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  • hUSKYfAN

    #16
    Last nite i was playing fine but today the new VAC module (brilliant piece of work that it is) detects that my "memory is corrupted" and then directs me to www.counter-strike.net/cheats.html . Not that its not bad enough that i can't even play...its that the page it sends me to doesn't even offer a fix.

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    • Lento

      #17
      hUSKYfAN wrote..

      Last nite i was playing fine but today the new VAC module (brilliant piece of work that it is) detects that my "memory is corrupted" and then directs me to www.counter-strike.net/cheats.html . Not that its not bad enough that i can't even play...its that the page it sends me to doesn't even offer a fix.
      Bet you are running either win95,98 or ME? You can't even start those without the memory getting corrupted. It's time to upgrade your OS man, if it's a 200MHz or faster you should have no problem installing win2k (XP is overkill), at least it has some kind of memory protection...

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      • FLeK0

        #18
        rq60 wrote..

        No, its almost as bad as it was in 1.3... It's easy to find public cheats again that do everything for you. Almost every scrimm I do there is a cheater in it. And I'm not just a person that calls everyone cheaters.
        No, theres no cheating clans who comes with 5 members to your server kills the game, crashes the server etc. except the myg0t rage nights, in like 1 time/month. Yes theres some cheaters, who downloaded a cheat, based on ogc (will stopped in 1.6 w/ Steam) or opengl (will blocked in 1.6 with VAC).

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        • t0><|n

          #19
          FLeK0 wrote..

          No, theres no cheating clans who comes with 5 members to your server kills the game, crashes the server etc. except the myg0t rage nights, in like 1 time/month. Yes theres some cheaters, who downloaded a cheat, based on ogc (will stopped in 1.6 w/ Steam) or opengl (will blocked in 1.6 with VAC).
          then u don't scrim an awful lot, do you? the complexion of the cs community has changed. with the increased popularity of pugs, cheaters now find each other, get a group of five together, make up or use a clan tag from the cal site, and scrim legit clans.



          not as bad as 1.3? dude, there are 13 undedected cheats available. 13. and they can't crash your server? really now!? looks like you haven't met many cheaters, then.



          and it'll be fixed in 1.6? uhm, i've seen more people quit in the last two weeks than i have in two years and i have no confidence that 1.6 will be out to keep many others from quitting. 2 more that i know quit last night/this morning.



          yes, i'm pissed. valve disables the ability for any other software/third party program to detect cheats at a functional level and then drags its buttocks in detecting cheats. why? gosh, i hope all you people can realize this: because they only want to establish that they have built an integrated, dynamically upgraded anti cheat so they can sell it to other companies. now if they were soooooo concerned about cheating then they would've spent their precious time fixing it so the 13 cheats don't work, but instead they fix it so some servers don't need to be restarted after an update (?) who gives a rat's ass? i'd rather have to log in to restart my server once every 3(?) weeks than lose a league match twice a week. valve may well believe that cheaters help the sales of the game, but at this point, it's more than a game...it's a competitive environment. cheats and cs/cz will kill that. i won't get started on cs/cz.....



          give people a choice....the current set up or an all server side configuration set up for league play.

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          • Cliche

            #20
            Not played for months due to various reasons but 1.3 nearly made me give up (was a UK ISP CS admin - twas a nightmare).

            Is it true 11 (or 13) cheats are flying around which still work ?



            Jeez ...

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            • Softy's 24/7 Fraggin

              #21
              my highly subjective opinion is that cheating, while greatly reduced from the levels in prior betas is on the rise again. CS players are more paranoid then ever and i can't go 10 and 2 with being called a hacker. and thats on a server where i am a administrator. it really makes me sad that no one, not even administrators are above being accused of cheating by some little noob. the fear of cheating is infectious and soon anyone who kills you must be cheating some how.

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              • Cliche

                #22
                exo - think u have credit now as it mentions u at the top m8

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                • Ghengis

                  #23
                  WHY DO POEPLL USE CHEATS? Im sorry but isnt htis a game? And in the competitive environment, surely some sort of legal action could be used since there is prize money involved, atthe very least there should be osmeway of detecting these cheatS? Or am I so n00b that i odnt quite grasp it. Someone mentioned that in competitive leagues there shouo.d be osme kind of server side retentionof cfgs or something like that.. I think that makes sense. And punitive legal action would surely deter cheaters. Coupled with age restrictions on competitve play.. You'd end up with legally responsible adults, looking at attempt to obtain money by deception charges, or even fraud.. Bet your boottom dollar a few prison sentances later the cheaters woudl diminish.

                  And dont worry about people leavin the game. Theres new ones joining every day

                  Like me

                  !!

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                  • Rufus!

                    #24
                    Haven't played CS in months now and don't know if I will for ages. But cheaters will always be there in every game. The more popular a game is - the more cheaters. We should at least thank VALVe for trying to stop cheats right?

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                    • nix

                      #25
                      Edited by [user="8111"] @ [time="1035564624"]

                      Lento wrote..

                      Bet you are running either win95,98 or ME? You can't even start those without the memory getting corrupted. It's time to upgrade your OS man, if it's a 200MHz or faster you should have no problem installing win2k (XP is overkill), at least it has some kind of memory protection...
                      wtf are you talking about corrupted memory ?

                      XP / 2K are just other microsoft gadget same bullshit GUI

                      with a So-Called kernel to imitate the linux OS give me a break

                      Mr corrupted mem

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                      • g0dLik3n1nJa

                        #26
                        Edited by [user="26282"] @ [time="1035566059"]

                        flecko there is accually a false positive that eric is currently working on regarding "corrupted memory" i started te thread on the steam forums...



                        as of yet there havent been any reports of this bug outside fo steam users... there are about 10 ppl who have posted at the thread complaining of the same problem.



                        -hp

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                        • Lento

                          #27
                          Edited by [user="38302"] @ [time="1035579192"]

                          nix wrote..

                          wtf are you talking about corrupted memory ?

                          XP / 2K are just other microsoft gadget same bullshit GUI

                          with a So-Called kernel to imitate the linux OS give me a break

                          Mr corrupted mem
                          What happens is some driver or other software (program) overwrites the memory allocated by halfl-life/CS. I'm guessing they are using some kind of checksum to compare if a certain memoryspace has changed (might be where all the variables where you are aiming, your position etc are stored. Or it might be the memoryspace with textures etc.). In win2k/XP allocated memoryspace normally can't be overwritten by another program (eg Hacks/cheats), which is alot more possible in win9x/ME. So if the checksum of a memoryblock has been corrupted, CS/HL/VAC quits for you, eliminating your win9x/ME hacks.



                          Of course you might have another program that screws up the memoryspace which is not a hack, might be faulty driver, badly written software etc. That's why they aren't banning you.



                          This is my theory. I could be wrong...

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                          • f00kie

                            #28
                            Ok, to put the end to posts like "Gj Valve" I will say this.



                            The security module has ruined everything. Now there is no way you can play CS with Steam. Why? I don't know. Must be how Valve works these day, quantity over quality. Maybe they get payed for every module release, maybe they don't. I am so pissed as I thought this thing would be good, but no, it just catches everyone as one.



                            GJ Valve.

                            Added @ [time="1035576765"]

                            Hmm, well here is what Eric of Valve wrote:



                            It was a mistake, and we should have a fix for it soon.

                            Soon....as in as quickly as we can. I'm not sure when yet. We're testing

                            some fixes today. It will be a security module fix.



                            -Eric



                            Meaning, they have disabled Steam by mistake, and it should be fixed, hopefully today.

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                            • Exo

                              #29
                              I can't even play cs. Ordering new motherboard/cpu and ram tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                              • f00kie

                                #30
                                Exo wrote..

                                I can't even play cs. Ordering new motherboard/cpu and ram tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                Why can't you play?



                                Oh, btw, wanna order some for me, my address is........Ontario, Canada.



                                Thanks!

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