Shielding CS:S

[quiv]

remove it. concentrate development on the things people DO use.

[azz0r]

WHY REMOVE IT! MAKE IT AN OPTION.



Why would you friggen remove something when some people enjoy it, some servers enjoy it, some dont.

[David Johnston]

You'd think a news item like this might get at least one reply...



I guess it's not a hot issue after all.

[redspider2390]

Drop auto snipers + shields. End of story, gayest guns. I would never trust valve developing either of them working fairly.

[David Johnston]

I say we remove all the pistols and give all the Terrorists jetpacks, K9 units, exploding clogs, and russian dolls. The Counter-Terrorists can be shrunk such that they are 2 foot high and 5 times as slow. They also have no weapons. And large noses. Very large. Large enough to only damage Terrorists by prodding them directly in their belly using the new physics engine. It does 0.5% damage each time, and makes the Terrorists giggle.

[Blind-Goose]

Loose it!!!

[OPIE]

dagoof wrote..

At this point, it interrupts a game, and it's like an unwritten rule not to use it. If you have tons of servers saying "no shielding" and if you use it in others, you get a ton of crap, you know it's not something you want to have in your game. That and the fact that it's outlawed in leagues doesn't speak well for it's popularity.

dagoof wrote..

This is a war, not a riot. They dont have "Riot Shields" in a war...

DivaBadGirl wrote..

nothing good ever came out of that shield... most of the people using it are morons who like to sit in a corner in the middle of nowhere just camping out the rounds, and i definitely hate the stand offs.. as another guy said, it really takes away the fast pace of the game that i love. if you really wanna keep it, then at least make it possible to shoot through the window...



and by the way, "OPIE" is an idiot... taking out a sniper without using an awp yourself ain't so hard... throw a smoke, a flash, dodge, take another route and shoot them in the back... and for guys like OPIE who needs his zoom to be able to hit someone long range, get glasses and stop whining...

An idiot eh? I know very well ways to get around the AWP without a sniper rifle. I've done it many times, and in many ways. The point is. The AWP is over balanced. I've been shot in the leg before and I died. oops, never knew a leg shot would kill me instantly. And the fact is if I get shot in the leg and die. What happens when I shoot someone in the leg and they don't die? It's unbalanced and a "whore" weapon. You all complain about the shield, it's so unbalanced, it provides an advantage. Well how about when a Terrorist team is totaly dominating and then they want to capitalize on their domination and basicly the entire team buys the AWP. It not only wrecks the game but it makes it unfair, not fun and just plain stupid.



And no I don't need my zoom to kill people. Comparing the AWP to the shield was just a way to get my point across. If you had any intelligence you would of noticed it.



Counter-Strike is not about war. It's about a Terrorist action and the counter-terrorists preventing that action.



The fact that it is outlawed in leagues is the fact it still has glitchs and exploits. Most leagues including CAL stated when those glitchs and exploits are fixed the shield WILL be LEGAL in league play.



I'm tired of talking to 5 year olds. I feel confident the shield will remain. And I will laugh when it is in CS:S. Just because you 5 year olds don't get you're way doesn't mean the world is over. It's a video game guys. Not LIFE.

[XeroHour]

If you can have the AWP, you can have the shield. Besides, wasn't the shield made to address the AWP'ers anyways?

[orion]

Will you people kindly stop with the whole realism bit?



I can probably pull out more than 50 unreal things in this game, but the most important reason is... THIS IS A GAME.



There are certain elements a game needs, regardless of "realism."



Most of the arguments I'm seeing are, "If you are going to remove the shield, why not removed the awp too." I'm going to give my opinion to this argument.



1.) The primary use of the shield isn't to stop an awper, it is usually used to piss someone else off because it is very difficult to kill someone with a shield. Yes 2-3 nades kill a shielder, but you are only allowed one nade :)



2.) The shield has too many flaws in it, even if there is a new fix, a new flaw and exploit is found.



3.) Most of the people complaining about the awp being a 1 shot kill, are the same people that play DoD and think it's a great game. I'm not an avid DoD player, but I know the British and German riflemen kill with one shot, and some other guns kill in two (2) shots however you can spam these guns and easily get two shots off before moving. God forbid there is only one one-shot kill weapon in CS.



/rant



I really don't care if the shield stays or goes, I only play in pubs late night when I'm bored, and when I'm scrimming people don't use the shield, so the shield doesn't really effect me. However, I'm fighting its existence because of its flaws.



P.S. Stop complaining about realism, join the police force, sign up for your local national guard, don't play games.

[Ferrick]

Keep it. I don't really care about people using shields that much and I agree it's a good sniper counter. Especially in de_cbble.

[I2o[G]uE TacT-X]

ALT+F4 wrote..

All this talk of realism and balance in CS is absurd. In what world can one take, say, even 30% damage -- from enemy lead projectiles and still leap about with no ill effect other than how much more damage it will take to finish the job? In the otherwise lame Tactical Ops you bleed when wounded and even though it doesn't affect your physical mobility you at least leave a blood trial for the enemy to follow.



As for the shield, the sheer force of impact from a single .50 caliber bullet, let alone a steady stream of .45 or 9mm, should inconveniece a shield wielder with more than just a shower of sparks. Although tactically sound, both the shield and the AWP often come across ingame as tools of the cowardly.



Meanwhile, I find endless amusement in CS gun models made by people who have no idea how the weapon they're modeling actually functions. Ejection port dust covers flapping open and closed with every shot (default M4), bolts disappearing downward into the magazine well rather than compressing backward into the receiver (a recent TMP reskin), closed bolts with cocking levers in the open position (MAC-10), animations showing completely superfluous movements (charging the M4, and others, on hot reload when the bolt actually stays open on an empty mag and needs only to be released on a fresh one)...



I still think it's absurd that the MAC-10 doesn't have a sound suppressor, not only because the threaded barrel to accept one was an integral design from the beginning but because it's a safe and logical way to hold the weapon with your supporting hand. I know LEOs who lost thumb tips by accidentally letting their left thumbs climb up in front of unsuppressed MAC barrels.



Not to mention, of course, the Going Deaf factor you'd have to deal with firing any of these weapons indoors or out with no hearing protection.



Niggling details, admittedly, but noticeable to those who know the difference.



And, yes, if I could do any better I would.

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[ReallyStonedEmily]

Sack the shield eh! Servers are going to do it anyways, and if they dont disgruntled admins will, Instead of investing the time to fix it, invest it in making some other part of the game better, yea most people already said what I did and more so yea thats it.

[SushiEF101]

I happen to like the shield, but get rid of it anyway! If you can fix it, fix it.

[thadood]

It should be kept. I think it's a great idea, especially for playing cs_ maps. Other than that, it doesn't serve much of a purpose.. unless you're pubbing and rushing as a ct, like an idiot.

[Fry101]

BOOT IT!!!!