464 wrote..Best spelling EVER.
Make a better model.
OH WAIT!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111 YOU CANT FIND TEH TOOLS OR TEH RITE PROGRAMS 2 DO TEH MODEL SKINNERINGING!!!!1111111111111111@@@@@222222222
Very nicely done preview, and it's obviously got the masses excited. :)Jaydee_19 wrote..I cannot say for sure. However, if my memory serves me correctly, every single major release done by VALVe has been at 10am PST (GMT -0800). This sort of makes sense, as it lets the VALVe guys get a decent amount of sleep, then actually be around the office as things start to happen, and make sure it's smoothly released. Not for sure, but that's my best guess.
One question: At what time, Thursday, might we be expecting the release of the beta? Because I live in Belgium, there is a difference in time with u Americans...
Rhyzz wrote..Here's my thoughts on what the scoreboard changes will do:
Looks like some wicked changes have been made, the scoreboard change for alive players not being able to see dead enemies will make 1v1's in wars much more tense, and harder to predict an enemy.
SoBeR wrote..So go play CS1.5 you moron.
the new additions all suck.
street wrote..So you're saying the roughly $8000 you get from rescuing all the hostages personally (with the "winning through rescuing" bonus included) isn't enough of an incentive? It's simply done less often because rescuing often involves reaching 2 seperate destinations, and then safely making it back to a rescue zone. Planting the bomb only requires you to make it to one destination, then protect it for a half a minute. It's easy to see why it's more commonly done.
The "three frags" thing is ace, but why doesn't it apply to rescuing hostages too?
Raistlin-Elijah wrote..It's already been stated a lot of times, throughout the course of the Steam development information, that the final incarnation of Steam will let you mess with all your files just like you currently do with a full install of CS. Custom skins will still be allowed, and VALVe knows how important this has been.
... this will be a huge hit to the skinning community. Seeing how with steam you can't change pretty much anything except your config file. I for one hated steam in general seeing how you no longer have control of your files, they do. The only plus to the whole thing is the cheating aspect I suppose.
|cyborg| wrote..Clan matches are the least of your worries. It really isn't hard to keep track of 5 enemies. It gets difficult when you're pubbing on a 32 player server. Regardless, the spasm attack is all too common, I must admit. :)
The damn scoreboard thing will irritate anyone who plays clan matches, but at least it will rid you from the spasm attack of the tab button.
LoBsTeR-SiCk wrote..What you really want is naked female models, just admit it. Knowing the CS community as I do, however, I'm sure you already can download naked CT girls. I know there's hostages like that, anyway.
I'd like more player model options..i want tits..i want female player models..voice commands..girls play games too.
mouth wrote..Yes, they do. Unfortunately, most people overlook it, as it's shown actual size, and is typically mistaken for a period.
Dictionaries now have a picture of my left nut as a visual aid for the definition of the word.
LoBsTeR-SiCk wrote..Females are not a huge target market for FPS games, sorry. It's a nice theory and all, but simply put, most girls don't have a natural inclination to play games like CS. This isn't to say that some can't get hooked, but it's not the norm. The CS community is mostly guys, and will remain mostly guys. Sure, it'd be nice to have female models, but you have to realize that most of the people using them would be guys.
Although CS has many young people that play and can be rude, its not just a kids game. And girls get hooked on the gameplay just like guys. I happen to think more girls playing would help us have less tolerance for excessive rude behavior rather perpetuate it.
Conter-Strike having a way to integrate females more into the game would rock. Thats a huge target market...why not?
PCDawg wrote..The part about "realistic" should have been stricken from your post. It's a GAME, a GAME people! But other than that, the remaining observations were actually somewhat intelligent, which was nice to see out of the hundreds of posts that contained nothing of value.
The scoreboard of not knowing how manys remaining might not work out...it does make the game more realistic....but u'll get more players crawling, walking and moving ever so slowly not knowing how many players are left on the othe side.....or perhaps gets players camping waiting til those players pass....
sniv wrote..Umm, there's what, a $3000 or something penalty for TKing? Additionally, there's a -1 to your score, and often penalties on top of that. No, I don't think we'll see people TKing to get to plant or defuse the bomb. What I DO think we'll see as a result will be the following:
at least the +3 frags will make people PLANT THE BOMB from time to time?
Same thing with defusing. Except we'd see people tking the defuser to try to get +3 frags and ending the game by every1 exploding.
From Changelog...Notice that this doesn't say "live players don't see dead enemies," but rather that they don't see the enemy deaths. English grammar time. The subject of the sentence is "deaths" and "enemy" is the modifier. Because of this, it is NOT referring to not seeing enemy players in the scoreboard who happen to be dead, but is rather referring to not seeing deaths that happen to belong to enemy players.
Changed so live players don't see enemy deaths in the scoreboard.
LoBsTeR-SiCk wrote..At the time, I probably would have gone for the mountain bike. Did I say too much?
You remember when you got your pubes, street? Were you thinking "man Im growing here, but i'd trade these pubes for a new mountain bike"
lockhart wrote..Why is it that no one in the CS community seems to know how to climb ladders with only one hand? I mean, ropes I could maybe understand, but ladders?
if they wanted to make cs more realistic, heres a few changes they could make.
you need to drop your rifle to climb ladders, as it does not have a strap.
Gnu wrote..Thank you, you have proved yourself among the most intelligent people here, with that comment. :) Yes... unfortunately that is our fate, but so it goes.
I give it four hours after the beta's release before people start proclaiming the death of Counter-Strike. Again.
Those same people will still be playing the beta a week later. Yet, still complaining. Never fails.
ThursdayAFI wrote..Two thoughts. First off, in my view of the world (which is based on news, books and movies, so don't take it for much), CT teams infiltrating a building or whatever to eliminate terrorists would ALWAYS do recon first to determine the numbers and locations of hostiles. Terrorists would have little to no way of knowing the numbers of their opponents, but CT's would have a very good idea in many situations. Especially with the "room clearing" approach to CT operations. This is NOT real life though, it's a game. In games, we often side with "fun" over "real" to make up for the areas we can't realistically replicate. Second thought. The "enemy down" radio command will never be heavily used, because it is assigned to slot 9 of its radio category. Too far from the typical key layout for people to press it often.
This time i think they are going for a more REALISTIC CS. Do you think there would be a little score board next to you out in the battle field telling you if people are dead or not i mean come on this isnt a bad chnage people will start being more aof a team and not running around like freakin idiots and trying to kill everyone they can and oh yeah people will probably be reporting radio messages alot more now! for instance, ENEMY DOWN!!!!
Brutus wrote..That only works for some people. Others actually have to escape all the way out to the main game menu (say, if they joined from the in-game server browser), and in doing so, you must disconnect from the server. Either way, there's usually severe gui corruption. In CS1.5, the only way I've gotten around all of this is playing in windowed mode, and I'm looking forward to being able to play in full screen once more without problems.
I think they fixed the alt+tab loosing sound, but if they didn't all you have to do in game is hit escape, then resume.
Renstradamus wrote..I really wish people wouldn't post on this unless they had a clue what they were talking about. In the review, rizzuh said no. But for reference, VALVe also said you couldn't with the Steam 1.0 beta, and it worked fine for me on 56k. Granted, it was slower than hell, but it still worked. With that in mind, chances are really damn good that it will work, but again, it's not going to be a pleasant experience. If you've got a lot of patience, you may be able to get it working eventually.
GUYS I NEED SOME HELP!!!. is it true i cant play 1.6(the one that come out thursday) if i have 56k? i love cs but i'm kinda scared. i keep getting mixed messages so if someone could plz clear this up for me?
-:Nighthawk:- wrote..what a day u have!
Doh... forgot what I was going to say... brb...
[go]skidmark wrote..yes, this is one of the longest thread i ever read
Holy crap! i left at 3:30pm for work, got home at 10:00pm and theres like,... 3 more pages!
-:Nighthawk:- wrote..i didnt read it
First off. Yes rizzuh, you are a damn sexy bitch.
Without further introduction (other than mentioning that 333 is exactly 1/2 of 666...), I shall begin my quotefest.
I cannot say for sure. However, if my memory serves me correctly, every single major release done by VALVe has been at 10am PST (GMT -0800). This sort of makes sense, as it lets the VALVe guys get a decent amount of sleep, then actually be around the office as things start to happen, and make sure it's smoothly released. Not for sure, but that's my best guess.
Here's my thoughts on what the scoreboard changes will do:» Add to the suspense.
I'm really going to miss those end of round knife fights.
» Add to the "fear" element of the unknown, which will lead to much more camping near the ends of rounds.
» Signal the death of the "last man standing" 1v1 knife fights to settle rounds.
» Create situations where AFK players will not be hunted down by small opposing forces.
» Reduce the amount of foolish rushing by players when only a few teammates remain.
So go play CS1.5 you moron.
So you're saying the roughly $8000 you get from rescuing all the hostages personally (with the "winning through rescuing" bonus included) isn't enough of an incentive? It's simply done less often because rescuing often involves reaching 2 seperate destinations, and then safely making it back to a rescue zone. Planting the bomb only requires you to make it to one destination, then protect it for a half a minute. It's easy to see why it's more commonly done.
It's already been stated a lot of times, throughout the course of the Steam development information, that the final incarnation of Steam will let you mess with all your files just like you currently do with a full install of CS. Custom skins will still be allowed, and VALVe knows how important this has been.
Clan matches are the least of your worries. It really isn't hard to keep track of 5 enemies. It gets difficult when you're pubbing on a 32 player server. Regardless, the spasm attack is all too common, I must admit. :)
What you really want is naked female models, just admit it. Knowing the CS community as I do, however, I'm sure you already can download naked CT girls. I know there's hostages like that, anyway.
Yes, they do. Unfortunately, most people overlook it, as it's shown actual size, and is typically mistaken for a period.
Females are not a huge target market for FPS games, sorry. It's a nice theory and all, but simply put, most girls don't have a natural inclination to play games like CS. This isn't to say that some can't get hooked, but it's not the norm. The CS community is mostly guys, and will remain mostly guys. Sure, it'd be nice to have female models, but you have to realize that most of the people using them would be guys.
The part about "realistic" should have been stricken from your post. It's a GAME, a GAME people! But other than that, the remaining observations were actually somewhat intelligent, which was nice to see out of the hundreds of posts that contained nothing of value.
Umm, there's what, a $3000 or something penalty for TKing? Additionally, there's a -1 to your score, and often penalties on top of that. No, I don't think we'll see people TKing to get to plant or defuse the bomb. What I DO think we'll see as a result will be the following:» Snipers will no longer drop the bomb for others to plant.
The last factor is the main pitfall, in my mind. Overall, though, I think the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
» People will try to plant and defuse slightly more often, leading to slightly more objectives-based gameplay.
» Teammates will yell about others "stealing their bomb" that they were "clearly" running towards.
» Instead of a CT running to defuse, and his teammates running to secure the area, all CT's will make a mad dash to the bomb in an attempt to be the first to start the defuse process.
Notice that this doesn't say "live players don't see dead enemies," but rather that they don't see the enemy deaths. English grammar time. The subject of the sentence is "deaths" and "enemy" is the modifier. Because of this, it is NOT referring to not seeing enemy players in the scoreboard who happen to be dead, but is rather referring to not seeing deaths that happen to belong to enemy players.
Simply from the line in the changelog, this could mean either not seeing the "DEAD" tag next to people's name, or not seeing how many times they died. Given rizzuh's commentary on the suspense aspect, however, the second possibility is obviously not the correct one, and we're talking about simply removing "DEAD" tags. I hope that cleared things up for the few of you that couldn't seem to understand it.
At the time, I probably would have gone for the mountain bike. Did I say too much?
Why is it that no one in the CS community seems to know how to climb ladders with only one hand? I mean, ropes I could maybe understand, but ladders?
Thank you, you have proved yourself among the most intelligent people here, with that comment. :) Yes... unfortunately that is our fate, but so it goes.
Two thoughts. First off, in my view of the world (which is based on news, books and movies, so don't take it for much), CT teams infiltrating a building or whatever to eliminate terrorists would ALWAYS do recon first to determine the numbers and locations of hostiles. Terrorists would have little to no way of knowing the numbers of their opponents, but CT's would have a very good idea in many situations. Especially with the "room clearing" approach to CT operations. This is NOT real life though, it's a game. In games, we often side with "fun" over "real" to make up for the areas we can't realistically replicate. Second thought. The "enemy down" radio command will never be heavily used, because it is assigned to slot 9 of its radio category. Too far from the typical key layout for people to press it often.
That only works for some people. Others actually have to escape all the way out to the main game menu (say, if they joined from the in-game server browser), and in doing so, you must disconnect from the server. Either way, there's usually severe gui corruption. In CS1.5, the only way I've gotten around all of this is playing in windowed mode, and I'm looking forward to being able to play in full screen once more without problems.
I really wish people wouldn't post on this unless they had a clue what they were talking about. In the review, rizzuh said no. But for reference, VALVe also said you couldn't with the Steam 1.0 beta, and it worked fine for me on 56k. Granted, it was slower than hell, but it still worked. With that in mind, chances are really damn good that it will work, but again, it's not going to be a pleasant experience. If you've got a lot of patience, you may be able to get it working eventually.
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And there you have it, Nighthawk's quote fest for the evening. I was actually planning on downloading the beta just after lunch on Thursday (only work a morning shift that day, and don't have school that afternoon), but then the phone rang. To make a long story short, friends are more important than CS betas, especially if they're very attractive females. :)
Enjoy your CS boys, I'll be off to coffee, hehe. :P
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