UGS Stance on Riot Shield

[FAF]

RaptorRage wrote..

The shield weighs only 9.8kg (21.6 lbs)



Its just a Level IIIA ballistic shield endowed with magical properties to block all bullets and never wear out.

Yea, magical properties in CS just suck ass



I mean, jumping from a top floor into water, like on chateau, and like, not getting damage, I mean wtf is all that about???



All I can say is www.its_a_bloody_game.net.org.kthx.bye



Sure the shield, pisses me off on occasion, but so does awp/ak/colt/deagle, yet you dont see people moaning about them all the time. And as far as realism goes, who gives a damn?



I applaud the leagues for withdrawing shield because of the bugs, but hope that as soon as they are ironed out to a bearable degree, it will be re-introduced. If all the whingey gamers had their way, we'd still be back with a zoomable colt, bunnyjumping and no smoke nades. At least Valve are trying to keep the gameplay fresh.

[Spoonman]

MaxiM wrote..

BLAH BLAH BLAH I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

If CS was a realistic game, then it would be more like Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. No jumping, one to two hit kills, etc... However, CS isn't that realistic. It's the mix between realism and goofy, video-game play that makes CS what it is today.



And maxim, the more I read from you the more I see how you're a blathering idiot.



PS: GG UGS GGOMGROFFLELOLKTHNXHI2UGGG!!!!!!!!1!1111one!!1one! !!



^^^ To clarify, everyone is so FREAKIN excited that UGS made a descision. I'll wager only 1/5 of you that posted that actually play in UGS.

[[DXC]Dai]

I don't understand CAL, the shield is far from fixed. You can (and I have) easily glitch and be able to shoot while having the shield open and still enjoy full protection as if you had it closed.



If CAL has the thought that they will treat glitching as illegal, why would they want to cause more work for themselves by having to deal with hundreds of complaints...

[Deletable_Man]

Spoonman wrote..

If CS was a realistic game, then it would be more like Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. No jumping, one to two hit kills, etc... However, CS isn't that realistic. It's the mix between realism and goofy, video-game play that makes CS what it is today.



And maxim, the more I read from you the more I see how you're a blathering idiot.



PS: GG UGS GGOMGROFFLELOLKTHNXHI2UGGG!!!!!!!!1!1111one!!1one! !!



^^^ To clarify, everyone is so FREAKIN excited that UGS made a descision. I'll wager only 1/5 of you that posted that actually play in UGS.

Wow you wins the match!11

[Softy's 24/7 Fraggin]

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fix the shield and give me a Molotov to throw on it.

p.s. shields belong only on CS maps. "he come the Ts..let's form an invincible shield tower in the corner.."

[EastsideKnifeKillah]

Spoonman you are not funny

[xlokix]

[rizzuh]

MaxiM wrote..

And rizzuh, the more i read from you, the more i see how biased you are to VALV€.

No, I'm biased for Counter-Strike. The shield is part of Counter-Strike, whether you like it or not.



Obviously it shouldn't be used until it's fixed, but if or when the shield operates properly then it should be included in league play. The net result of this is that CAL teams will be able to use the shield while UGS teams won't. That is a fracture in the community; UGS should stay away from fracturing the competitive community when it is dying to be taken seriously from top teams.

[MaxiM]

Spoonman wrote..

If CS was a realistic game, then it would be more like Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. No jumping, one to two hit kills, etc... However, CS isn't that realistic. It's the mix between realism and goofy, video-game play that makes CS what it is today.



And maxim, the more I read from you the more I see how you're a blathering idiot.



PS: GG UGS GGOMGROFFLELOLKTHNXHI2UGGG!!!!!!!!1!1111one!!1one! !!



^^^ To clarify, everyone is so FREAKIN excited that UGS made a descision. I'll wager only 1/5 of you that posted that actually play in UGS.

And i thought i can coun't on mature comment from CSN Team mamber. Now i know i was wrong, i suppose it's the way CS community is.

And one more thing: shield being unrealistic is one thing, but being comic is another. Some ppl would defent VALV€ even if they would add jetpacks and bazookas: "It's a part of the game, it was never that realistic".

[rizzuh]

Who the hell cares if it's realistic or not? This is league play. This is serious. You do not remove items of a game in league play just because they're an obstacle. Softball leagues don't remove shortstops just because batters feel disenfranchised.



I don't care if the item was a good addition or not. Leagues should have EVERY DOOR OPEN for teams to compete. Would you support a league banning the dual elites? How about defusers?

[MaxiM]

rizzuh wrote..

No, I'm biased for Counter-Strike. The shield is part of Counter-Strike, whether you like it or not.



Obviously it shouldn't be used until it's fixed, but if or when the shield operates properly then it should be included in league play. The net result of this is that CAL teams will be able to use the shield while UGS teams won't. That is a fracture in the community; UGS should stay away from fracturing the competitive community when it is dying to be taken seriously from top teams.

It seems that i can count on mature comments after all.

Don't get me wrong rizzuh, but i have the feeling you are slightly biased (or maybe you are just tryingto make ppl think more positive on valve). Sometimes it's good, but sometimes not. Shield needs not only bugfixes, but some major balancing (i.e. slower movement, more AWP-like). Removing it from de_maps would be the best move in balancing it.

[rizzuh]

Perhaps the item still has exploits and shouldn't be used in league play. However, the reason cited was community feedback: "A majority of gamers feel that the item isn't a good addition to this level of play and we agree."

[nix]

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Tennovan wrote..

Uh, is it a tactical shield or a riot shield?

Uh its a Panzer shield.

[[PKM]GenocideS1]

Shield Rocks

Awp Blows



All this Bitching About the shield suxing are the guys who whore the Awp All fricken day.

[thrombose]

Maxim, stop replying. Everyone has their own set of opinions, and whatever you or rizzuh or fanboy spoonman says, no one will change their mind.



Just to put one argument, wheter or not CS is unrealistic, the Shield is completely unrealistic to the CS gameplay.

Proof:

1) AWP, AK and COLT crosses walls, even thick 4 feet walls.

2) AWP, AK and COLT cannot cross a Riot Shield (which cant be thicker than 3 inches).



Now this is unrealistic to CS.