CS 1.4 Release date

[FRY]

FatboyTim wrote..

As a player from the early betas, I welcome the changes made to the jumping. This is afterall, a game which is meant to represent conflicts between real-life terrorists and counter-terrorists. (Rather than gun wielding kangaroos versus cyborg ninja grasshoppers.)



Does the release of CSv1.4 also mean that we will also see HLv1.1.0.8 at the same time?

wtf? maybe that maybe tru but its a fucking G A M E, all these people saying "o its suppose to be more realistic" well we will see how much you like your realism when all you do is run around then see a awper go to jump and dodge, stop with 1 jump and get killed. we will see how much more you like your "realisticness" then n00b.



BTW here is a point ive never seen brought up, not only is jumping a good tactic to keep from getting hit, but it takes up time. like say when you are ther last ct and there is one t, you run around the map looking for them... what else is there to do i ask you?? the experiance ive had with 1.4 hasnt been a good one mainly for that reason, i found myself getting bored because there was nothing to do but run, and run, and ruuuun... what fun is that?

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adamxx32 wrote..

1.4 is geared to newbies who dont know wtf CS is..



They make crosshairs all gay now to show idiot newbs not to jump and shoot at the same time.. and to always duck.. pretty pointless..



This jumping and only getting a full jump per 1-2 sec is lame..



also planting the bomb completly still is fucking lame.. overall.. CS = great for newbies named "Player".

Tru that, since cs has gone retail both the cs team and now valve have been accomidating to the n00b retail whores(you know who you are) and the people who have been playing for years, the players who brought counter-strike to what it has become, the gamers who have carried it on their backs since the early beta stages are getting thrown aside..



>>GA1.4<< >>Gamers Against 1.4<<

**Stop the Hun of 1.4, ruining cs in less than a week**

[FRY]

street wrote..



Oh but i forgot, now that cs has been retail the cs team has to accomidate for the little children that really have no skillz and dont want to put in the time and energy to get good at the game.



As opposed to catering to the long time player who think that repeatedly hammering the jump key and spraying their Mp5 at me makes them good players.



I don't mind getting killed in CS unless it's by some tosser who looks like they are in spasm...

If you had any skillz at all you wouldnt care if the other player was jumping, crouching or flying because if you had skillz you would be able to keep your sights on them. You are basically saying that "**Sniff its too hard for me, plz change it so all you have to do is stand and shoot(maybe crouch) because im not good enough to keep my sights on a moving target."



thats what seperates a noob from someone l33t is the ability too pull a headshot out of any position no matter what, but o' wait i forgot that takes too much time and the retail whores dont want to take it.



>>GA1.4<< >>Gamers Against 1.4<<

**Stop the Hun of 1.4, ruining cs in less than a week**

[Solitude]

I really hope 1.4 is release next week and steam will become obsolete! Steam is so annoying! Will 1.4 be released just like 1.3 was? Also, everyone who says that cs 1.4 sucks because of this and that just sucks themselves and cannot play without 1.3's cheapness. If you can't handle the changes in 1.4 then maybe you aren't as good of a player as you think you are. If you owned in 1.3 and completely suck in 1.4 then you really don't know how to play the game. People like The12rapist and Gpig20 and gobd and StealthMonkey and anyone else who put down valve's work are just fags who suck at this game. GO CRY TO YOUR MOTHERS YOU FAGS.

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gemini wrote..

i think it'll be better for balance: skilled players will have some difficulties and newbies will have it a little easier to get some kills.

it'll make the game more even

Why should a newbie have any chance at all, it used to be a noob meant to get your ass kicked because you werent good, but you really liked the game so you played and played and played because you had something to strive for, and one day (months later) you found yourself killing the same l33t people who had killed you when you were a noob and it gave you a great feeling of gratification that all those hours you put into it have made a difference. You say it makes it more even i call it...

The cs team and valve accomidating to n00bs and throwing out the veterens.



>>GA1.4<< >>Gamers Against 1.4<<

**Stop the Hun of 1.4, ruining cs in less than a week."

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g0d|sPEED wrote..

Hmmm... Various points of View have been displayed, however...



I think there is more to the additions, then the reasons, its for the n00bs. I think its from the abuse that the people have displayed, to the game. Example, allowing people to move has allowed people to plant the bomb in de_dust2 behind the box, making it un defusable? Is this fair, for the CT's. Imagine in an important clan match, and all the CT's kill all the T's, however... unable to diffuse the bomb? Instant WIN?? Is that fair? Look, maybe we can fix problems like these, with map fixes and no delay once a player has left the bomb site plant area.



Jumping, well... This may cause problems to people, who have based their entire cs, tactics around jumping. One Jump is very harsh, as Jumping has been the only thing saving my ass, from AWP's. I reckon, CS, will now turn into AWP heaven, as all these players, will now most likely be stationary for the AWPer, if they are going to have an addition as the jumping, then the AWP must be hindered in some way, to create fairness... Because Aztec, will change into de_AWP. People are just gonna keep whining.



Hmmm, I was a jumper, but sometimes you just have to take like a man, some of you need to stop whining. Just play the damn thing, im pretty sure some of you have better things to do, then form an alliance against 1.4. Valve are just trying to make it more strict in gameplay. See, they gave you and inch you took 3 inches, they give you 2 inches, you go 5, they give you a rope and you want to be f*cking cowboy.



People also have to remember, that everyone has the disadvantage. Not just you, people who jumped before will also have to change. So... n00bs will be n00bs... They always cry, they call people hackers, and they assume, that they are the best. Let the little pussies, go. It comes down to the aiming and shooting of the gun, and not the rate of how people jump.



Hmm... Im open for critism after that one... :P DAMN!

I agree with most of what you say, and i think im trying to express the feeling of many people ive heard talking about the whoreness of 1.4. as for what you say about jumping... well but you over look the fact that ittakes much skill to be able to jump and fly circles around an enemy plus keep your sights on them. I have for years now taken many many hours and done drills to improve my aiming while jumping. being as simple as spraying a tag on the ground and jumping around trying in vein to keep my sights on it. its a hard thing to do but thats 1 thing that seperates l33t players from n00bs. They are taking that away from us vets.



>>GA1.4<< >>Gamers Against 1.4<<

[gemini]

I think new players often don't get a fair game, players with skill often team up en just always kill a lesser team, thats not fun to me. even as the winning team. There's no more strategy or anything involved, skilled players just jump and kill.

If newbies get a chance, they'll find i more fun and the community can grow.



btw if you are really skilled,you should be able to kill the newbs without jumping too.



I say 'Give the new guy a chance'

[gemini]

sry for not spell-checking, am working right now so typing on gogogo speed.

[FRY]

gemini wrote..

I think new players often don't get a fair game, players with skill often team up en just always kill a lesser team, thats not fun to me. even as the winning team. There's no more strategy or anything involved, skilled players just jump and kill.

If newbies get a chance, they'll find i more fun and the community can grow.



btw if you are really skilled,you should be able to kill the newbs without jumping too.



I say 'Give the new guy a chance'

Why? why should a n00b get that chance, why shouldnt they have to put in time and energy into getting good? And you say that if you're good you should be able to kill someone without jumping...NO SHIT but if you need to jump that option is always there, plus you still have the means to dodge awpers, now your gonna get to dodge then how? one guy earlier in this forums said youll have to rely on fb and smoke..LoL lets say your in the water in aztec with a ct in the bombsite awping.. big ass water area what good is a fb or smoke going to do? i laugh.



>>GA1.4<< >>Gamers Against 1.4

[Jsunu]

Whats done is done.. No stupid email petion will some valve from releasing 1.4 and no you can't stop ppl from playing 1.4.



If you except the changes now there less chance of hating cs altogether in the future.

[FatboyTim]

FRY wrote..

FatboyTim wrote..

As a player from the early betas, I welcome the changes made to the jumping. This is afterall, a game which is meant to represent conflicts between real-life terrorists and counter-terrorists. (Rather than gun wielding kangaroos versus cyborg ninja grasshoppers.)



Does the release of CSv1.4 mean that we will also see HLv1.1.0.8 at the same time?



wtf? maybe that maybe tru but its a fucking G A M E, all these people saying "o its suppose to be more realistic" well we will see how much you like your realism when all you do is run around then see a awper go to jump and dodge, stop with 1 jump and get killed. we will see how much more you like your "realisticness" then n00b.

LMAO! What part of "as a player from the early betas" didn't you understand? "n00b" - LOL! :-P

[BK3]

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[bic]

I've seen everyone saying 1.4 sucks etc... Well heres my opinion I've stated it many times and no one has commented on it...



I started playing counter-strike in beta 2, back in the gun running days, the days when you could have 3 HE nades etc... I understood through the beta releases in the game that the gameplay or feel would possibly change, and it did a few times. But heres where I disagree with 1.4, when a game is released for retail purposes it means the product is ready, or as other people would like to say FINISHED. Valve is the only company I know of to change the entire feel of their games when the game has been released to retail.



The gameplay in 1.3 is fun and great. In 1.4 its actually easier to kill for me, but it took alot of the fun away.



This is my opinion, and I believe its alot of other peoples opinions, I know someone is probably going to flame me about it.

[SHRIMP-FRIED-RICE]

Lets just bring out 1.4 and play already. Whats with all the minor adjustments you realy dont care about anyways? Lets just see the outcome and if you dont like it, tough!

[gemini]

am just saying that new players have it VERY hard now, that might change with 1.4 and I think thats good.



and about tha AWP thing, I think you're right about that: the maps will probably have to change too, to give more ways to avoid sniping areas and get to your objective some other way. The older maps such as aztec could become AWP maps, but new ones will probably be for good close combat.