thrombose wrote.....good point. it's not just the exploits, glitches and bugs that make the shield suck: it's the only thing in the whole game you can't shoot through, which makes no sense within the CS world.
Maxim, stop replying. Everyone has their own set of opinions, and whatever you or rizzuh or fanboy spoonman says, no one will change their mind.
Just to put one argument, wheter or not CS is unrealistic, the Shield is completely unrealistic to the CS gameplay.
Proof:
1) AWP, AK and COLT crosses walls, even thick 4 feet walls.
2) AWP, AK and COLT cannot cross a Riot Shield (which cant be thicker than 3 inches).
Now this is unrealistic to CS.
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thrombose wrote..
Ah good to see those Awp whores stating there opinions so obviously.
Maxim, stop replying. Everyone has their own set of opinions, and whatever you or rizzuh or fanboy spoonman says, no one will change their mind.
Just to put one argument, wheter or not CS is unrealistic, the Shield is completely unrealistic to the CS gameplay.
Proof:
1) AWP, AK and COLT crosses walls, even thick 4 feet walls.
2) AWP, AK and COLT cannot cross a Riot Shield (which cant be thicker than 3 inches).
Now this is unrealistic to CS.
...good point. it's not just the exploits, glitches and bugs that make the shield suck: it's the only thing in the whole game you can't shoot through, which makes no sense within the CS world.
Listen the shield was a way of finally having the stupid awp nerfed and adding some strategy to this game. But hey lets all love steam but hate the new stuff.
Steam Suxs
Shield Rocks
Awp Blows
Stay with Won
Ect. ect. ect. every opinion thats not yours Ahmen@!Comment
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Edited by [user="2065"] @ [time="1068067379"]EastsideKnifeKillah wrote..
I'm sorry if I gave the illusion that I was trying to be. I'm just sick and tired of everyone looking for any excuse possible to bash any establishment, whether it is Steam, CAL, or even this site. I mean it kinda gets to you after the Ten billionth "STEAM SUX AND SO DOES TEH SHIELD" comment.
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thrombose wrote..
First of all I'm getting real tired of being called a fanboy. I work on a fansite, what the hell do you expect?
Now this is unrealistic to CS.
Second, I have not once stated my opinion on the shield. My point is that whether or not you think an item is good or not, if it is part of the game then it should be part of league play assuming that there are no exploits.Comment
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im a rizzuh fanboyComment
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Hey guys I'm a CS fanboy but you probably knew that!!Comment
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I don't care if the item was a good addition or not. Leagues should have EVERY DOOR OPEN for teams to compete. Would you support a league banning the dual elites? How about defusers?
Well, cs_ and as_ maps are the parts of CS too. But they are not used in competitive playing. Leagues are limited in their own lists of de_ maps. So why not limiting the weapons if they are considered as being not suitable for competitive playing?
I don't think that majorty of gamers agree on shield sux. Things still seem unclear here. But actually, majority of competitive gaming community does hate the shield.
Playing with RS is not even arguable in European CS Leagues. It has been restricted in nearly all of them. In USA, it seems like community is divided. We'll wait and see the results.Comment
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this gun in that game called CS makes a loud noise thingy and uh when you run and stuffs you make big sound too! lets rid all of sound from CS! yea! </somecsnationposter - dont worry i love you all>Comment
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Well, cs_ and as_ maps are the parts of CS too. But they are not used in competitive playing. Leagues are limited in their own lists of de_ maps. So why not limiting the weapons if they are considered as being not suitable for competitive playing?
You have a point about the map choice.. But you could argue about suitability of the shield in clanmatches.. I think a bug- & exploitfree shield won't have a great effect on clanmatches because I don't think it's very effective in 5v5 situations.. I think a T-team with AKs will always beat a CT-team that uses one or more shields.. So I simply don't see the 'big issue' people talk about..Comment
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rizzuh wrote..
Rizzuh, you are a fanboy, but I sure didn't mean that in a bad way. No need to get all stiffen up. :)
First of all I'm getting real tired of being called a fanboy. I work on a fansite, what the hell do you expect?
And I didn't called you fanboy in the first place (now I do), I called your teammate spoonman fanboy (of which I don't mean in a pejorative way either...).
So if someone says to me: "hey, you're a cs fanboy!"
I sure do agree 110%....Comment
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I don't mind the shield, its not that hard to go around the person and shoot them. What I do mind is the glitching, CAL should be more knowledgeable of whether or not the bugs are REALLY fixed or not.Comment
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I don't mind the shield, its not that hard to go around the person and shoot them. What I do mind is that guy with AWP and 3 guys with M4 behind the shielder.Comment
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I think a T-team with AKs will always beat a CT-team that uses one or more shields..
I'm not sure about it. An opponent holding shield is a threat for you, which you cannot shoot when he's in full cover, but he can shoot you by taking it to side, whenever he wants.
Take aztec, which is already a ct dominated map. When all or some of the terrorist rush through the the double doors, they have 3-4 enemys against 'em depending upon the strats and situation. Say 3 of those 4 cts are holding m4a1s and one holding a shield. As I mentioned, you cannot shoot him; but he can shoot you when he wants while you're firing at somebody else. Aztec can turn into amore unbalanced form (maybe it wont, we cannot estimate). The more a map is unbalanced, the more match's result is affected by factors other than skill and strats (like luck, and small mistakes).
You run through the hallway, reach its end, and face the enemy holding RS. Only way you can shoot him is to walk around him or wait until he opens his cover. This is the situation most of the people fear and hate to face in matches.
How fatal can pistol+shield can be?
Sometimes, after a lost round (especially pistol round or the round after that) teams chose buying deagle+armor and can beat the opponent holding mp5s+rifles. So, depending on the strats and skills, pistols can beat rifles in CS. Can pistol with the shield do it? No need to mention, even when firing your pistol, you are in half cover.
Actually, i can't get the logic behind why Valve made the shield being able to be bought in de_ maps. It's an equipment to provide cover for the attacking side. It can really enhance teamplay in maps such as militia or italy. Or maybe it can be used to cover vip in as_ maps. But why including it in already ct dominating bomb/defusal maps? Maybe it does not matter in public play, because no matter the map is, usually both teams play rushing. But in matches it can totaly unbalance the game. Maybe it can't. We'll wait and see, by watching demos from shield banned and not banned leagues.
About UGS, they manage the league in like more european style. First mr15 rules, then banning shield permanently... It's a good alternative for North American teams to get used to European style play.Comment
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Well, Bunny Hopping was a glitch, and the high level people were on their knees begging Valve to keep it in the game.
They all need a buy script for hypocrisy.Comment
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