality to go with your dollar so you would probably want a mid end 8600 GTS with a higher clock and same goes with the 8800 GTS.

So right away, I'm seeing the prices come out to $205-400+ for a 8600 GTS.

The 8800 GTS starts off at $315-440.

So basically I am confused how you can state that a 8600 GTS is a cost effective budget build when the numbers I'm pulling up here do not add together. Sure you may end up spending an extra $100 tops for a 8800 GTS, but the performance you get from it over a 8600 gts justifys the cost.

[solofowaffles]

Re: building my first pc.

you can grab a 8800gts on newegg for less than 3 hundred...

[System]

Re: building my first pc.

you can grab a 8800gts on newegg for less than 3 hundred...

tigerdirect.CA

There is a difference vs american dollars still, not much though.

[EngkAnt0]

Re: building my first pc.

ok this is the final build that should arrive tommorow.

hdd
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3500630NS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

cpu
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750

mobo
EVGA 122-CK-NF63-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

psu
XCLIO GREATPOWER X14S4P4 650W ATX12V 650W Power Supply - Retail


- Retail

cpu cooler
ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU 120mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan - Retail

memory
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail

case
COOLER MASTER Ammo 533 RC-533-SWN1 Black/ Silver Aluminum+Plastic front bezel; SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

and dvd rom and dvd burner.

nah i been waiting for this build im not gonna wait again just for another products..i think this system will be just fine, for me.

[TheButler208]

Re: building my first pc.

yooouuu said it, 40 fps. 40 FPS!!!!!

[EngkAnt0]

Re: building my first pc.

do u guys think i should get vista premium 32bit or 64bit version?..i was gonna get 64bit but i heard it has alot of driver issues and i wasnt really gonna go use 4 gig ram so i might as well get the 32bit version...i already have vista premium but it was only upgrade version what a shame.

[TheButler208]

Re: building my first pc.

do u guys think i should get vista premium 32bit or 64bit version?..i was gonna get 64bit but i heard it has alot of driver issues and i wasnt really gonna go use 4 gig ram so i might as well get the 32bit version...i already have vista premium but it was only upgrade version what a shame.

well thats a decision you'll have to make on your own. At least with 64BIT you'll be futureproof as far as an operating system goes. But from what I see, right now its not worth the trouble or a slight performance loss...from what I can tell. I don't even want Vista yet.

[TheSpark29]

Re: building my first pc.

Now back to the 8600 GT/GTS for TheSpark29.

I looked at the prices on tigerdirect.ca and the "double" in price difference you claim is false. If anything, a 8600 GTS is highly overpriced as the lowest I saw was $205 and the lowest prices 8800 GTS is only $315. Now lets be fair here and say that of course you want some quality to go with your dollar so you would probably want a mid end 8600 GTS with a higher clock and same goes with the 8800 GTS.

So right away, I'm seeing the prices come out to $205-400+ for a 8600 GTS.

The 8800 GTS starts off at $315-440.

So basically I am confused how you can state that a 8600 GTS is a cost effective budget build when the numbers I'm pulling up here do not add together. Sure you may end up spending an extra $100 tops for a 8800 GTS, but the performance you get from it over a 8600 gts justifys the cost.

Ok, I see. The prices you're referring to are totally different that what I'm using. On Newegg, I the cheapest 8600GTS is $150. The cheapest 8800GTS is $280. So where I am, the 8800GTS is almost twice the price of a 8600. If the cheapest 8600GTS you can find is $200, than I totally agree with you. A terrible terrible deal. How much do 1950XT's cost up there?

[Stormy{CAN}]

Re: building my first pc.

tigerdirect.CA

Unless you really like paying too much, you need to stop looking at TD. This place,

http://www.infonec.ca/site/main.php?module=searchresults&root_menu=12&manufacturers_id=0&manufacturers_id_ajax=0&root_menu_ajax=12&dbsearch_keywords=8600GTS&x=0&y=0

you can get the Asus 8600GTS for $165.00

[System]

Re: building my first pc.

Unless you really like paying too much, you need to stop looking at TD. This place,

http://www.infonec.ca/site/main.php?module=searchresults&root_menu=12&manufacturers_id=0&manufacturers_id_ajax=0&root_menu_ajax=12&dbsearch_keywords=8600GTS&x=0&y=0

you can get the Asus 8600GTS for $165.00

I've never even heard of that place before...

I like to do my shopping @ Canadacomputers.com but they suxors when it comes to buying there video cards which is why I used tigerdirect.ca for reference instead.

So thanks for the linx as I'm curious to look at what there selection is and for what price.

I didn't bother looking at ncix.com either simply because I avoid buying online and rather just pick the stuff up at the local store in the area.

[EngkAnt0]

Re: building my first pc.

ok guys can u tell me where to plug this speaker wire from fron panel..couldnt find the plug in for it..help!!!!!!!!!