CPL uses CS 1.4

[rizzuh]

Edited by [user="2065"] @ [time="1021693981"]

Than you should? It was a physics bug! You "should" have walked the same speed in every direction and now you do.



Give me a break guys, if there was a bug that allowed planting through walls and every clan started doing it, there'd be just as much as an uproar when it was removed.



To win Valve over, you can't insist that they did something incorrect or wrong. You're going to have to say that the walking speed needs to be increased to add more speed, or whatever your viewpoint is.

[GonePostal]

Everyone expects changes rizzuh. But when the CS team says there will be no major changes to CS and 1.4 comes out with several major changes, there are going to be people that are surprised about this.

Added @ [time="1021694507"]

Like I said. It's lower than it should be. I never said they were wrong. But they should raise it. Less camping, faster pace. What's the downside? That physics bug has been there for quite a while. Not saying that I miss it but they neglected to consider how people have used this bug for so long and how it has formed the gameplay. If it has formed the gameplay a certain way, Valve should try to retain that same gameplay that makes CS so popular. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

[rizzuh]

Edited by [user="2065"] @ [time="1021694842"]

The CS team has never stated that there wouldn't be any major changes. CS 1.1, for example, had a major nerf of the AWP, which was the biggest split in the community before CS 1.4.



Oh, and I don't see this amazing amount of camping that you seem to experience. Why is my game so much different from yours? I just don't understand why you'd even play CS if you don't like 1.4, so I don't hold your statements about spin-off changes with any credibility. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[GonePostal]

Maybe you don't visit the CS forums very often but in the I/S forums, it was stated by the moderators that there would be no major changes to CS. If they don't speak for the CS team, not my fault for misunderstanding.

[rizzuh]

I fear that they don't, but they are half right. They probably mean that no new weapons or gameplay modes will be added to CS besides CS: CZ stuff. While I concede that jumping is a major change to the game, it's not such a major change to me personally (I adapted very quickly). So I guess that major in this context is subjective.

[RockSteady]

rizzuh wrote..

nerf

you're nerf happy lately.

[rizzuh]

Mommy makes me use them because the TV went boom with orange light.

[GonePostal]

Well, they knew that there would be no new weapons because there is an engine limit to the number of models or something like that. This was after 1.1 was released and the only real changes that were expected were bug fixes and anti cheats. So I don't think they were just referring to weapons and game modes. They were pretty clearly talking about major gameplay changes. But since they don't even fully represent the CS team it is nonsense.



I don't play 1.4 anymore besides matches for a tourney I joined before 1.4 came out. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't be playing. I still play 1.3 if I find servers with people on them, but that is rare. Maybe you don't see the camping because you aren't competing? The point of competing is to win. The point of pubbing is to have fun. If you want to win, you sure aren't going to rush into a bunch of waiting CTs. Best strategy is to camp unless you want to lose. If you want to have fun, most people don't care about rushing because people are trying to have fun. Camping gets boring so you won't see it very much. This update favors pubs more than competition.

[Gundanium]

WOW 3D AND TAU WALK IN MATCHES WOW THEY ARE SKILLED AND ADAPTED OR THEY JUST DO IT SO THEY DONT FUCKING DIE NO MATTER HOW SLOW IT IS, DURRRRRRRR

[RockSteady]

postal, there will be hella new weapons for cstrike when cz is released. i'm talking hella new weapons.



http://csnation.counter-strike.net/view...fo/weapon.csn

[Sgt. X]

And of coarse what was simple post about what version of CS CPL would be using has turned into a 1.3 vs 1.4 battle.



I support 1.4, I never jumped much anyway only when i had to get on top of something. The para is now a proper machine gun, don't belive just open up full auto on some one and charge em while strafing. Its theriputic. The 1 thing i dislike is the changes to pistol accuracy. I can't use a pistol any more so i basicly have to wait for reload instead. But 9 time outof 10 if u tried switching to the pistol after running out of ammo in ur primary clip u were dead any way.

[JewToTheRescue]

I fucking love 1.4 as well and don't see why the CPL even had the poll on what version to use. Regardless of what people think of it, its counter-strike. Hell, 1.4 even helped the CPL out a litlle with this command "cl_minmodels 1". I use it all the time and it makes CS so much more enjoyable (only because the l337 krew and gign models are so fucking sweet). The only thing I dislike about 1.4 is the wait before you can use your weapon when switching, although it does make sense. It screws over my sniping cuz I like to fire a shot and immidiately pull my pistol so I can put a round or 2 into the enemy if I got a legshot. But oh well, its only like .5 seconds longer so Ive adjusted. Now if only I could hook up with one of the clans going to the CPL.

[Gundanium]

You guys never jumped because you are frigging newbies.. you dont see the advantage and thats why you always die more, it was more skillful to jump and mess people up with your pistol. they need to put quick switch and pistol accuracy back in.

[Spoonman]

Here come my 2 cents... at least change the major problem of going through windows. You have to jump to do it, and if you get caught on the window sill (which still happens to me) you're a sitting duck. I've seen a lot of people meet their end on that window in Prodigy (including me.) Same goes for Italy and being a CT. It is a lot harder to take that house now that the boxes up to the window option is pretty much gone. I'm not saying that they should change anything in 1.4, just update some of the maps a little bit.

[-=cw=-/i/oIr]

I agree with gundanium...you are friggin newbies. Every real pro player i have met since the release has come up with the following words:



"cs1.4 is a newbie mod"



None of the guys who go for cs1.4 have ever reached a level where they are actually MORE dangerous with just a pistol than there bog standard shitty, boring m4....I actually buy my pistol before i buy my primary and if i cant afford a rifle i go for a fast switch smg....



Jumping is the greatest skill in cs - not those morons who just jump about madly all the time - they will get pinned down by any pro - im talking about the ones who will jump on your head when you crouch, jump-turn around you and accross your face, jump crouch to your feet and strafe up your entire body, jumpaccross a gap to get behind you....that skill you have killed off because of your blatent ignorance - all I can say is that its your loss in the end because you will never get the rush of being unkillable only by a lucky hs....go on then play your stupid cs1.4 mod....be a newbie amoungst newbies...

Added @ [time="1021713423"]

spoonman - there is a method to get throuch windows without being stopped at all:



jump crouch well b4 you reach the window at full speed - then you will slide right through the window at full speed...might be a bit slower when you get out cos of the gay mod but you wont be pinned in like a sitting duck for newbies (as we usually are in the newbie mod)