cs 1.6: hands-on

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  • Brutus

    #271
    exec_client is an adminmod thing now, not HL. Go talk to them.



    You see the scoreboard, but it doesn't say dead next to them.



    I think they fixed the alt+tab loosing sound, but if they didn't all you have to do in game is hit escape, then resume.

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    • Gpig

      #272
      JdeFalconr wrote..

      hmmmm I wonder why they chose to give a frag bonus as opposed to a $$$ bonus for defusing/planting. rizzuh you're right, in the grand scheme of things it matters more if your team wins then if you get more kills. But it seems like this change is just a nod to all those who think frags are the goal in CS, which I would say they most definitely are not.
      I don't quite understand the teamplay purist nazi's. Wolfenstein has it and it works great. It makes it so you have medics that are actually helpful and people go for objectives. Though there are other reasons as to why people rush in wolfenstein that won't happen in Counter-Strike.

      - A group that has 2 medics(or just one), a lieutenant, and a soldier carrying whatever gun they need(for beach a panzerfaust, machinegun, or flamethrower would be good)

      - Deaths aren't recorded(they could do this in Counter-Strike but realistically they probably won't do it, they still haven't done something else about the awp)

      - If you died you could be revived and if not it wasn't long before you spawned

      - It was really fun the first billion times you do it



      Adding points for planting the bomb makes it so you won't have those people that literally run through the bombsite with the bomb. This happens when T's rush B and some loser with the bomb runs through it, out the doors, and on to A to fight.



      As for people whining about deaths not showing on the scoreboard. Boo-fucking-hoo.



      Also, not enough people seem to care that smoke grenades quite literally, rule now. It will be alot more helpful now to smoke the area where T's our running into A from long A and don't want to get sniped from middle now they can use less smokes and get across completely safe instead of just partially.

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      • AceR

        #273
        omG

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        • darbishfish

          #274
          This no dead enemies in scoreboard idea is most non-sensical CS change ever. It will take away clutch oportunities in matches and encourage camping in pubs.

          What a joke

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          • AceR

            #275
            hey~, a found a video done by the people at fileshack. They made a demo of them going around de_airstrip. Watch it:



            http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=2075



            - i just watched it, the map looks really good. Should play well.

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            • bkrose120

              #276
              Brutus wrote..

              exec_client is an adminmod thing now, not HL. Go talk to them.



              You see the scoreboard, but it doesn't say dead next to them.



              I think they fixed the alt+tab loosing sound, but if they didn't all you have to do in game is hit escape, then resume.
              thx, but i've tried pressing esc but the main screen is fucked up and i can't get back into the game

              Also, i agree SMOKE GRENADES RULE! =D

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              • Brutus

                #277
                I guess you could always just add people up when they die. Not that hard. You have 16 players and you counted 15 dead, then you have 1 left. Probably to hard for some people.

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                • darbishfish

                  #278
                  It's still pointless and there's no reason to change it. I'd prefer watching the middle of my screen instead of the corner counting kill messages

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                  • Brutus

                    #279
                    I'm use to watching both I guess. I always like to know who is dying.



                    Besides, I think they put it in to give people more to whine about. I think Valve finds it funny.

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                    • flare

                      #280
                      How much more does the glock do?



                      Chest shots at medium range do about 6-7 damage on average... did they up it to at least 10?

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                      • -Rage-

                        #281

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                        • 464

                          #282
                          so?

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                          • Frito Bandito

                            #283
                            I think Valve has gone off it's collective rocker, for the reasons stated in the other complaints by people.



                            I'm not sure what they were smoking when they decided some of these changes.

                            "Ok," *PUFF*, "What are we gonna do this time to annoy our fans?"



                            *PUFF PUFF* "Well, We can make deaths not show on scoreboard, that would balance out our genius we had with the smoke grenades, glock damage increase, shield, and those 2 new guns."



                            *BIG LONG PUFF* "SURE!!!"

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                            • solgae1784

                              #284
                              Edited by [user="73650"] @ [time="1042676287"]

                              I don't see what's the fuss about the new scoreboard!! It adds tension, it adds realism. Do u think in real life, u'll be able to see who's alive and who's not?? Seeing this through the scoreboard was a real luxury that real world counter-terrorist team (or the terrorist) don't enjoy. You guys shouldn't be taking it for granted.



                              The new rifle (FAMAS and Galil) does fulfills my expectation, but I think Galil is a little too cheap. In fact too cheap for such a good rifle as it says so in the review. Any Terrorist in the second round, whether won or lost in the first round, will be able to afford at least a Galil (albeit not much money left for extra ammo or armor) As long as you don't spend the $800 u start with, you will have $2200 in your bank when u lose the first round (and kill nobody and die) That could mean MP5 will become obsolete to the Terrorists if there is an aggresive player who will spend all $2200 for a Galil and have enough skill to stay alive the entire round.

                              CT's still can't afford their rifle at the second round if they lose the first round and the player didn't kill anybody. Given that Galil is very powerful in its own right and more accurate than the AK-47, CT's might go down tight who could only get an MP5, which is still a good gun in its own right but can be outgunned by the rifles.



                              Everything is good in 1.6 and i'm looking forward to it. The only wish I have now is for the players to stop complaining about the new scoreboard and for the developers to increase the Galil and FAMAS's cost slightly. Yes, about $2600-$2700 range. (especially the Galil) And my another wish is a new addition of a more stronger type of kelvar armor that can fare well against those pesky rifles.

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                              • bkrose120

                                #285
                                Brutus wrote..

                                I guess you could always just add people up when they die. Not that hard. You have 16 players and you counted 15 dead, then you have 1 left. Probably to hard for some people.
                                If you noticed my post before, I said that either HL or my computer is screwed up, but HALF OF ALL KILLS WON'T DISPLAY IN THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER!

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