Ghengis/Dangermouse wrote..Except that if they're putting "DEAD" back on the scoreboard, then I'd say they don't give much of a shit about teamplay and objectives.
(bonus frags for defusing/planting) a really good objective inspiring feature and well worth while.
densityduck wrote..In a perfect world, you're right. Sadly, there are two typical Counter-Strike instances which I will break down for you very quickly.
Except that if they're putting "DEAD" back on the scoreboard, then I'd say they don't give much of a shit about teamplay and objectives.
It's like this. If you don't know who is dead and who isn't, then teamwork becomes terribly important. There's now a _reason_ to say "spotted an enemy" or "took one down" on the radio. Not only that, but it means that people will have to be cautios and guard areas and not just rushrushrushrushrushOMGRUSHUNOOB all the time.
But on the other hand it seems that's how the "community" wants it, which implies that the "community" should be coding the game themselves.
puffycloud wrote..Here here, a sensible measured and wholheartedly agreed with response.
In a perfect world, you're right. Sadly, there are two typical Counter-Strike instances which I will break down for you very quickly.
On a public server, teamplay means nothing. It's never going to get to the point where the entire team is going to say enemy down/enemy spotted with any sort of regularity. Look at voice comm. Hardly anyone on public servers really uses it for anything but saying "fuck you nub you stole my killz," and even if they did it would really clutter the radio on 20+ player servers. You're attributing some kind of mystical brotherhood to the teams when, in reality, most people would kill their teammates if it didn't take so long and screw their score up. Because of that, servers would've turned into camp-fests for the attacking team. The average player is a camping moron ANYHOW, and adding this element would do little but promote more of the same.
In the clan world, this could've potentially worked. However, it would end in a huge advantage for the teams that use Roger Wilco and other third party voice communication software. Sure, it's not too hard for a team to spout off how many kills they've made or count in the console, but I'm pretty sure most teams would simply choose to have the dead people say how many and which players are alive. And why give LAN teams an even bigger advantage where they can just look at the monitors next to them to see the status of the other team?
It was a good idea in theory, but, like many CS-related topics, the terribly immature community would screw it up. It would've ended up hurting the game more than helping. However, I'm all for the 3 frags for bomb planting/defusing. That one makes sense. It encourages objectives in public servers, and in clan matches no one cares about frags anyhow.
Also, your last point about the community is pretty stupid. Game developers are game developers because they develop games. They develop the games for the community. Listening to the community creates a game more people will buy/play, thus providing money to said game developers and creating an opportunity for more games to be developed by game developers that listened to the community of the developed games. I'm not really seeing why I, with no coding experience or tools, should begin development on Counter-Strike simply because I provided the feedback that was requested. Not only is it nonsensical, but I would certainly take longer to update the game than VALVe, and we already know how great the community is at waiting.
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