FAMAS to Receive Post-Holiday Nerf

[Shawn Zipay]

Battlefield 3's lead designer Alan Kertz (Demize99) mentioned via Twitter that after having played around with the FAMAS with a foregrip attachment, the weapon is way too over powered.

After playing with and without fore grip on my FAMAS, not sure I could nerf it enough lol. Hmm, this one is a biiiiiiiiiit OP

Kertz went on to explain via Reddit why the weapon shipped in Back to Karkand in the state it did.

I was on vacation, I think the Back 2 Karkand team did a great job without me, and the FAMAS just demonstrates that the foregrip is OP. It's the only accessory without any downside.

Given that the FAMAS is very difficult to use without the foregrip, I can't really blame the team on B2K for having an item from the base game OP one of their additions. We'll get this sorted out and in the mean time, it's still only good at mid to close range.

Get that FAMAS whoring in while you can!

[jimykx]

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i just dont see how op it is compared to other weapons... i tried using it the first time and i didnt like it, i used it again with the grip and i still do better with other weapons

[Anarchy1]

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^ I agree, I don't think it's OP either. I've used it and I prefer many other guns over it. I know a lot of people were using it when they first unlocked it but now I can't remember the last time I was killed by one.

[jimykx]

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I've been playing with it a little bit more and i changed my opinion. It's not just balanced. IT SUCKS. Unless you have the grip and some scope attachment to replace the crappy iron sights it just sucks. Also it's clip is barely enough to kill two guys

[MrChris_CJ]

I thought it was ok tbh dominates at close but sucks at long, I don't use it I don't see how he is going to balance a foregrip, he can't just blanket rebalance it because it needs to apply different effects to LMGs etc on some of the ARs its fine, others its not sure I bet he puts some stupid ass effect in for the foregrip now, he just needs to make the flash supp more useful imo

[jimykx]

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The weapon sucks.

[CptainCrunch]

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So instead of improving the weapon without the grip, its time to break it with it.

[Anarchy1]

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If you've been reading through his Twitter, I think you can tell that he has no clue about attachments. He says the foregrip is OP because everyone uses it and there are no drawbacks. First of all, if everyone is using it, what's the issue? It's not as if some people have advantages over other people since everyone has access to it. Second, why does every attachment have to have a drawback to be balanced? Isn't there a default drawback of each attachment because you can't use the other attachments in that tier? Why not make the bipod better instead of making the foregrip useless? If you make the bipod a good option, then the drawback of using the foregrip is that you can't use the bipod. Bam, balanced.

And then earlier this week he was asking what we think certain attachments should do. Specifically, the flash suppressor. Isn't he the gameplay designer? Shouldn't he know what the attachments should do before the game is released? I feel like they just threw in a bunch of useless attachments to make more unlockables.

[jimykx]

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Yeah, its time for them to fix the freaking bipod already.. set a key to attach it. i hate it when i am prone and i want to quickly acquire an enemy and i deploy the damn bipod and get killed in the process

[The_Eliminator]

The balancing team on this game gets worse and worse :/

[Infernalis]

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The Famas is good at close range, like a PDW on steroids but it's meh at medium range and crap at long range. It's like the G3 stupid nerf, they have no clue how to balance.

[jimykx]

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Making weapons suck and bad compared to others does not mean they are balanced.... It seems to him balanced weapons are weapons nobody uses

[*FMJ*Power]

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And then earlier this week he was asking what we think certain attachments should do. Specifically, the flash suppressor. Isn't he the gameplay designer? Shouldn't he know what the attachments should do before the game is released? I feel like they just threw in a bunch of useless attachments to make more unlockables.

I facepalmed on that one too, it's a sad day when a games developer isn't even familiar with his own carrot and stick system.

it's this is the new approach to game development, not design a better game or fix the sub par net coding, just find new carrots to dangle in front of players faces and nerf the living shit out of everything else.

[idontcare]

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Well the hopes for this game getting better are dead, can't wait to see what other ridiculous changes come with this little treat. If they try alittle harder all the servers will be empty, way to go Dice!!!

[Anarchy1]

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Making weapons suck and bad compared to others does not mean they are balanced.... It seems to him balanced weapons are weapons nobody uses

Seriously. Some of the weapons are well balanced. AEK, M416, M16A3 - I choose between them depending on the map and situation. They are balanced as not one is noticeably better than the others. But then there is the G3 which they nerfed to oblivion and now no one uses (as if anyone really used it before) and the AN-94 which is a complete piece of shit.