Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • CptainCrunch
    I am the 1%
    • Oct 2007
    • 12976

    #1

    Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

    Mtrooper sent me this information from CNN on the single player for Battlefield 3:


    Military-style, first-person shooter video games typically emphasize tactics and group play to achieve objectives. But a high-profile game due out this fall wants to break the mold by bringing story to the forefront.

    "Battlefield 3" (DICE, Electronic Arts) is the 11th game in the franchise and a sequel to the 2005 hit, "Battlefield 2." While the gameplay will feature combat across several different terrains and scenarios, developers at DICE also wanted to feature a compelling narrative to bring a new feeling to the typical military-shooter game.

    Executive producer Patrick Bach admits storytelling wasn't really a big focus in past installments of the "Battlefield" series.

    "You can have a great story, and if you don't have it in the right way, especially when it comes to a military shooter like 'Battlefield,' it just feels (arcade-like). It feels like a game rather than a real story about real people having this as a profession," Bach said.

    "Our biggest win, and the thing that stands out most, is when people see things we've done (with the new game) so far," he added.

    "It's the emotion and the grit and the physicality ... all of these small things -- everything from movement to lingo to storylines -- have to have emotion."

    To boost authenticity, Bach enlisted the help of Andy McNab, a highly decorated member of the British Army who worked on covert and overt special operations around the world. McNab is also an author and a consultant to Hollywood -- he advised Michael Mann on the 1995 crime thriller "Heat" -- which allowed him to translate his battlefield experiences into something the development team could put into the game.

    "Andy, coming from his career in real-world events and entertainment, was the perfect match to do this," Bach said. "We started out quite easy to see if we could get feedback (from him) on obvious stuff, but eventually that turned into feedback in most of the areas of the game."

    When McNab joined the project, DICE had already been working on the game for about two years. It was his first attempt in advising on a video game, but his experiences working on feature films helped him integrate quickly with the development team.

    "Working in film, there is a lot of creativity. But after a while that has to stop because within principal photography, there are other factors that restrict the amount of creativity you can have," McNab said. "But in games, it doesn't. What I found was everybody is a part of that creative process. Everybody wants to make it look good or sound good or get the story right."

    McNab says he was impressed by the amount of creativity that goes into building a video game. During motion-capture work he described each scene in real-world terms so the actors could portray the proper emotions.

    "There is a lot more flexibility and constant creativity, which is great," he said. "Obviously the game has got a story, which was one of the things that attracted me in the first place rather than just a shoot-em-up."

    Credible dialogue was particularly important, he says. Soldiers in the game needed to have the right words and inflections to accurately reflect what solders in the real world are doing.

    "Words like 'will try to,' 'maybe,' 'we will attempt' -- they don't exist," McNab said. "It's all about 'you will,' 'I will,' 'we will.' Everything is positive and all dialogue is progressive because you need that start point to make all actions work."

    McNab didn't write the script for the game, but as the story developed graphically, he began adding details and elements to create a more realistic feel.

    Getting the right emotions was key in putting together "Battlefield 3" and setting it apart from other military games, Bach says.

    "We actually wanted to move the genre forward by creating deeper emotions, more physical presence in the world ... the most sophisticated 'Battlefield' experience (yet)," he said.

    Bach said the single-player narrative will immerse players both physically and mentally in the game's characters. There is also another story for the game's multiplayer action that he thinks will get people talking with their friends.

    Test players say, "This game gives me a completely new feeling when I play it, but can't really pick out why.' I think that's our biggest win."

    And the story doesn't stop when the game ends.

    McNab penned a new novel based on one of the characters in the game, a Special Forces operator named Dmitri "Dima" Mayakosky. Dima is a Russian who is prepared to do whatever it takes to get the job done.

    "It is impossible for any single medium to fully capture the emotion and intensity of war. The 'Battlefield 3: The Russian' novel is one window into the experience, and the game is another," McNab said.

    "It just evolved (while working on the game). It seemed a natural progression to do a book because there was still a story to tell. Maybe we can get someone who is playing the game to actually pick up a book."


    With the news of a book going deeper into the single player story of Battlefield 3, it is possible that there is a great single player campaign being made. With the large team DICE has working on Battlefield 3 and the creative people they have brought in, could this be a blockbuster single player? The story on Call of Duty 4 was very immersive so could Battlefield top that?

    Source
    Twitter: @CptainCrunch
    Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch
  • stilla-killa
    CantGetRight
    • Aug 2005
    • 5905

    #2
    Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

    I just hope it last longer than COD singleplayer. I think a length of 10 hours would be awesome.

    Comment

    • K-16
      ...
      • Aug 2026
      • 2016

      #3
      Didn't Medal of Honor (2010) attempt this already? And didn't they have a team of Tier 1 operators consulting for the game? How is DICE approaching this differently?

      Comment

      • Mtrooper
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 65

        #4
        Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

        Originally posted by K-16
        Didn't Medal of Honor (2010) attempt this already? And didn't they have a team of Tier 1 operators consulting for the game? How is DICE approaching this differently?
        If I remember correctly, the singleplayer of MoH was developed by Danger Close studios, with the multiplayer by DICE. I agree, this formula does not seem to have worked for Danger Close, although I suppose we have to have faith in DICE to make a competent single player.

        Comment

        • -Shifty-
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 2525

          #5
          Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

          I like a good story in my games. I enjoy multiplayer for teamwork and the lonewolf times of mindless entertainment. A good single player really gives a game great depth. I loved playing the single player of Call of Duty 4, then seeing those maps in the multiplayer.

          I haven't played too many games where I really felt like I was a part of something, but of those are games like Crysis, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Brothers in Arms, Call of Duty 4, and so on...

          I want the AI to be useful and have characters though. I didn't like how I did all the work in the single player of COD4. There needs to be more moments where you rely on your team to make you attached to them.

          Comment

          • CptainCrunch
            I am the 1%
            • Oct 2007
            • 12976

            #6
            Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

            Originally posted by K-16
            Didn't Medal of Honor (2010) attempt this already? And didn't they have a team of Tier 1 operators consulting for the game? How is DICE approaching this differently?
            Well, one thing that is different that could work in their favor is that the SAS guy they are using also rights exciting books. So if they use some of his ideas in the story-line, which we dont know if they did or not, then it may be very well done.

            Which IW did that for CoD4s story line.

            Crunch
            Twitter: @CptainCrunch
            Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

            Comment

            • Infernalis
              Yatta
              • Jul 2007
              • 1579

              #7
              Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

              I'm interested by this single player and how they tried to capture and transcribe the emotion and intensity of war.

              Comment

              • MrChris_CJ
                Mudkips
                • Jul 2005
                • 2610

                #8
                best way would be, when you are shot in game, you get shot in real life, they could make loads off an exclusive Battlefield monitor that does that for you or something

                Comment

                • Anarchy1
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1546

                  #9
                  Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

                  Originally posted by K-16
                  Didn't Medal of Honor (2010) attempt this already? And didn't they have a team of Tier 1 operators consulting for the game? How is DICE approaching this differently?
                  I personally enjoyed the MoH storyline. I don't think the implementation was very good though, but DICE didn't actually do it.
                  Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

                  Comment

                  • -Shifty-
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2525

                    #10
                    Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

                    Originally posted by MrChris_CJ
                    best way would be, when you are shot in game, you get shot in real life, they could make loads off an exclusive Battlefield monitor that does that for you or something
                    I'll remember to write my will and one of those before-battle "good bye" letters than when I pop the BF3 disk in to play.

                    Comment

                    • Rambo
                      TBF FOREVER!
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3022

                      #11
                      Jebus more single player talk. I hope for they're sake single player goes for 40+ hours because after its finished in 10 hours no one will give a toss about single player.

                      Comment

                      • CptainCrunch
                        I am the 1%
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 12976

                        #12
                        Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

                        I hope the single player has jets in it that you can fly around and do all that, just like multiplayer of the game.

                        Crunch
                        Twitter: @CptainCrunch
                        Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

                        Comment

                        • Rambo
                          TBF FOREVER!
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3022

                          #13
                          haha bombing botsI hope there is millions of them

                          Comment

                          • Minmaster
                            I DON'T PLAY CS!
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 4112

                            #14
                            Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

                            what's next? female soldiers? military romance? soap?

                            Comment

                            • Anarchy1
                              Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1546

                              #15
                              Re: Battlefield 3 Developers Trying to Bring Emotion to Single Player

                              Originally posted by Minmaster
                              what's next? female soldiers? military romance? soap?
                              Done...

                              Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

                              Comment

                              Working...