New CS, CZ Updates

[I2o[G]uE TacT-X]

i want the new (now old) hs sprite back!!

[Tycho]

I would really like to see the AWP back to its old self. I'm not sure where people go the idea that quick switching allowed you to shoot faster, you could still only shoot at the same rate, and if you stumbled, you actually shot slower. The point of quick switching was to move a bit quicker, have a better view of your surroundings, have your pistol ready etc.



While I can understand why this was seen as a glitch, it did certainly make the AWP more exciting/fun to play with. Though I am sure the AWP was never intended as an offensive weapon, in the right hands it was as effective as the AK/Colt. I think we will see a bit less variety now. To be effective now, really you have to use the Colt or AK.



I'm sure my opinion means little to nothing as I am only 1 of gawd knows how many of us CS players, but to me, some of the fun in CS is lost with the most recent changes to the awp. I think I will continue to play some, but I am sure it will not be as often. At least my free time will benefit from this.



Go ahead downplay these changes, tell me to adjust, and call me a whiner...your opinion is as insignificant as mine.

[Supersonic^]

AceR wrote..

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?giveawp that's 26615 Total Signatures.

LOL Who cares? Seriously? Who will actually read those petitions?

[avatar:0:0:]

well, another problem for me: I can't type any non-letter or digit character in console prompt now in the normal way. for example, underscore gives me question mark - like a keyboard map was broken. I can't type commands (like say_team) and cvars!!!! anybody have same issue?

[Supersonic^]

No.

[xlokix]

Supersonic1425 wrote..

LOL Who cares? Seriously? Who will actually read those petitions?

petitions can actually solve a lot of things, and yes people do read them.

lopinboy wrote..

So cliffe, when was the last time you tested the game (obviously you don't beta test patches, due to the crosshair bug which was obvious)? I made demos a long time ago of the time difference between the two, then did a startdemo at 60fps. No difference in time and the awp was being scripted, not done manually. Also, why nerf the AWP when the AK and M4 are dominating the game? Makes no sense to nerf a weapon to make other weapons useful, but not nerf the 2 most abused weapons to make actually make the other guns useful.

please dont listen to that cliffe, these are the kind of people who want the m4 as wreckless as the usp

[narby]

xlokix wrote..

petitions can actually solve a lot of things, and yes people do read them.

Name one thing petition onlline has ever solved.

[ma_cherie]

xlokix wrote..

petitions can actually solve a lot of things, and yes people do read them.

Wasn't there an even larger petition to get rid of Steam in general when Steam first came out?

[Joana_Prado]

narby wrote..

Name one thing petition onlline has ever solved.

That one to change the name of "The Two Towers" because of the 9/11 attacks.



Oh wait, it didn't fix it... Ooops, my bad. :)

[Supersonic^]

Joana_Prado wrote..

That one to change the name of "The Two Towers" because of the 9/11 attacks.



Oh wait, it didn't fix it... Ooops, my bad. :)

I rest my case... </cliché>

[lopinboy]

xlokix wrote..

petitions can actually solve a lot of things, and yes people do read them.



please dont listen to that cliffe, these are the kind of people who want the m4 as wreckless as the usp

I'm the person that wants M4 and AK nerfed to promote use of skill and other weapons. When's the last time you played CS without half the CTs using M4 and the other half using AK? Sure, say "it's because it's a good gun", but if I remember correctly, good guns are normally the unbalanced guns.

[Pharlap]

lopinboy wrote..

I'm the person that wants M4 and AK nerfed to promote use of skill and other weapons. When's the last time you played CS without half the CTs using M4 and the other half using AK? Sure, say "it's because it's a good gun", but if I remember correctly, good guns are normally the unbalanced guns.

ok.

but instead of nerfing them by either making them less accurate or some other physical alteration, why not just make them cost a lot more. that way they will still be basically true to life weapons (very accurate, extremely deadly) but will require a significant investment to buy one. that will stop them being used in the 2nd round until the end, and will promote the cheaper (but less useful) weapons a chance. so that as the game progresses you see a situation where you get a pistols > smgs/shotguns > cheap rifles (famas) > expensive rifles (colt) > sniper rifles/mg progression throughout the map.

[T|2i|34L]

Blarg. I like it. It's fine. The crosshairs are fine. The HS icon is fine. The AWP is fine. All guns are fine.



Yeah....valve?...1 thing...could you add a gun that shoots a big green ball that does immense damage to anyone that I can see on my screen. That would be great...yeah.

[lopinboy]

Pharlap wrote..

ok.

but instead of nerfing them by either making them less accurate or some other physical alteration, why not just make them cost a lot more. that way they will still be basically true to life weapons (very accurate, extremely deadly) but will require a significant investment to buy one. that will stop them being used in the 2nd round until the end, and will promote the cheaper (but less useful) weapons a chance. so that as the game progresses you see a situation where you get a pistols > smgs/shotguns > cheap rifles (famas) > expensive rifles (colt) > sniper rifles/mg progression throughout the map.

Nerfing of any way to AK and M4 would promote the use of other guns, but it has to be a nerf that means something. Such as nerfing how much money you can earn in 1 round, making AK cost $3200 and M4 cost $3600 (yes, even more than AUG, since it has faster ROF, higher damage, and roughly the same recoil) or making ARs do less dmg upclose than they do longrange. Personally, I'd like to see everything go back to 1.0 and before, when MP5 and shotgun could cause some serious damage, or have a distance zone. Shotguns do tons of dmg from 1ft to 15ft, SMGs from 10ft to 30ft, and ARs from 30ft and up. That would promote guns to be used in different situations instead of just your typical "One gun wins all".



Regardless of what type of nerf, they just need to get rid of the M4/AK weapon dominance in the game.

[Gpig]

narby wrote..

Name one thing petition onlline has ever solved.

Cancer