Aztec Overhaul

[Tool]

I agree with spartibus, exactly. I'm kind of glad narby is going to take out the rain... rain is ugly in HL anyways and it lags =/ lightning never bothered me though.

[narby]

Solid Snake 88 wrote..

Wow, thats pathetic. Lessening a map by removing good features just for the sake of some little whny clan players?! If you can't handle simple weather effects on a 5+ year old engine, then you need to upgrade your computer and shut up. Complaining about, "omg my FPS drops on Aztec, WTF it ruined my perfect 1337 h4x score" makes you no better than the people who say, "This new version sucks, I can't bunnyhop anymore. CS is for nubs now lolol."

Pathetic I tell you. I'm so tired of this "PRO GAMER CAL-I YEAH YEAH" nonsense.

The problem is not the level, or the speed of the PC but a combination of things. Mainly, demo recording (which is required during all matches) takes a LOT out of your framerate when certain other conditions are there, such as weather and smoke.

[I2o[G]uE TacT-X]

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narby wrote..

The problem is not the level, or the speed of the PC but a combination of things. Mainly, demo recording (which is required during all matches) takes a LOT out of your framerate when certain other conditions are there, such as weather and smoke.

owned....

narby knows what he's doing. i have faith in him ;]

[masterying01]

the map is already t sided with the new updates.....now he's going to take out the lightning.



if a t has a good awper in bridge room, a ct won't peak bridge unless he's retarded...now, t's can walk bridge and easily take over b.



everything should be left as it is.......leave the lightning, leave the rain, leave the mist................and just make cl_weather 0 legal in leagues like cal cause no one has weather on anyways and cal aint going to turn over a match because 1 player didn't have weather on..

[XTRMNTR]

Anyone who doesn't know why people complain about cl_weather 1 on de_aztec has obviously never played CS on a 650 MHz Athlon with a TNT 2 video card. When you get 10 FPS and you're trying to play in a match, you tell me how much of a difference it makes when everyone else has at least a GeForce 4 or Radeon that can actually render all the effects.



I honestly don't understand the reasoning to why CAL says you can't have cl_weather 0 instead. Not everyone who plays CS has a updated computer. I know a few people who still have their Voodoo 3 video cards with a Pentium 3 500 MHz. And you can't reason with CAL to reverse cl_weather, they're a bit unreasonable with changing their rules. Not to mention a number of their rules are left open for interpretation. When it comes to rules, there should be no gray area, it's supposed black and white only. Right or wrong.



One reason why CS is still so popular is you don't need a top of the line system to run it. Not like UT 2004, Call of Duty, etc.



I hope the changes are made soon.



On a non-serious note...



Anyone remember back in the days when the lightning in aztec would kill players randomly?

[Seaweed]

blimey you americans catch on to things slow the thunder has been random ever since 1.6 aztec if you want something to rant about read http://www.ukterrorist.com/columns/view.php?id=669 maybe shaguar will copy and paste it onto a website and get it fixed?!

[CheesyPeteza]

The biggest problem is the amount of entities aztec uses. It uses a silly amount of processor usage on servers, about 4 times all the other maps.



You wouldn't like to hear what the other server admins are saying about aztec on the hlds mailing list lol. They aren't happy with it at all, mainly because they can't drop it from their server as it is so popular.

[xredebility]

EXCELLENT NEWS about that thunder trigger!!!



It adds a whole new tactical element to the map, because now you actually HAVE to cover bridge and/or stairs!!



NICE job narby!! :))

[Supersonic^]

has anyone noticed that the r_speeds are actually OVER the maximum allowed for a CS map?



Fix that more than anything.



I <3 narby

[DaRk-AnGeL]

Can't believe those assholes at CAL, they make up the small majority of the cs community, maybe we should play on pogo sticks when they say. They think they are more important than regular cs players, but the reverse is in fact true.



DOWN WITH CAL !!!!!!!!!



P.S Couldn't give two sticks about this all, im just bored

[tspoon1066]

I'm surprised that its only now that something is being done about this. There's been people moaning about it for months now.



I'd like to take this opportunity to say airstrip is the biggest anti-climax ever.

[sheardjr]

Why not just make de_aztec_cal? Then the CALers can stfu and the pubbers can keep all the effects :)

[Deletable_Man]

Seaweed wrote..

blimey you americans catch on to things slow the thunder has been random ever since 1.6 aztec if you want something to rant about read http://www.ukterrorist.com/columns/view.php?id=669 maybe shaguar will copy and paste it onto a website and get it fixed?!

We are slow? It's not even random, dipshit.

wow by the way.. who the Hell actually follows the stopsound and cl_weather rules in CAL? I mean, really?

[peagle]

What about de_aztec_cz? Weather? Who made that? Is that going to be in CAL? So many questions

[stevomanevo]

XTRMNTR wrote..

Anyone who doesn't know why people complain about cl_weather 1 on de_aztec has obviously never played CS on a 650 MHz Athlon with a TNT 2 video card. When you get 10 FPS and you're trying to play in a match, you tell me how much of a difference it makes when everyone else has at least a GeForce 4 or Radeon that can actually render all the effects.



I honestly don't understand the reasoning to why CAL says you can't have cl_weather 0 instead. Not everyone who plays CS has a updated computer. I know a few people who still have their Voodoo 3 video cards with a Pentium 3 500 MHz. And you can't reason with CAL to reverse cl_weather, they're a bit unreasonable with changing their rules. Not to mention a number of their rules are left open for interpretation. When it comes to rules, there should be no gray area, it's supposed black and white only. Right or wrong.



One reason why CS is still so popular is you don't need a top of the line system to run it. Not like UT 2004, Call of Duty, etc.



I hope the changes are made soon.



On a non-serious note...



Anyone remember back in the days when the lightning in aztec would kill players randomly?

untill last month i had a 256 sdram 399mhz p2 64mb geforce4 on windows 98... i would get maybe 10-15 fps but some how i was playing normal as could be.. it's more of what you are used to .. if you play with 15 fps for 3 years than you'll still be a good player.. just used to 15 fps..

now i'm alot better with my 100 fps but.. i think it's only cuz of practice.. i had to adjust alot