sniv wrote..I had a dual optical (actually I use it for my notebook now). If you got the problems I had, with the mouse skipping sometimes, you'll like this new mouse. Overall it's lighter and much better designed. I'm not trying to sell you on the mouse but it really is much better than the dual optical (which I was not happy with).
I currently have a dual optical and I am really satisfied of it
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rizzuh is right, i never get that skipping now (where the mouse completely misses the movement and looks straight up or down) i used to get it quite alot with my old Intellimouse optical....Comment
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I have a... (looks at the bottom of his mouse) Microsoft IntelliMouse 3.0 USB. Should I upgrade to the MX 500? I mean Christmas is around the corner and I have to waste my money somehow.Comment
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rizzuh wrote..
I've never really encountered any skipping with mine (and I use it for everything). I think I'll stick with my MDO, primarily because I can't justify the expense, but also simply because I'm completely satisfied with the MDO's performance. However, I do need some new white slider pads to go on the bottom of the mouse -- they seem to become "unstuck" after a few months of heavy use making it jerky to move. I guess if you really aren't satisfied with your MDO/MSIM or you must have the latest and greatest...
I had a dual optical (actually I use it for my notebook now). If you got the problems I had, with the mouse skipping sometimes, you'll like this new mouse. Overall it's lighter and much better designed. I'm not trying to sell you on the mouse but it really is much better than the dual optical (which I was not happy with).Comment
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i've never had any skipping problems either, except when my ill fated "lets run CS at high priority" 30-second windows xp experiment went awry.Strabo wrote..
ty. you have improved the day of everyone who has read that.
Keyword here is KISS....Keep it simple stupid....I mean hey, if you put all those buttons on the darn things whats next?....Mice with joysticks and small TV sets, drink holders, faxes, cell phones and the ever popular self-propelled mouse......You don't even have to touch the mouse, it moves by thought......Now if thinking about that dosen't keep you up tonite, remember they do have self-learning mice...Yep, and there gona take over the World, knifing you in the chest while you sleep so they can take your money and pet hamster....Comment
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i have an mx-500, it rawks
ggComment
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i just use the basic microsoft optical mouse...i dont need 5000 buttons and switches and 3 mouse wheels on it or a attached laser de-atomizerThe_Sorce wrote..
ok whoever recorded all of that shit...really needs a life
Some technical information for you all:
The MX-300 is a "standard" mouse with mouse1, mouse2 and mwheel. Except for that, it also has that little "mini-alt-tab" extra button.
The MX-500 is an ergonomic mouse with mouse1, mouse2, mwheel, a n extra "scroll up" button and an extra "scroll down" button. It also has the "mini-alt-tab" extra button and two thumb-keys, for back and forward (in ie or windows explorer). The thumbkeys can be binded within cs as mouse4 and mouse5 when you don't have mouseware installed.
The MX-700 is the same mouse as the MX-500, except for that it's cordless. The mouse has a lithium battery which should last for a whole day of cs playing, and if/when you run out of power, it only takes 10 minutes to recharge, and it's full again. Very impressive, imho. Also, the mouse has improved cordless RF technology, not lagging at all. So the performance is exactly the same as with the MX-500. Though, the MX-700 contains a piece of metal to increase weight. This piece does not exist in the MX-500 (correct me if I'm wrong, at least mine doesn't have one...
), so the MX-700 weights a little bit more than the MX-500. I don't understand Logitech's idea for that, but the piece can be easily removed. Guides all over the net too, if you want to remove it and don't know how.
Well, then to the more important things, performance... Let me tell you once and for all, ALL MX-mouses have exactly the same optical technology. The only difference between MX-300 and MX-500 is that the MX-500 is ergonomic and has more buttons, and the only difference between MX-500 and MX-700 is that the MX-700 is cordless.
All the Logitech MX-mouses are equiped with a single optical sensor of 800 dpi, which is INCREDIBLE 8000 hz (fps). This means it can detect movements as small as 1/800 of an inch, and in 1/8000 of a sec. Impressive, huh?
Some of you, equiped with Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 mouses, might say "dude, my mouse is 6000 dpi, and your is 800! n00b!". Well, you're wrong! The 6000 when it comes to the MS 3.0 is hz (fps), NOT dpi. All Microsoft cordless mouses are equiped with 400 dpi sensors. The difference between the Microsoft Intellimouse and the Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 was the increasing of hz (fps) to 6000. I don't recall what the old value was, but it was a great increase in speed. Well, Logitech beats you.
Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0
DPI: 400
HZ (frames per second): 6000
Logitech MX-300/500/700
DPI: 800
HZ (frames per second): 8000
So all you people saying "my ms mouse is MUCH better"... Well, it's quite much about taste, but in theory, Logitech mouses ARE better.
And I'm not saying this because I own a MX-500,
I bought a MX-500 because I knew this.
The_Sorce
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Anyone who has this mouse; how many bindable buttons are there when using it in CS (without the Logitech drivers)?? If there are only 5, I might as well stick with my Microsoft Intellimouse Optical.Comment
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I still love my IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
I don't think I could ever adapt to those two side buttons being above the thumb rest, though. And I still think my IntelliMouse looks sexier.Comment
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Knightmare_218 wrote..
Yes, five.
Anyone who has this mouse; how many bindable buttons are there when using it in CS (without the Logitech drivers)?? If there are only 5, I might as well stick with my Microsoft Intellimouse Optical.Comment
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are the other companies not allowed to use logitechs design? my mouse says patent pending on it so did they get it patented?Comment
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The_Sorce wrote..
Your techs are right and Im not saying your wrong, but theres more to a mouse than just its DPI and HZ. Its about how comfortable the mouse is. I have a fairly large hand, so my intellimouse its comfortable for me. I tried a few logitechs and they are alright but i find the intelli much more comfortable.
Some technical information for you all:
The MX-300 is a "standard" mouse with mouse1, mouse2 and mwheel. Except for that, it also has that little "mini-alt-tab" extra button.
The MX-500 is an ergonomic mouse with mouse1, mouse2, mwheel, a n extra "scroll up" button and an extra "scroll down" button. It also has the "mini-alt-tab" extra button and two thumb-keys, for back and forward (in ie or windows explorer). The thumbkeys can be binded within cs as mouse4 and mouse5 when you don't have mouseware installed.
The MX-700 is the same mouse as the MX-500, except for that it's cordless. The mouse has a lithium battery which should last for a whole day of cs playing, and if/when you run out of power, it only takes 10 minutes to recharge, and it's full again. Very impressive, imho. Also, the mouse has improved cordless RF technology, not lagging at all. So the performance is exactly the same as with the MX-500. Though, the MX-700 contains a piece of metal to increase weight. This piece does not exist in the MX-500 (correct me if I'm wrong, at least mine doesn't have one...), so the MX-700 weights a little bit more than the MX-500. I don't understand Logitech's idea for that, but the piece can be easily removed. Guides all over the net too, if you want to remove it and don't know how.
Well, then to the more important things, performance... Let me tell you once and for all, ALL MX-mouses have exactly the same optical technology. The only difference between MX-300 and MX-500 is that the MX-500 is ergonomic and has more buttons, and the only difference between MX-500 and MX-700 is that the MX-700 is cordless.
All the Logitech MX-mouses are equiped with a single optical sensor of 800 dpi, which is INCREDIBLE 8000 hz (fps). This means it can detect movements as small as 1/800 of an inch, and in 1/8000 of a sec. Impressive, huh?
Some of you, equiped with Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 mouses, might say "dude, my mouse is 6000 dpi, and your is 800! n00b!". Well, you're wrong! The 6000 when it comes to the MS 3.0 is hz (fps), NOT dpi. All Microsoft cordless mouses are equiped with 400 dpi sensors. The difference between the Microsoft Intellimouse and the Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 was the increasing of hz (fps) to 6000. I don't recall what the old value was, but it was a great increase in speed. Well, Logitech beats you.
Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0
DPI: 400
HZ (frames per second): 6000
Logitech MX-300/500/700
DPI: 800
HZ (frames per second): 8000
So all you people saying "my ms mouse is MUCH better"... Well, it's quite much about taste, but in theory, Logitech mouses ARE better.
And I'm not saying this because I own a MX-500,
I bought a MX-500 because I knew this.
The_Sorce
#Pargas @ QuakeNet
My intelli also operates fine and plays fine, so I dont see why I should buy a new mouse for the extra DPI if I dont need it. Until I start seing games that put DPI on the requirements im not going to worry about it.Comment
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yea...when i had a logitech mouse i felt like i was gonna snap itComment
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i find using older mouseware drivers let u use all the buttons on my mx300
the drivers im using are the 900b99en ones :)Comment
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The_Sorce wrote..
Let me add my mouse.
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Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0
DPI: 400
HZ (frames per second): 6000
Logitech MX-300/500/700
DPI: 800
HZ (frames per second): 8000
Razer Boomslang 2000
DPI: 2000
HZ (frames per second): 125
The so-called "frames per second" is really "updates per second". The USB standard is limited to 125. That easily exceedes Counter-Strike's fps limit, so no matter WHAT mouse you use connected via USB, the only way to differentiate their performance is by pixel accuracy or DPI. When opticals exceed 2000, I will buy one, but not before.
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