Half-Life 2 vs Doom 3

[xlokix]

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Josh29 wrote..

I agree with you completely, rizzuh and the rest of the news bunch needs to get they're act together and start updating they're site with better POTDs. Its allmost unprofessional.



EDIT: Also I think the new tomb raider game for the PS2 was much more enjoyable than D3, maybe they should compare tomb raider with HL2 or D3.

You can't just "Make up" news, it comes and goes. As for the POTD, that's probably the least thing to worry about on a website such as CSNation. Counter-strike is over 5 years old, some POTD pictures won't be as funny as others. CSNation gets POTD submissions from you so it has nothing to do with professionalism on CSNation's part, they just pick the best pictures out of what you send them.



In fact, the current POTD wasn't there yestarday to my knowledge.

[Schmich]

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finally on page 4

ALT+F4 wrote..

and it's the same old "locked door, find the key; missing part, find the replacement" puzzle crap that masquerades as gameplay.

yeh and its got the old "doom" in the title too! maybe the locked door thing is part of the doom gameplay...

ALT+F4 wrote..

Worst of all, though, IT'S NOT SCARY. I jumped a few times when steam lines burst or control panels collapsed, but aside from a few faceless (literally) and headless zombies the monsters and demons are appallingly unimaginative and predictable. As is Hell, itself.

i must say you're the man, no, you're an übermensch! not scared? i was tbh...

*Kingpin* wrote..

I would like to add that this site is based around a mod for a 6 year old game!!! This is truly a remarkable feat. A game that doesn't have particularly good graphics, but the game play.

no good graphics and u need to tweak alot to get constant 100fps with an ati 9800pro =( im glad source is coming out coz this cs, 1.6, i think has been modified too much and doesnt have an efficient coding or something for some newer cards...might be wrong on that though

when/why did hl1 come in this discussion?



some of u pple should drop that flashlight discussion....hl2 and all the other games have the restriction that u cannot have 2 weapons/items at the same time (eg for hl2: u cannot hold a pistol and the crowbar at the same time, or two pistols like the duals)

i wonder how the hl2 flashlight will be



one part that i dont understand is this:

from the article

While both games are quite impressive in their own right, one is clearly superior to the other.

i thought he was comparing the engines? and then again if he meant the engines how can he say HL2 engine is the best...it depends what kind of game u want...HL2 will be a great game and Doom3 is a great game, HL2 has big open maps (done intentionally) and Doom3 small closed ones (intentionally too), HL2 has vehicles and Doom3 hasnt (yet) both is normal unless u expected the marine to drive a small moped (yes that has a headlight!) in the corridors. HL2 characters have facial muscles, Doom3 characters havent (maybe coz the marine doesnt meet that many humans when the game actually starts) etc...

Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 (gameplay and engines) cannot be directly compared coz they are made for different game styles. Basta!



Q1. Isn't Quake 4 going to be made on the Doom 3 engine?

Q2. Where is azz0r?



EDIT: took away the bold-ing on the whole of last part that was done by accident =P

[Linux]

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idontfeellikeit wrote..

if you retards like doom 3 so much, then go away play your MP 4 player game and have fun bieng retards that you are.



this forums are for CS, thus for engine HL2, thus for HL2 material. coming here and saying how great Doom3 is doesnt help noone but only makes you look like your ignorant fucktard.

W00t w00t... BUts this is a review of HL2 vs. Doom 3, soooo yeah... And also the Multiplyer is fun when you can only fit 4 people in your house.... So thanks for that info.



Wait Wait. I'm such a Doom 3 and HL2 fan, I put the sounds and music on my IPOD!!!! Now that own3d everything!

[ma_cherie]

Noleafclover199 wrote..

ma cherie ur e-mail adress is disturbing

which is why no one ever e-mails me

[Mr. T]

Doom 3 didn't scare me at all but it's still a very good game.

[-:Nighthawk:-]

The article wasn't totally horrible, and had a few valid points, but I definitely thought the whole thing was premature and unnecessary. Doom 3 does what it's been designed to do, as does the Source engine. They're meant for different styles of games, approach similar problems from different perspectives, and both bring unique things to the table that you may or may not value.



One funny side-note... why does Doom 3 claim to have a minimum spec of a GF3 when you can run it on lower? I mean, sure, it's uglier lower, but it didn't say "minimum recommended" or anything... odd.

xlokix wrote..

short, simple, and full of trash? no i'm pretty sure this article is a notch better than anything michael moore has done.

I was writing better stuff in the 3rd grade than anything Michael Moore did. Oh, wait, I forgot, that's because I was taught not to be an obnoxious, stupid, deceptive, and unscrupulous jackass.

DocUK wrote..

Antedeluvian!

There might be one other person in the CS audience who knew what that word meant without looking it up, but I'm guessing it was pretty much limited to the two of us, weirdo.

ALT+F4 wrote..

And how stupid is being able to use either a weapon OR a flashlight, but not both simultaneously? Given the inordinate overall darkness of the game a tactical light strapped to your weapon (or even held in your other hand) is an absolute must and, fortunately, users have made several mods that correct this injustice.

I'm going to have to agree with the gameplay decision aspect of this. Grabbing a user mod to allow you to always have the flashlight on while criticizing the decision seems like a rather weak attempt to cover up a lack of proficiency when trying to play how the game was designed.



Sure, you might simply not appreciate the decision, but it comes across as someone who sucks trying to justify downloading a cheat. After that point, I really don't know how you can criticize the game, especially in the realm of "not being scary" or whatever.

Linux wrote..

...but my Doom 3, I did a lot of testing and looking around it its better than some of those pictures and things he was taking about... But I do agree HL2 does beat it in somethings.

Were you testing Doom 3 while playing at your friend's 60 gigabit datacenter?

ePhemoL wrote..

I don't get the fun ads anymore with my CS-Nationalist account

And I'm sure the hide skyscraper/google ads option in your preferences doesn't relate to this? :P

xlokix wrote..

ID must have spent all of their money on graphics and forgot about gameplay

Nice. :)

GameHopper wrote..

the real answers:

(snip)

Nice analysis. Much better than the article in question.

KiGrind wrote..

And why the hell isn't CSN updateing.

- News

- POTD



Those are always lacking. BUT NO... the SOTD always updates on time.

We rarely miss a day, but it does happen every so often. It really can be demanding to have new content every single day, so try not to be too critical of other people. You know... can't force interesting news to happen or good pictures to be taken. :)

[Firefucker]

Schmich wrote..

i thought he was comparing the engines? and then again if he meant the engines how can he say HL2 engine is the best...it depends what kind of game u want...HL2 will be a great game and Doom3 is a great game, HL2 has big open maps (done intentionally) and Doom3 small closed ones (intentionally too),

I truly believe Id used a group of trained monkeys for the level design, because all the human designers committed suicide after realising: "holy s#'*, all we can do is SMALL CORRIDORS???"

[tibi08]

Firefucker wrote..

I truly believe Id used a group of trained monkeys for the level design, because all the human designers committed suicide after realising: "holy s#'*, all we can do is SMALL CORRIDORS???"

Which is why I didn't buy Doom 3.



Might download the demo if it ever comes out, though.

[Kudo Schnichi]

I read the whole review.



1) Half-Life 2 wasn't out yet, so you can't compare

2) This review basic wasn't even worth 1 star review



Like all posts either take this out in his site or its really embrassed to see this guy doesn't know much of gaming.

[jo0ni3]

Noleafclover199 wrote..

i would like to say, that was the most brilliant way to end a paragraph....



did u by anychance actualy PLAY THROUGH HL1?

i thought the flashlight was on Gordon's hazard suit.. thus not requiring him to hold it.

[Noleafclover199]

yea it was, thats what i was saying, he was saying it was un realisic, but that was where the flashlight was

[The_Spaniard]

Kudo Schnichi you did not read the title or any of the other posts didn't you?

[Stagger Lee]

I hate to stray but.....Why do everyone's comments on here read like a drunk dyslexic Yoda? Do they still teach English as a first language in schools...or do kids just learn English from bad Rap and Hip Hop videos these days?

[T|2i|34L]

Stagger Lee wrote..

I hate to stray but.....Why do everyone's comments on here read like a drunk dyslexic Yoda? Do they still teach English as a first language in schools...or do kids just learn English from bad Rap and Hip Hop videos these days?

I've often wondered this myself. It seems an odd mix of ebonics, leet-speak, and AIM-lingo have turned into a completely unique internet dialect of english.



Oh yea - I don't care if it is considered a "cheat" - I'll be using a flashlight on my weapons in D3. I played it through once without, and yes there were moments of tension when I had to shoot stuff I couldn't see, but after a while it just got annoying.



Also - for you who are bitching about the gameplay of D3 - you obviously aren't old enough to remember the good old days of Wolf3d and the original Doom. I remember thinking how awesome Quake was because you could have intersecting levels on top of one another (bridges, etc...). For those of us who honed our fraggin' skills on the original Doom, this remake was a great hail to our past.

[Pharlap]

mathyou wrote..

Did anyone else get the irony in that paragraph?

yes yes i did.

hes talkign about freedom of speech then tells us to keep our mouths shut.



now where are my god damn cookies?!?

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

I was writing better stuff in the 3rd grade than anything Michael Moore did. Oh, wait, I forgot, that's because I was taught not to be an obnoxious, stupid, deceptive, and unscrupulous jackass.

no matter how funny, witty, and informative moore's material is...gerorge bush is still a dickhead who deserves to get assasinated/blown up. him and his "ex-oil CEOs" band of cronies :)

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T|2i|34L wrote..

I played it through once without, and yes there were moments of tension when I had to shoot stuff I couldn't see, but after a while it just got annoying.

"it just got annoying", then that equates to the logic of using a cheat does it not? of course not having a flashlight was intentional, to build up tension of not being defended but seeing and vice-versa.



reminds me of the film "aliens 2" when their running around some military complex swarming with critters.