New CS, CZ Updates

[MikeJ]

BeaMeR wrote..

Well I checked "/yoursteamdir/SteamApps/your@email/condition zero/czero/manual/" and of course it's just a 1.5 manual.

fire up CZ and get to the main game GUI before checking /manual

[Helkite]

Great! The headshot icon finally looks decent now. But...



What about those weapon prices changes Cliffe was talking about?



How about fixing the wierd aesthetic problems like the M4A4 muzzle flash appearing in the middle of the gun? The pistol+shield muzzle flash mis-alignment? The weird flash of black that appears for .5 a second when switching to knife when using shield?



Not to bitch about everything, but Valve still has a lot to do...

[MikeJ]

By the way, you should actually play with the crosshairs in a scrim/pub instead of just looking at screenshots and or running around an empty listenserver before you pass judgment. You might actually like them, a lot.

[Smurfzilla]

actually peagle, i still like cs, and csnation will be my homepage for a long time, they post good news an its fun to debate over steams/valves crap that they release to the public, anyways, they need a CoDnation, :P

[RaptorRage]

Too much whining about the suggested price updates that would make the lesser used guns less expensive and a AK47 closer in price to the Colt, so they held off on applying the new prices at least for now.

[Gpig]

MikeJ wrote..

By the way, you should actually play with the crosshairs in a scrim/pub instead of just looking at screenshots and or running around an empty listenserver before you pass judgment. You might actually like them, a lot.

I'm just awesome. I could have no crosshair.

[farmer brown]

What's the difference in the new de_vertigo?

I played through it and didn't see any new changes.

[david_mas]

Well im happy with the x-hairs and i also think that the delay should only be on the awp...cuz scout is suppose to be faster than awp right! there ruining the balance between the slow awp and the fast scout!



Still awaiting on the removal of the shield and readding bunny-hop.. :0

[MrBo]

lopinboy wrote..

You want realism? Then they should make the M4 jam every 10 shots and after everytime you throw it on the ground. Making an AWPer have to wait for a 2 second invisible delay is far from realistic. Skill is in aiming, this doesn't do crap to skill, except make the skillless M4/AK newbs that plague the servers have a better chance at killing AWPers.



Sounds like someone uses the unbalanced M4 and AK way to much. They need to get rid of that dumbass delay or add it to every primary weapon in CS.

Ok let me break it down so you can understand a very basic concept.



In previous versions the time it took to pull out and fire the awp is much less than the time it took between shots. Now, the time it takes to pull out and shoot an awp is about equal to the time it takes between shots. This prevents people from firing an awp faster than it was meant to be fired as well as giving them a speed boost between shots. Now, if you keep the awp out between shots there is no difference from last version. This means you have to be more accurate with your first shot.



On the scout complaints. In case people didnt already know, there is NO difference between running around with a scout and running around with a knife. If you pistol switched with the scout you ran slower. Dont switch to a pistol or knife after you fire a shot. Instead, just take another shot.



I'm sick of the people still complaining about awp delay. If you actually took the time to figure it out you'd realize these things yourself. But because you are bitter that you cant quick switch anymore you dont realize it.



I mean come on. They took the ONLY gun in the game that can get a 1 shot kill without being within 5 feet or hitting the head, and made you a little less manueverable and made you hit your first shot while using it. IT ISNT THAT BAD.

[MikeJ]

I wish the people whining on steampowered would actually try the crosshairs.

[entRo]

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masterren wrote..

They've adapted to not using bunny hopping...that was pretty major. Anyway, they can deal with virtually any of these changes.

No matter how many times it's said, an idiot like you will always confuse bunnyhopping with constant jumping. Bunnyhopping is strafejumping to gain speed. What you're talking about is the way jumping was pre-1.4. Bunnyhopping was never allowed in leagues, so the "pros" never had to adapt to not using it.

david_mas wrote..

Still awaiting on the removal of the shield and readding bunny-hop.. :0

You too.



As far as the crosshairs go, I don't understand why they couldn't be left alone, or atleast give an option to pick the size of your crosshair instead of forcing it on everyone. Not that big of a deal though. I'm happy with the combination of the two headshot icons, happy the awp is still slower (American pro-teams might finally lean away from awping), couldn't care less about the shield, it's not allowed in leagues anyway.

[kalabalana]

I play at 1600x1200 new crosshairs feel the like they were before the patch from last week with the huge crosshairs, or as I called them, crosslogs

[entRo]

kalabalana wrote..

I play at 1600x1200 new crosshairs feel the like they were before the patch from last week with the huge crosshairs, or as I called them, crosslogs

That's because at a ridiculous resolution like that, your crosshairs would be tiny like the new ones. I used to use 640x480 res, now on 800x600 so when the bigger crosshairs came out last week, didn't seem like that much of a difference.

[XTRMNTR]

Well hopefully they don't change the AWP. Good thing they fixed the crosshairs and the headshot icon though, that was getting annoying as hell.



So does whining about something in this game publicly get things changed?

[bozer]

Well.,. unfortunately for me, now my crosshairs are tiny. Before this latest patch, I considered them to be perfect. I run 800X600 if that helps explain anything.