CS 1.4 Poll

[gemini]

Andeh wrote..

I also agree on this. Very bad idea to remove being able to move while planting the bomb. Not very realistic and I think Valve made a bad move here.

mmm, I don't think you'll be jumping around when your setting a timer on a C4 bomb.

[Andeh]

Edited by [user="20894"] @ [time="1019818551"]

gemini wrote..

mmm, I don't think you'll be jumping around when your setting a timer on a C4 bomb.

I didnt mean jumping around. I meant "start planting and the move out into the open so you can see when a CT is defusing it" I think a good idea would be to alow moving but not jumping while planting the bomb. = perfect imo

[[TuF]SpeeeD]

For the most part I find 1.4 very fun, however there are certain aspects that I feel need to be adressed, and could have been solved better. I like that we don't have people jumping all over the place, but I can't stand the immobility of jumping onto boxes, over railings, etc.... I think the first jump should be without a stall, but another jump within a close time period would hinder that players movement. I'm all for the elimination of fast walk because I never used it to begin with. I am against using binds/scripts that give me an unfair advantage over someone who may not know how to use them. I have always been a walker though, and now my game is completely out the window because frankly, the walk speed is ridiculously slow. I would also like to be able to tap the run button to walk a little faster without making sound. It is impossible to do now, and in 1.3 if you messed up, you would make a footstep or two and give your posiion away, so it was not flawless. Is this disabled to prevent lamers from making scripts to do that for them? Anyways, sorry for my incoherent rambling. I am loving the new version because it makes the game "fresh" almost like a new game. Hopefully someone will take the ideas I have to heart.



Enjoy cs for what it is......a game. :)

[Anist]

I think what a lot of this comes down to is the following arguments:



1. Should we be allowed to whine about a game that isnt ours[as in gooses and his team], and doesnt cost?



2. Who do we blame?



3. Are the CS team allowed to have a go at us for not liking it[bearing in mind they listen to beta testers and spend ages making the thing]?



4. Are we bitching or are we making valid points?



(1) OK, i seem to remember a statement from gooseman somewhere with words to the effect that he made CS for himself to play, not anyone else. No one is denying that goose had that right as a mod maker-but thats not what CS is anymore. I myself went and bought the retail just cos i liked the mod and thought they deserved the cash, but by taking our money-they are now part of a business with valve, and they have to listen to the customers dont they? So, yeah.... whining is definitely valid, if you want people to play your game, then you cant tell them to f off no matter how many customers you have.[sorry phyx but we dont have to live with it]. I know the cs guys get whined and messaged and aggrevated all the time when a release comes out, but maybe they might admit they could of done something different as no ones perfect and if it was right they wouldnt have to keep patching it[maybe thats to do with cheaters-another discussion].



2. Blame.... just dont bother blaming anyone. So many people are involved with the CS game now that you cant assign blame to any one group or individual. Plus it isnt really on, some of us may have payed for the priviledge to play[retail cs] but it doesnt mean you should act like an arsehole. Everyone is human.



3. The CS team dont really have a go at us id say. Maybe i worded that wrong, but they do seem isolated from the public even with beta testers and what not. Id just like the chance to talk to them once in a while as im sure everyone else would. Perhaps a monthly open IRC chat, i know they're busy but we arent all idiots[<--opinion].



4. When you have as many comments about 1.4 as this, and you read every single one then by the time you are done you may be inclined to suggest that people are getting a little stressy on the subject and are heading towards ranting bitching. OK sure, but notice the following; that the vast majority of these comments are negative [if you like it would you bother to comment though?], and most of them are trying to answer peoples questions. Taking an overall survey by poll wouldnt hurt the situation obviously, but maybe csnation readers are biased. The point is, it doesnt really matter which it is, as all peoples points are valid. So please read them all properly and dont just point reject them.



Well, thats what i have to say on the matter, it doesnt really come to a conclusion, but take your own from it. Im not going to say if i like jumping changes or not as it really isnt important what i think. What the community thinks is.

[Nesto]

I voted no, because i really think it required skill to jump, aim at head and make a hs with a deagle, and stealth is sort of gone now too, because ppl cant be arsed to walk like a 80 year old man to walk silently. I have been playing 1.4 two days now and i think i got used to it. But that's just the point: i got used to it, but not because i like it more now. For all the ppl saying newbies can own now, part of that is true because luck has become a bigger factor in the game, but still experience wins in the end, trust me :). i dont think they will change it back, so we just gotta live with it dont we?

[*weedmasta*]

Edited by [user="803"] @ [time="1019821977"]

POTD suckage as usual, get someone with an understanding of humor please....Back to topic. I knew the jumping would change CS in a good way and it did. There is no need to make any fuss about it. Finally no more bunny-hopping-spray-lucky-triple-headshot-kills...


.NO MORE :)

And i agree with one of the posts earlier. Worry about the cheats!



And Nesto if you wanna hump around like a psyco rocker at a rock concert take my advice and go play Quake or summin.

[Andeh]

Nesto wrote..

i dont think they will change it back, so we just gotta live with it dont we?

Yes your right. We should just live with it because its obvious now they wont change it back

[decidence]

I've been playing CS pretty much non-stop since Beta 3.1 (October 99') and I pretty much love 1.4



I think its a great step forward and it eliminates the amount of times I yell "Jumping BS Deathmatch Crap" when I get BS killed... albeit I did the Jumping BS Deathmatch Crap as well, but I "had" to. But my playing style has always fit the way 1.4 seems to be targetted to and I am enjoying it. Takes alot more skill to win a gunfight now as you have to have fast reflexes and good aim, not like in 1.3 when all you had to be able to do was have the ability to jump non-stop.



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[Konador]

I totallt agree with both these changes. Bunnyhopping sucked full stop, and speedwalking was a bug. The walking is now how it was originally intended. The point of walking is to sacrafice speed for stealth.

[prophet805]

"Takes alot more skill to win a gunfight now as you have to have fast reflexes and good aim, not like in 1.3 when all you had to be able to do was have the ability to jump non-stop."



Um, yeah



Not to mention being able to hit them while jumping non-stop. Is that aim?

[Goo5ey]

I would've voted yes, but for some reason I can't vote again - it happens every other poll, I think mah cookies are busted

[Moloch]

Edited by [user="24988"] @ [time="1019824413"]

Stop moaning...

It is only a new version. It is understandable that we all have new things to learn, beggining by moving...

In one month, we will all claim CS is the best game ever

[Half-Pint]

CS is not Quake nor has it ever been. The game has been constantly changing its design since it's inception back in beta 1. The fact that the game keeps changing is the reason I keep playing, I hate how other games are static as soon as they leave the door.



Now I don't know about you, but I plan on actually playing the game before I judge it. And by play I mean more than a 24 hour time period. I figure I will have a good opinion of the changes in a few weeks and honestly I don't think anyone else will until they have trully played the game for a few weeks.



Congratulations to Rizzuh, Once again CS-Nation had the leets links to download the patch.

[-=cw=-/i/oIr]

I have to say that I and the other mambers of my clan don't like cs1.4 that much. I just get the impression that it's a mod tailor made to make the game far easier for newbies to kill those top players - you know the ones who seem to be able to dodge bullets matrix style. I've worked hard to get up to a level where i can charge 3 guys with an usp, get 1 in the head then pull out a mac10 at 4m, move so there in a line and the guy behind is shooting his m8t in the back then carve the both of them into pate with 1 15 bullet burst.



I can understand the plight of newbies since once i was one too but being able to get 20-0 when playing 2v1 is what I play this game for. Newbies learn fast and pretty soon they can handle themselves pretty well too - giving them a sense of rewardment.



The features I dislike are:



-Stagered hopping (I can still hop just as well however by having .5s pauses between hops and infact slowing me down stabalises my fire..and makes me less predictable to a newbie- much more to a pro with an ak howeversince he will just put his hair on the landing spot and say chau)



-pistol kickback (wtf: pistol kills are in my mind only second to knives and you decide to make them effectively useless - pistols were the only gun you could use when charging an opponent as supresive fire - what do you want me to do now vs that guy at lr - wave at him with my knife as he carves me up or hs me. I wouldnt mind kickback while jumping but while running is just stupid)



Anyway my main concern is the pistols guys... somethisn noone seems to have noticed.



features i like:



- pretty much everything else so far including the anti-cheat stuff that the game now apparently has - ive certainly noticed that there are far fewer peeps around killing me b4 i even see them...



Thanks for your hard work on the mod guys but i just wish you had taken the minority more into account

[crucial`]

@rizzuh * important *

Would you please change the question, so that non native english-speaking people can understand it easily!

Like "Do you like 1.4 Jumping and Walking?" or smth like that.

That would be very very nice. thx :)