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  • Mackaveli

    #1

    need help buying new pc parts please

    well, i tried upgrading my old pentium 4 3.0 AGP based system by buying a new vid card ( x1950pro 512mb agp ) and an additional 2 gigs ram (2g kingston 2x1g pc3200 400mhz dimm ) making it 3 g total but the increase in performance was very very small, and not worth the $ or effort. so i have decided to ebay my new card and new ram and just start building a new pci-e dual core pc..I want to be able to play coming games like crysis without any probs.i am on a Very limited budget but i still wanna get good-fast stuff..
    i have been looking on newegg and a few other places for stuff to get but i really dont know what is good and what goes w/ what and really could use some help picking the right Procc./MoB etc. What are the best/fastest parts i should get ? I have a few ideas but im really not sure. Can anyone suggest some things please? something where i wouldnt have to upgrade the procc. or MoB or anything for 2-3 years ( except the vid card of course )..The Hard Drive doesnt need to be very big at all..the one i have now is only 80G and i have never maxxed it out so i wouldnt need a big H/D..i have a new PSU that im gonna use so i wont be needing a psu. Any help is appreciated!

    Thx Alot
  • System
    Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1091

    #2
    Re: need help buying new pc parts please

    Read my sig... Of course you don't need to get 4gb of ram, and prolly go with a XX50 c2d instead... or better yet a Q6600. But for basic build, follow my rig from 5months back =D

    EDIT.

    I didn't think I'd have time to further explain what to look for in a new rig but now I can...

    CPU - E6600 Q6600 or a XX50 C2d.

    CPU cooling - Artic freezer pro 7, zalman or thermaltake

    RAM - 2gb 667mhz ++

    Vid card - 320 mb gts or higher if you wish. Dont want DX10? X1950 pro or 7600++ (7600 will play bf2 all high but weak.)

    HD - Try to get a 74 GB raptor. Otherwise, a 100-500 GB 7200 SATA2 HD is fine depending on how much space you need for storage.

    DVD/CD burner by liteon/panasonic.

    A mobo similiar to mine if you want future proof solid. 122-CK-NF68 A1 is my mobo by EVGA.

    Xtreme gamer/music sound card. (optional)

    Antec 900 case is great cooling out of the box.


    OC you C2D with your aftermarket fan. Very easy. If you buy the mobo I suggested, I know it comes with a very easy BIOS that allows even a rookie to OC easily (as I was and prolly still am Lol)

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    • signa
      CS-Nation / TGN Staff
      • Dec 2004
      • 4191

      #3
      Re: need help buying new pc parts please

      how much can you spend on the new build?
      "Crunch's First Officer"
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      • Mackaveli

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        Re: need help buying new pc parts please

        Originally posted by signa
        how much can you spend on the new build?
        well.. iunno really ..700.00? . thats not including vid card - or PSU ( i have a new one ) - or OS cost of course.. just the MoB-HD-DVD-CPU-RAM. ETC.I would like to get a MoB thats sli and dx10 compat though. so if i upgrade later it will just be by adding another vid card and run 2 x sli..
        thx

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        • The Laughing Man
          Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 256

          #5
          Re: need help buying new pc parts please

          MoB thats sli and dx10 compat
          The Mobo doesn't matter, they should all be Dx10 compliant the issue is going to be with your GPU. If the info in this link is reliable

          Dx10.1

          then it would seem Microsoft is about to give everyone and anyone that has bought Vista and a Dx10 card a right royal screwing. If you're wanting to build a rig to play Dx10 games then leave it for now and wait until Vista Sp1, Dx10.1, compatiable cards and Crysis have all been released, if you want to play Dx9 games then the parts mentioned by the guys above is pretty near the mark.

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          • Mackaveli

            #6
            Re: need help buying new pc parts please

            thx


            i was reading up on the 8800's but the range of GPU Mhz and MEM and PRICE is just cunfusing as hell..

            i will be ( more than likely ) getting WIN XP as the OS again on this new pc. Vista has too many probs and is still too expensive in my opinion right now..


            whats the fastest PCI-e card for 200-400 $ ? or what card(s) do you suggest, period?

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            • imported_Neptune
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1021

              #7
              Re: need help buying new pc parts please

              Originally posted by Mackaveli
              thx


              i was reading up on the 8800's but the range of GPU Mhz and MEM and PRICE is just cunfusing as hell..

              i will be ( more than likely ) getting WIN XP as the OS again on this new pc. Vista has too many probs and is still too expensive in my opinion right now..


              whats the fastest PCI-e card for 200-400 $ ? or what card(s) do you suggest, period?
              the fastest right now im pretty sure is a 8800 ultra. for 200-400 i think you may be able to get a 8800 gts

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              • Mackaveli

                #8
                Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                yea.. i was leaning toward this one - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082

                paired with this CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115029

                can you tell me what is the difference in these two MoBo's? What makes the EvGa one better ?

                EvGa - MoBo #1 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188013

                Gigabyte - MoBo #2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128047

                ill prolly end up sli'ing 2 of those cards.. is the EvGa a better MoBo For sli?

                thanks for the help

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                • System
                  Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1091

                  #9
                  Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                  Good picks.

                  EVGA also has a 90 day step program offered for your video card so if you want a better card you can upgrade it.

                  As for the mobo's your choosing.

                  First of all, the EVGA has 2 true 16x PCI-E ports and a 3rd PCI-E port for w/e vs the Gigabyte mobo which is indicated that it only has 1x 16x PCI-E and a 4x PCI-E. If you plan on using SLI one day, go with the EVGA board. The EVGA board is capable of 1200+ mhz ram vs a OC limit of up to 1066mhz on the Gigabyte.

                  Another thing you can take advantage of is dual ethernet cables. One will be dedicated to packet inflow and the other outflow. This is said to reduce load on your cpu and overall increase performance. I wish I could comment on this but that is one thing I am not able to take advantage of on the EVGA mobo.

                  However, the Gigabyte has 2x more SATA2 ports...

                  The EVGA board you listed is the exact same board I have and I love it. My only cons on it is that one of the fan header ports is defective but you can't always have perfect manufacting. I didn't bother to return it because I didn't want to wait any longer to build my computer. Back to topic, it will OC very well too. You will have no problems in setting your FSB to 1500. I haven't ventured much past 1511 simply because there is no need really, but I'd imagine you could as it is a solid board (good quality).

                  EDIT. I just noticed you had another thread currently active on roughly the same topic and I suggested that gigabyte mobo to you in it. I didn't see that it only has one 16x pci-e vs dual which is what I mentioned in the other thread. Still, for a cheaper board its not all that bad. Be honest, I didn't look too hard over it as at the time it seemed like a budget build. Looks like your on track though.

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                  • Mackaveli

                    #10
                    Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                    kool thx.
                    keep checking this thread plz as i will have more questions im sure lol.

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                    • TheButler208

                      #11
                      Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                      the P4 is a bottleneck. Well bottleneck is an understatement. Its more like a 10 lane highway with 1 open toll booth.

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                      • Mackaveli

                        #12
                        Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                        heres my build so far.. i dont know if all the items are compatible or what so i would appreciate any advice.. take a look and please someone tell me if this is good so far ( will it all work together and fit in the case below..)

                        (((NOTE - NO PSU BELOW CUZ I HAVE A BRAND NEW PSU I HAVENT OPENED w/ 32a@12v)))



                        MoBo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188013

                        CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115029

                        CPU Cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ezer%2bpro%2b7

                        Hardrive ( OEM ) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136075

                        DVD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106070

                        Vid Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082

                        RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227124

                        WIN XP ( OEM ) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116056

                        CASE - http://www.xoxide.com/x-static-2-silver.html

                        like i said i really dont know very much about whats compatible and whats not so if anyone can PLEASE help me out so i dont get the wrong stuff i would really appreciate it

                        im wanting to order within the next few days but i need to make sure im getting all the right stuff first obviously..

                        Thanks for reading!!

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                        • Mackaveli

                          #13
                          Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                          Anyone? Lil Help ?? Please???

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                          • solofowaffles
                            Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 4306

                            #14
                            Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                            will run very good,excellent choices :)

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                            • Mackaveli

                              #15
                              Re: need help buying new pc parts please

                              so everything is compatible then? the Hardrive / MoBo / Case etc. ?

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