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  • Brazil Cheater

    #121
    why?



    So simple... just because I am cheater does not mean I cannot be a CS affictionate...



    I luv new models, new maps, reading everything about tactics, maps, etc.



    I love reading everything about, CS, easter eggs, etc.



    Just because enemy players glow instead of that nice camo uniform, and I have some computer-aimed aim, does not mean I do not like CS stuff.



    CS Nation is an excelent site. Lotsa new stuff here.



    Everyday I have lotsa fun reading the "pic of the day" and I also enjoy the skin of the day.



    Playing with cheats is not what you think it is. Its just like playing without it. Just easier. I still can have fun playing CS. And I still find a lot of challenge playing it.



    Maybe for you you try your best to get a high frag cout... you play all you can so that you can get, say, 17-6.



    Playing with cheats give me just the same challange, just one level above, say 35-5. There is no thing such as "god mode" or "infinite ammo". Once shot, a cheater will also die.



    Computer assisted aiming does not guarantee victory. A good player can kill me before I kill him.



    I still have to press the fire button, press the "aim" button, wait for recoil, crouch if needed, hide, throw HE, etc.



    In fact, it was not commented here, but HLG has an anti-wallhack feature, which prevents the server from sending visual info of a player behind a wall. This is an anti-wallhack scheme that simply cannot be easily beaten. You still can see thru walls, but enemies are not shown.



    Playing without an wallhack is MUCH MORE enjoyable than playing with WH on. But when you have WH capabilities you simply cannot avoid using it. Now that wallhacking is severly handicaped, my game has much more fun than before.



    Now all I use are aimbot, fullbright models (aka Lambert), and colored models.



    To learn more about anti-wallhack feature of HLG check here:



    http://www.unitedadmins.com/HLGuard_WH.aspx



    Thats good to read because many times people are accused of wallhacking in a hlg server, where wallhacking simply cannot be done.



    The bad side of it, is that this feature is very resource-eater, so may lag some low-end-machine servers.



    There are different types of cheaters. One of them is the noob that turns on every OGC function, such as wallhack, autoaim, autoshoot, auto-move, autobuy, auto pistol switch, etc. This turns game very boring. This player badly knows the maps, do not know anything of CS playing. It´s just a walking bot.



    There is the other type of cheaters. Cheaters that just use cheat to make game a bit easier. Some use just colored models, or fullbright models, sometimes aimbot. Those players usually are advanced players, with a lot of knowledge of CS and tatics. This is my case.



    Remember.. a cheater is not a monster... it´s just a person like you...



    Its exactly the case of the "Iron pumping" men (who do exercise at the gym).

    There are the ordinary people, and the ones that use esteroids.

    The guys with esteroyds are MUCH STRONGER, and have MUCH MORE MUSCLES than common ones...

    Yes, they use steroids (drugs) to get an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over other guys at the gym. Still, they still find it very enjoyable going to the gym. Still, they find challenge in lifting weight. Of course, they lift MUCH MORE weight, but they still cannot lift infinite load. Exactly the same.



    Hugs from a friend from Brazil

    brazilcheater@meridia.cjb.net

    icq 300500

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    • mugwamp

      #122
      yeah except the guy who uses steroids ends up with balls the size of bb's, bad example (actually pretty good, just not from your point of view).



      You enjoy reading tactics? Why?
      Brazil Cheater wrote..

      Computer assisted aiming does not guarantee victory. A good player can kill me before I kill him.



      I still have to press the fire button, press the "aim" button, wait for recoil, crouch if needed, hide, throw HE, etc.
      Gee I wish I had an aim button, stop trying to justify yourself, its just pathetic, and I don't care if cheaters are still a part of cs community, or how much you enjoy cs nation. I don't think they should have the right to say anything just as prisoners don't have the right to vote, you forfeited that the minute you decided that cheating was ok.

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      • doctorSSR

        #123
        Edited by [user="15216"] @ [time="1027926335"]

        Brazil Cheater wrote..

        Remember.. a cheater is not a monster... it´s just a person like you...
        I understand THAT, but a cheater wrecks up the Counter-Strike game for everybody....i mean, unless if your opponent is as good as Cre@te, you and the other cheaters jack up the fun that Counter-Strike is meant to be. Many people look down upon Counter-Strike these days is because of the many cheaters in Counter-Strike servers. I mean, go and play a "normal" game w/o your aimbot/wallhack. If you absolutely cannot survive w/o cheats, then I triple dog-dare you to fight the <-spear-> clan. Just you against the rest of them using your cheats. I'm not trying to be mean or flaming you but really, it's my point-of-view of cheaters.



        Thank goodness that CSGuard was invented (including that Valve anti-cheat technology).

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        • McCaffrey

          #124
          Heh BrazilCheater...



          If you think 35-5 is a score we should all be impressed with, think again buddy. I average that almost daily, and I sure as HELL don't cheat. A few days ago I scored 80-2 on a 12 person Dust server, without cheats. If 35-5 is your idea of a good cheating score, you must not be very good at cheating.

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          • Milpool

            #125
            Brazil Cheater wrote..

            why?



            So simple... just because I am cheater does not mean I cannot be a CS affictionate...



            I luv new models, new maps, reading everything about tactics, maps, etc.



            I love reading everything about, CS, easter eggs, etc.



            Just because enemy players glow instead of that nice camo uniform, and I have some computer-aimed aim, does not mean I do not like CS stuff.



            CS Nation is an excelent site. Lotsa new stuff here.



            Everyday I have lotsa fun reading the "pic of the day" and I also enjoy the skin of the day.



            Playing with cheats is not what you think it is. Its just like playing without it. Just easier. I still can have fun playing CS. And I still find a lot of challenge playing it.



            Maybe for you you try your best to get a high frag cout... you play all you can so that you can get, say, 17-6.



            Playing with cheats give me just the same challange, just one level above, say 35-5. There is no thing such as "god mode" or "infinite ammo". Once shot, a cheater will also die.



            Computer assisted aiming does not guarantee victory. A good player can kill me before I kill him.



            I still have to press the fire button, press the "aim" button, wait for recoil, crouch if needed, hide, throw HE, etc.



            In fact, it was not commented here, but HLG has an anti-wallhack feature, which prevents the server from sending visual info of a player behind a wall. This is an anti-wallhack scheme that simply cannot be easily beaten. You still can see thru walls, but enemies are not shown.



            Playing without an wallhack is MUCH MORE enjoyable than playing with WH on. But when you have WH capabilities you simply cannot avoid using it. Now that wallhacking is severly handicaped, my game has much more fun than before.



            Now all I use are aimbot, fullbright models (aka Lambert), and colored models.



            To learn more about anti-wallhack feature of HLG check here:



            http://www.unitedadmins.com/HLGuard_WH.aspx



            Thats good to read because many times people are accused of wallhacking in a hlg server, where wallhacking simply cannot be done.



            The bad side of it, is that this feature is very resource-eater, so may lag some low-end-machine servers.



            There are different types of cheaters. One of them is the noob that turns on every OGC function, such as wallhack, autoaim, autoshoot, auto-move, autobuy, auto pistol switch, etc. This turns game very boring. This player badly knows the maps, do not know anything of CS playing. It´s just a walking bot.



            There is the other type of cheaters. Cheaters that just use cheat to make game a bit easier. Some use just colored models, or fullbright models, sometimes aimbot. Those players usually are advanced players, with a lot of knowledge of CS and tatics. This is my case.



            Remember.. a cheater is not a monster... it´s just a person like you...



            Its exactly the case of the "Iron pumping" men (who do exercise at the gym).

            There are the ordinary people, and the ones that use esteroids.

            The guys with esteroyds are MUCH STRONGER, and have MUCH MORE MUSCLES than common ones...

            Yes, they use steroids (drugs) to get an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over other guys at the gym. Still, they still find it very enjoyable going to the gym. Still, they find challenge in lifting weight. Of course, they lift MUCH MORE weight, but they still cannot lift infinite load. Exactly the same.



            Hugs from a friend from Brazil

            brazilcheater@meridia.cjb.net

            icq 300500
            Dude I had no trouble with your posts until this one. Don't f*cking make yourself out to be more than you are. You say you are an "advanced cheater" ? Granted, compared to a lot of other n00b cheaters, but you're definitely not any better than them, a cheater is a cheater. Why are you trying to tell us (the non-cheaters) how hard you have it? Why should I f*cking care that you have to "press fire, press the 'aim' button, crouch..." no matter what you have to do, us non-cheaters will still always have it harder than you. That's like me going up to a person dieing of cancer and complaining how I stubbed my toe today.



            And your analogy with the gym and the guys with steroids is really bad. It doesn't matter if the guys use steroids for themselves, but if those guys who took steroids fought/raced/whatever the guys who don't use steroids, there would be an unfair advantage. If you want to protest that, then why do you think you cannot use any type of physical enhancements in sporting events. You say how seriously you take CS, like any other "CS'er" then why don't you respect the rules?

            I don't like cheaters, or cheating, but I still feel they have a right to voice their opinion. Just don't try to make yourself out to be more than you are, which is a cheater, a rule-breaker and someone with complete lack of respect for cyberathletics.

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            • OldFukinCripple

              #126
              Excuse me while I laugh my ass off. I don't cheat...i tried to once in like beta 6 or so but i couldn't get that shit to work..ahha. Anyway, i am an old school cs player (beta one and up). I am also a "clean" player (no cheats). But guess what, I have a complete lack of respect for cyberathletics too, but I guess i have a complete lack of respect for a lot of things. I have played long enough to realize that cheaters are just a part of the game, just another obstacle, another guy you have to kill as quickly as you can. Actually, what amused me even more than the cheaters spouting off about this and that was McCaffrey bragging about how good he is. He is the type of player I dislike more than a cheater. A score whore. 80-2 on some newbie server camping your spawn with an awp...simply amazing. It's a team game, I would rather play with people willing to be killed to help a team win. I would rather play with people who enjoy more than one aspect of the game. When you think about who is really elite in this game, you think about clans, teams, 3d, TSO, and all those skanks from skankdinavia. No one ever thinks about wow...McCaffrey is so good. Ok that was my bitch post.

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              • KnowHow

                #127
                Edited by [user="31055"] @ [time="1027981420"]

                Darkhorse wrote..

                cheats are cool.

                we've all tried them.



                If we hadn't.

                They wouldn't exist.
                So that fact that drugs exists means we alle tried them?... war? rapings? bullriding?



                Idiot...
                Darkhorse wrote..

                My room's pretty private.
                Stupidity comes in many forms... this is one of the more obvious ones...

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                • -=h0M3gR0wN=-

                  #128
                  I've been playing since 1.3, so that doesn't make me an immediate qualifier for the standard "n00b", but for the life of me I just don't get it. Why would you cheat in a team oriented game? Yeah, I've seen a few statswhores in my times, but I like playing as a group. I know I suck, but I'm on Cable with a new Area 51, and let me tell you, if I go 2:1, I feel like the baddest mf'er on the planet. I can't understand why you would even play and cheat, because it's kind of like a tainted benchmark of you vs. the entire CS community. "yeah, I'm better than you, but it took OGC for it to happen" What kind of hollow victory is that?

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                  • Milpool

                    #129
                    OldFukinCripple wrote..

                    Excuse me while I laugh my ass off. I don't cheat...i tried to once in like beta 6 or so but i couldn't get that shit to work..ahha. Anyway, i am an old school cs player (beta one and up). I am also a "clean" player (no cheats). But guess what, I have a complete lack of respect for cyberathletics too, but I guess i have a complete lack of respect for a lot of things. I have played long enough to realize that cheaters are just a part of the game, just another obstacle, another guy you have to kill as quickly as you can. Actually, what amused me even more than the cheaters spouting off about this and that was McCaffrey bragging about how good he is. He is the type of player I dislike more than a cheater. A score whore. 80-2 on some newbie server camping your spawn with an awp...simply amazing. It's a team game, I would rather play with people willing to be killed to help a team win. I would rather play with people who enjoy more than one aspect of the game. When you think about who is really elite in this game, you think about clans, teams, 3d, TSO, and all those skanks from skankdinavia. No one ever thinks about wow...McCaffrey is so good. Ok that was my bitch post.
                    I agree with you, and it's anyone's choice if they want to take CS and other online games seriously or not. I don't think it really makes a difference how long you've been playing CS, after a few years, it's generally all the same stuff, but with new n00bs. I especially agree with you on the team thing, most CS'ers don't realize that it is a team-oriented game when they first start playing it, and it may take a few years for them to realize this or maybe even not ever. It's nice to have a good score, as long as you've earned it, i.e not cheating. yeah...

                    I started playing in 1.0, right after the beta versions, and I cared a lot more about my score then than I do now. I still see that in tons of players, ignoring objectives, and sacrificing their team or even one teammate for their own well being - just so they can say they've got a decent score. Well that won't get you very far. Practicing teamwork will help you, your team and your score a lot more in the long-run.

                    I guess this is a tip for most clans, and generally anyone who doesn't already understand it.

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                    • Omicr0n

                      #130
                      well i thought it was a great article

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                      • don dada

                        #131
                        i also

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                        • stooopid

                          #132
                          cheating is back!!!

                          w00t

                          Brazil Cheater wrote..
                          There are different types of cheaters. One of them is the noob that turns on every OGC function, such as wallhack, autoaim, autoshoot, auto-move, autobuy, auto pistol switch, etc. ... It´s just a walking bot.
                          ... now thats the spirit ...

                          This is so much fun...
                          I've got 70-0 with this style...
                          rapeness!!!

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                          • Crapola5

                            #133
                            Yeah, cheating-death worked perfectly and I think it was the combination of cheating-death and hlguard that stopped ogc.

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                            • cheech ans chong

                              #134
                              hello cs fans. i love cs but my game is messed up cant .connect to anyhting please help. my aim name is wantedhl
                              sorry to csnatin for not going by the rules on dos and do nots.
                              csnation is the leading source.
                              my yahoo chat isname is cheech_and_chong
                              plz help

                              hello cs fans. i love cs but my game is messed up cant .connect to anyhting please help. my aim name is wantedhl
                              sorry to csnatin for not going by the rules on dos and do nots.
                              csnation is the leading source.
                              my yahoo chat isname is cheech_and_chong
                              plz help

                              hello cs fans. i love cs but my game is messed up cant .connect to anyhting please help. my aim name is wantedhl
                              sorry to csnatin for not going by the rules on dos and do nots.
                              csnation is the leading source.
                              my yahoo chat isname is cheech_and_chong
                              plz help

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                              • Milpool

                                #135
                                Man, shut up.
                                You can't even spell your own name right let-alone half the words in that paragraph.
                                Go back to your yahoo chat and find some idiot there to bug.

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