CS 1.6: Shield, FAMAS, Galil

[Kevin Laity]

This is welcome news, the first major change to CS in a LONG time.

[taffer]

CyberKnite wrote..

And isn't the DE an Israeli weapon?

Not exactly - a company called Magnum Research in the USA makes it, but Israeli Military Industries (IMI) provided most of the engineering know how (mainly the construction of the gas parts - rare for a pistol to be gas operated). That's why their badge appears on some DEagles.



In short - it's an American handgun designed with a large Israeli input.

[xep]

loki` wrote..

the awp can penetrate if u read the site, PISTOLS SUB-MACS and SHOTGUNS u lazy eyed bastid, and it makes perfect sense when ur guardin midpoints and bombsites. what if they all rush u, ya, what what, exactly

Well, you're almost not a dumbass.



How often does a full team rush without penetrating weapons? This shield may be very useful in match play when your enemy is doing a save round, but then again, you get stuck with a five-seven, which makes it seem like having the shield is more of a disadvantage if you have to carry that horrible excuse for a weapon. Planning to hit anything? Then you'd better be standing close enough to your enemy to count polygons, because you'll hit nothing at long range. And if you can't stop your enemy from afar, then chances are they'll come to you. I know it's a long shot, but maybe people will WALK AROUND THE SHIELD and shoot the guy in the back..



I can see perfectly the confusion a shield would cause in a public server, as a whole rushing team suddenly becomes stationary to shoot their glocks at a shield. But that's what public servers are for, to watch morons do stupid things over and over, right?

Dangki wrote..

It will be great if you can reload the 5-7 and use the shield at the same time.

Yes, but apparently, humans usually only have two hands.



Welcome to kindergarten.

[zeusDgod]

I dunno if this has been mentioned but I read the first page and I got tired, so here's what I know/imagined in a dream about CZ weapons.



CT shield stops small arms ammo (Pistol, SMG) and slows assault rifle rounds. Therefore we assume it won't stop AWP.



T's have the molotove cocktail as CT have shield. And if used in conjunction with gas mask, Ts can drink gasoline and set themselves on fire. Ok so I lied about the last part, but think about it. :|



Gas grenade/Gas Mask are universal items both teams can buy. A can of Goya beans could do the same job if you ask me, but you didn't ask me...no one ever does.

[Dangki]

You don't hold the shield with your hand you have it strapped to your forearm. At least I assume you do with tihs one but then I know just a little more than nothing about riot shields.

[FeralWolf]

Ghengis [$ton3d] wrote..

UK2 net use Teargas instead of Smoke on their oh so laggy servers.. It downs damage by 5 per exposure time (dont know the variable) then it recovers in clear air...

[=[FT]= Jackal]

garry wrote..

shield should come in useful on dust for the cts at a being awped down the tunnel by a n%b etc

Umm, they said it can block small arms (pistols, shotguns, smgs) and that is will make assault rifles less deadly so i'm guessing like two shots with the awp will do the trick again the sheild

[icer-]

The Village Idiot wrote..

*General comment feature rant*



Rizzuh, you should make it somehow so that when you "mark" a comment, it'll carry over to the next page so you can read through all the comments and quote the ones you want when you get to the end of it. I was gonna comment on several people to mock them and tell them how stupid they are, but my marks dissappeared on the last page and I'm too lazy to go back and find them again. :-P

Soooo.... yeah, if you're feeling lonely and need something to pass the time with, maybe give it a shot coding something to fix this? :-D

You can fix this by changing the number of comments on each page... (on your preferences page)

Kevin Laity wrote..

This is welcome news, the first major change to CS in a LONG time.

True, but that's because of the fact that CS is no longer in it's beta stages. Beta stages are for all the big changes to the game and it's gameplay.

[MikeJ]

taffer wrote..

If only people stopped playing CS like Quake and use tactics (like tic tacs, but the other way round) it might work. In other words, it won't. 10/10 for the thought though.

Counter-strike has to be played a certain way, and unfortunately that way is nothing like real counter-terrorism encounters. Watch some CAL-I demos. I'm not sure where the shield is going to fit in...But I'm hoping it does

[rizzuh]

The FiveseveN is about as useless as any other pistol that isn't the desert eagle in a round past the third.



So, yeah, the shield probably won't be all that useful unless some clever teamplay tricks happen. And since CS is such a rifle-oriented game, it won't be that useful in general.

But it's not like usefulness really matters in pub games.

[EVA | Dick Justice]

Wow. This almost makes me want to play CS less than Narby's new aztec. I hate you guys.

[CyberKnite]

rizzuh wrote..

So, yeah, the shield probably won't be all that useful unless some clever teamplay tricks happen. And since CS is such a rifle-oriented game, it won't be that useful in general.

Isn't it possible to create maps that only allow the purchase of certain weapons (the two 'official' as maps spring to mind, but is that because of the game type rather than individual map settings?)? Because then people could specify which guns were available on which maps (which makes sense to me, surely you wouldn't use M4s in light urban assaults?) and thus the usefulness of the shield could be increased - perhaps some of the higher number pistols (4,5,6) would then be used more often as well?



Of course then you would probably end up with the same situation as you have with oilrig and tundra - they ain't that popular (though, again, that's probably down to the gametype).

[Spike Spiegel]

CyberKnite wrote..

The SAS don't use the Galil. . And isn't the DE an Israeli weapon?



Seriously, though, I'm glad to see some of those CZ weapons being integrated into CS. It might bring back some of the older players and it will hopefully give the game a jolt.

Har har I will agree, SAS is right up there, but they don't have to deal with terrorism on almost daily basis like the YAMA and 669 teams do. I agree about the weapons, but I hope they balance them well.

[MikeJ]

I doupt any of these maps would see any playtime. Unless you called it de_dusty_iceworld_4k and paid a 13 year old to design it.

[f0liage^]

what if they up the damage of the 5-7?