Element Sold to NoA

[lockhart]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

I like the idea of him being "sold" because it's that much more amusing to say it like that. No matter what term or phrase you use for it, however, it still amounts to the same thing, and we're all aware of what the deal was.

Yeah I'm an idiot. At least I admit to it when other people post things like... 'give CPL money to parks and schools!' and then don't own up to their own drunken idiocy.

[ravage777]

n8bowa wrote..

Competitive Gaming is still within the lines of the definition of "sport" despite your negative outlooks on the players and the ability to become successful in it. You're comparison with masturbation is false because, to my knowledge, I know of none that do it competitively. If there are some that do, as absurd as it may seem, it can be classified as a sport too. An activity doesn't have to exhibit the ability for one to become successful financially to be a sport and neither has to be immensely popular. Football, soccer, baseball, basketball, and even chess can be said to be "just a game" too. But the fact stands that online competitive gaming follows the definition of "sport", so therefore it is one. You haven't said anything to prove your point, just expressed pessimistic ideas.

Last I knew, exertion is: The act or an instance of exerting, especially a strenuous effort.



Last I knew, sitting on your ass and moving your hand isn't strenuous. That is why chess and gaming aren't considered sports. Neither. Darts, billards, or poker even. You see competitions for them. These things can be called competitive activities, but not sports. Yes, some day, though still a tiny chance, we may see major networks airing gaming competitions like how poker and darts competitions are aired, but no, they still aren't sports.

[Ravenium]

Nighthawk: true, there are many crushed dreams for every successful one. The couple differences are that physical sports promote healthy and active lifestyles, whereas "esports" doesn't quite do that (DDR, maybe? hehe). Second, the "barrier to entry" that I might have mentioned earlier - It's a lot harder to get into the sports scene than it is to be in the "esports" scene. I just can't quite respect endless hours of playing video games, but that might just be my bias.



-Rav

[Thortok2000]

-:Nighthawk:- wrote..

The problem is, it's a band-aid approach, our typical "treat the symptoms" approach that most of American culture buys into with our painkillers and feel-good self-esteem-building psychology. Most of the time we don't really solve any of the root problems, so we waste millions and billions of dollars on a "cause" that will never fix the problem.



Sure, feeding the hungry and needy is a worthy cause. But why does there seem to be a never-ending supply of hungry children? Why the hell are people still having fourteen kids when they can't afford to feed even the first one? That is the type of thing that we never address. How about the money we spend trying to treat aids victims in Africa, when the real problem is that the bulk majority of the population still runs around screwing each other and passing on the disease, bringing it on themselves?

I agree, for the most part.



The best place to spend the money would be to prevent these bad things.



The second best place is to 'treat the symptoms' of these things. (While you're looking up ways to prevent a kid from going hungry, you can still give him some food in the meantime.)



Either of those still go above throwing thousands of dollars into entertainment, where one can 'see the results'.



But this is offtopic so we can end it there.



I'm very interested in seeing video games become a 'media'. Entertainment Weekly, for instance, covers Movies, DVDs, TV, Books, and Music. If it covers video games at all, it covers them once in a blue moon.



That's what I'd like to see change. Steps in that direction.



And as far as any video games being a 'sport', I feel it's something that's totally fine, but it won't be taken seriously until video games are taken seriously.



The way some guy compared 'a sheep's stomach' to paintball...one is popular, one is 'niche'. If you get video games to be a media, then some games will be popular and others will be 'niche'.



I'm not a fan of any sports (or even sports video games), but I do want to see video games as a whole taken more seriously.

[ravage777]

Hm, that's another thing that Ravenium brought up. More people attempting "serious" video gaming promotes obesity, while sports promotes exercise which is a counter to obesity. It all leads up to something in the end. Less tax payers' money spent on patients in a hospital that get a heart disease. :P At least in Ontario, Canada, where the health care is free.

[Buddah]

I find it sad.



How old is he, like 16 or 17? At that age he had signed a contract almost on par with what a pro athlete (I in no way consider playing video games, board games, or fishing a sport).



I secondly oppose the fact that sponsors dump money (including products) into these teams. Some of the top teams especially. I'd rather see the money used into developing the next generation of technology.

[Ryda]

sport ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)

n.



-Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.



-An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.



-An active pastime; recreation.



I think cs kinda covers this O_o

[dannywaddington]

absent wrote..

haha

cs players are fags

Back that up with some evidence and I'll gladly challenge your argument. Untill then, please refrain from posting unsound accusations.



#39 - CS2 is CS:Source Only, it's not going to be called CS2.

I agree too, and I would be happy for, competetive professional gaming to become a more popular sport. I'd love to see it on the sports channels

[OPIE]

Supersonic1425 wrote..

Why are you posting here? Clearly, we're all pathetic nerds, and you're a top sportsman. Or are you just someone who watches football from his recliner with a couple of beers and a big slab of butter on his face?



Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself, because no-one in the world would like to hear them. kthxbye



Ha! You're a n00b, aren't you? Just keep playing on your lovely little pub servers with annoying stats, stupid sound clips, and beginner players.

n00b, no. I've been playing Counter-Strike for a long time. I have been online gaming since DOOM. And Quake Team Fortress.



I don't like competition that much. Or at least to the level the leagues put it with video games. Competition has ruined online gaming. It has made it into self glory. The game is no longer about having fun. It's about winning. And thats what I hate what online gaming has turned into.



It use to be Frag em there frag em here..."nice shot man teach me that"... "ok" Everyone was nice, once in a while you would get a smacktard that thinks just because they are all snuggled up behind their computer and noone knows who they are...that they can make complete asses of themselves.



Now it's all smacktards and everyone wants to win and be the best.

I still like Counter-Strike. And I can not wait untill CS-Source. I have avoided playing in public servers because of all the idiots running around. I only play on my clans server. The reason is we have a nice community and everyone has played with eachother long enough to know eachother really well. So we play to have fun. And when the pub surfers come in they see we have built a nice community and join up.



I just find that "pro-Gaming" is amoung the stupidest things in the world. I love gaming, love it to death. But I think getting paid to play a video game is so stupid. You get no work ethic and you are hardly earning you're pay. Some people are really good at video games and they get paid for it. I think thats stupid. We need more people out in the work force to try and better this world. We don't need people playing video games as a job.



Now some could argu, well what about the people who make the video games. Well the world needs entertainment. Without entertainment this place would suck more then it allready does. So you could say people who make video games are helping to better us. After all video games build intellegence (in a sense) enhance cordination skills and reaction times.



As much as I hate leagues. I don't hate the people that want to play in leagues. I just hate the people that are complete assholes and think they are the best person in the entire world. And Leagues seem to be filling up with them. CAL is just full of em. OGL...well thats a completely different story on it's own. UGS is one of the better attitude leagues. But still there are to many people with poor attitudes that just ruin the game completely. It's no longer any fun.



I sincerly hope that Gaming does not become an official sport. I don't think it is a sport. It requires nothen nearly close to physical skill. It may be competitive. But it's still not a sport. Yes I am a athlete. Baseball and Soccer were my sports. So this is a issue I feel strongly about with my morals ect...I actually work in a sporting goods store in a managment position. I attend ITT-Tech for multimedia. Learning C++ and hope to get a career in video game design, and do my own 3d animation movies as side projects. Thats my dream. And if being a "pro-Gamer" is someones dream, then go for it...but it will not change my opinion on how stupid I think it is.

[Pharlap]

ravage777 wrote..

..That is why chess and gaming aren't considered sports. Neither. Darts, billiards, or poker even..

erm billiards (or snooker depending on what u call it) is considered by millions as a sport. chess and poker i dont know, but billiards/snooker is defintely a sport. the top players a multi millionaires.

[Wwv]

ROFL fucking idiots



excuse my french but it's the best language to describe it

[dannywaddington]

Well done OPIE, you've just categorised and stereotyped thousands upon thousands of people in to one collective group of 'smacktards'.



I'll keep this short, very short. I for one, enjoy playing in a clan with a nice community and nice people who I get along with. I like to play competetive clan wars with them. It is nice to see tactics you have developed with each other working in a game. Working with a team and talking to people confidently can also help in social life. However, sitting infront of this thing 24/7 does not I need some fresh air... Right after some sleep :) nite :)

[Gameshot911]

OPIE wrote..

n00b, no. I've been playing Counter-Strike for a long time. I have been online gaming since DOOM. And Quake Team Fortress.



I don't like competition that much. Or at least to the level the leagues put it with video games. Competition has ruined online gaming. It has made it into self glory. The game is no longer about having fun. It's about winning. And thats what I hate what online gaming has turned into.



It use to be Frag em there frag em here..."nice shot man teach me that"... "ok" Everyone was nice, once in a while you would get a smacktard that thinks just because they are all snuggled up behind their computer and noone knows who they are...that they can make complete asses of themselves.



Now it's all smacktards and everyone wants to win and be the best.

I still like Counter-Strike. And I can not wait untill CS-Source. I have avoided playing in public servers because of all the idiots running around. I only play on my clans server. The reason is we have a nice community and everyone has played with eachother long enough to know eachother really well. So we play to have fun. And when the pub surfers come in they see we have built a nice community and join up.



I just find that "pro-Gaming" is amoung the stupidest things in the world. I love gaming, love it to death. But I think getting paid to play a video game is so stupid. You get no work ethic and you are hardly earning you're pay. Some people are really good at video games and they get paid for it. I think thats stupid. We need more people out in the work force to try and better this world. We don't need people playing video games as a job.



Now some could argu, well what about the people who make the video games. Well the world needs entertainment. Without entertainment this place would suck more then it allready does. So you could say people who make video games are helping to better us. After all video games build intellegence (in a sense) enhance cordination skills and reaction times.



As much as I hate leagues. I don't hate the people that want to play in leagues. I just hate the people that are complete assholes and think they are the best person in the entire world. And Leagues seem to be filling up with them. CAL is just full of em. OGL...well thats a completely different story on it's own. UGS is one of the better attitude leagues. But still there are to many people with poor attitudes that just ruin the game completely. It's no longer any fun.



I sincerly hope that Gaming does not become an official sport. I don't think it is a sport. It requires nothen nearly close to physical skill. It may be competitive. But it's still not a sport. Yes I am a athlete. Baseball and Soccer were my sports. So this is a issue I feel strongly about with my morals ect...I actually work in a sporting goods store in a managment position. I attend ITT-Tech for multimedia. Learning C++ and hope to get a career in video game design, and do my own 3d animation movies as side projects. Thats my dream. And if being a "pro-Gamer" is someones dream, then go for it...but it will not change my opinion on how stupid I think it is.

T+You are entitled to your opinion just as much as everyone else. Its not mandatory that you love pro-gaming, and nothing says that being for pro-gaming is better than being against it.



For those of us who remember it, it was nice back in the day to have friendly competition that was merely a game, for entertainment.



However, times change. You cant expect this sector of gaming to remain the same. Thats like comparing Pong to Doom. I find it best just to try to adapt, and have some fun as well.

[Wwv]

I'm mailing this to CNN, kids get sold on the internet, they'll love it



Or maybe 'too much computer fries your brain studies show'

[n8bowa]

Ryda wrote..

sport ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)

n.



-Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.



-An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.



-An active pastime; recreation.



I think cs kinda covers this O_o

Exactly. It fits all of the definitions. It's a sport whether you like it or not.