hands-on: cs:cz

[3a5tw00D]

no, your right.

well written article with good intentions, but once you realize what they've done...



it's just sad to see such a good game fall back down so bad (hopefully I'm wrong and valve will at least re-incorporates the stuff somehow.)

[|5hadoW Hunte|2]

this is insane... took away all the nice looking models... damn

i liked the player models a lot, but the weapon models were a bit ugly - every gun looked like it was 50 years old and rusting

[azz0r]

I wonder how much itll be through steam. Ill pay £16 max.

[XTRMNTR]

1. I don't work for Valve.



2. The challenges seem different from "everyday pubbing" where we just use Colts, AKs, MP5s, DEs, and AWPs only.



3. I forgot to mention the new weapons.... the Machete, Gas Grenade, Molotov Cocktail, and M60 Machine Gun. the likelihood that the Gas Grenade or Molotov Cocktail makes it to multiplayer, not good.



Yes, I honestly would've loved to seen the improvement in graphics (it's about time) but the point of the single player was the Bot AI, that's what I was trying to get at. As for the game being cheaper, I was hoping we wouldn't get charged $40 or $50 for the game, for a game like Max Payne 2, I could understand, for the total package CS:CZ offers, then they're hoping we just buy out of love for the game.

[|5hadoW Hunte|2]

XTRMNTR wrote..

3. I forgot to mention the new weapons.... the Machete, Gas Grenade, Molotov Cocktail, and M60 Machine Gun. the likelihood that the Gas Grenade or Molotov Cocktail makes it to multiplayer, not good.



Yes, I honestly would've loved to seen the improvement in graphics (it's about time) but the point of the single player was the Bot AI, that's what I was trying to get at. As for the game being cheaper, I was hoping we wouldn't get charged $40 or $50 for the game, for a game like Max Payne 2, I could understand, for the total package CS:CZ offers, then they're hoping we just buy out of love for the game.

i think they only have the riot shield, famas, and galil as new weapons... how sad!! i wanted new toys to play with; at least in single player

[heldorado]

Don't be so quick to assume that we won't be getting new weapons models. This game is fluid with Steam, so they could upload those skins the day of launch for all we know.

[KTRICK7]

ok but heres the thing folks, captianred kinda helped beat into my head, there will still be a few levels origionally done by ritual. we can hope they are quality.



here's whats funny. last month noless they released an ad video that showed ppl repelling out of copters, esplosions, ppl shouting, ducking, falling through crates, choppers crashing, etc...LOTS of action. then less than a month later, they just say ohh...huh...well here is what it REALLY is...and give us 1.7. so im confused there!



oh captainRed, remember one of the first videos, where there is a downed ct and his buddy is dragging him out of the line of fire? THAT was sweet! thats the kinda stuff we need.



and im im really kinda sick of ppl saying that cs is only for mp. cuz thats how it started, yes...but a lot of things can be done with military games that are way cool with this engine, and that was the point. to give cs players a broader world and even make more aspects of cs more intimate. thats why the sp missions were going to be so awsome. gone were the days of mixed ct teams. we had cool suits for the environment.



they arent pleasing the sp community imo. pod bot was for ppl to practice, or play if they couldnt get online. thats cool and needful. and thats why im getting a bit warm towards the new bot system they are talking about. but thats a lame excuse for a sp campaign. sp campaign dont require you to go through the same levels with the sole purpose of a death match with some twists. no..thats not pleasing the sp comunity imo.

[Logikal]

I don't mind the changes with the exception of the increased poly-count models getting scrapped. That part I was most looking forward to.

[Boomstick]

Okay here's the deal, Tony Hawk style, simulated multiplayer challenges: meh, maybe I'd buy it. Same models from 5 years ago (assuming they're not in the game): no fucking way. If I wanted to play with some low def models with a bunch of bots then I'd just play Counter-Strike. Frankly I'm dissapointed that it took them this long to make the game only to go back to the original concept after going through 3 developers.

[3a5tw00D]

man you bring up a good point, I TOTALLY forgot about the ad video.

totally useless now...

something better be up, hopefully after valve gets their shit str8

sad stuff when the leaked older version of CZ is visually better then its final counterpart (hopefully not)

[alvinliu]

EVERYONE KEEP BITCHING UNTIL THEY GIVE US THE NEW MODELS AND WEAPONS !!! DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT RELEASING THE GAME AT IT'S CONDITION RIGHT NOW, WE ALL EXPECT TO HAVE THE NEW MODELS AND WEAPONS !!! PAYING $40 FOR SOMETHING NEW BOTS AND UPGRADED MAPS, PSST, FUCK OUTTA HERE !

[!]

singleplayer will be fun q:

[FLeK0]

alvinliu wrote..

*crying*

what if it's in the game, just not on these shots? I'm sure its in Ritual's 'deleted maps', and you can just put them into multiplayer, or choose like in TFC between the new and oldie le3tkr3ww



I want to know if 'de_dust_cz' etc will be compatible with CS's Dust (after a CS patch or something) or not.-

[jorri]

yes well i think VALVE must be in a pretty difficult position now. bringing out HL2, CS2 and CS:CZ at the same time, or bringing out CZ even later, would totally stop it from being bought. with all the setbacks and their negative comment on steam and the source theft, they probably just felt like they had to publish something. if this means ifa fter 2 years the game will look like its been rushed to make anyway, i don't know. maybe they will use steam to make it better over time. them including ritual's deleted scenes in it means that they totally realise that just the CZ they have now hasn't got enough to offer. one of the screenshots showed the old m4a1 so i guess thats that misunderstanding cleared out of the way. of course, if the new models are in SP, they are in MP too. so they're nowhere.

maybe in the deleted scenes, though that wouldn't make so much sence. even though rizzuh states that there will be some new objects..

why didn't they add ritual's models? maybe ritual didn't allow them to and they had to pay loads of money just to add the deleted scenes?

has gooseman been working along on CZ?

if they use the ritual models for CS2 i would feel even more cheated on because the HL2 engine should be capable of much more.

im not going to buy it, im going to wait for other people to buy it and tell me what it's like.

I don't really blame valve, i think they're pretty cool and not just about making moeney. maybe they listen to us too much and they are all pissed off now, because they tried to give us what they want by means of switching companies 3 times and we're still not happy. so they think, fuck it, lets bring it out anyway, theres just no way of pleasing em all.

[QuickDraw]

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YO GUYS THIS IS COMPELTE BULLSHIT. LOOK AT ALl the early CZ screenshots and works and trailers. ive been anticipating this game for over a year now and fianlly it comes out but they've moved BACKWARDS in development. WHAT a bunch of crap. Look at the OLD screens and trailers, the gfx were a million times better. WHYd they do this!? all the player models and weapon models and maps were so much better, now theyre all DEFAULT!?? someone explain this bs. i dont understand how ALL these fools are saying "wow cz looks so much better now, i change my mind im getting it" look at the EARLIEr versions! THIS just disappoints me so much... i really really really wish stupid valve would give this crap back to ritual (ppl who know what the f*ck theyre doing) and move forward with the game, not just install a f*cking skin pack at the last minute. Quit SPENDINg so much damn time with a stupid bot and ACTAULLy let us buy a NEW game. jesus christ...