IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

[CptainCrunch]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

They are douches and liars on top of that. They are already copying two things from WaW:

Spec-Op mod = Co-Op mode from Treyarch. Call a pepsi a coke, its still a pepsi.

Sticky Grenades on 402s head = Sticky grenades from WaW, but its a smaller one, so it must be different.

Also, in my opinion, they are STEALING ideas from mods made for CoD4, that AC130 gunship is identical to the one in the maximum mod. I think thats the name of it.

IW has no new ideas. They are expanding perks/killstreaks (old), taking stuff from modders, and already copying what Treyarch has done.

Can't wait to see what else matches up that IW will take credit for.

Crunch

[CptainCrunch]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

AND ANOTHER THING. Here are some things treyarch got right that IW didnt:

Grenade splash damage.
Perks to help prevent martydom/grenade launchers.
Perks to help throw grenades back.
Prestige
More than 4 classes (with prestige)
Killstreak that you can at least fight back against.
DLC
Vehicles (Many liked the vehicles in the other CoD)

Because of the two divisions not talking to each other during the new CoD creations they made a lot of the same mistakes like hit detection, crash to desktops, and sound issues. I wonder what problems we will see again in MW2?

Crunch

[Misnomer]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

CptainCrunch is compeltely right and I challenge the modding community to hold Bowling to his words when the game is released. Won't be hard to see if things are cut and paste from COD5. IW is known for leaving residue from past games in theirs....who knows what engine stuff they might have taken from Treyarch too.

I expect at least to see the login system for W@W copied into COD4.2 (MW2 if you insist).

Oh, the mod was the X4 Extreme+ Mod. Video here.


Though this was code resurrected from within COD4, so it is less that IW is stealing from the mod as it is they are selling stuff that was already done for COD4 in COD4.2.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Oh, the mod was the X4 Extreme+ Mod. Video here.


Though this was code resurrected from within COD4, so it is less that IW is stealing from the mod as it is they are selling stuff that was already done for COD4 in COD4.2.

I do feel a little better knowing that the coding was already there. So I will recant the "stealing" part from modders.

Crunch

[JoMaMaz]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Yep, that is from the X4 mod by PST*Joker, one of the, if not the best modder for CoD games. The guy is amazing. And it kind of makes you sick they use that, unless they somehow give credit.

I can verify the bad code part as I used to be part of a mod for the original CoD and we wanted to do much more than just skins or maps. IW finally admitted to us that they had somewhat 'rigged' the code in a lot of areas and they couldn't just give us pieces...even though that is what they said they would do before CoD was ever released. That was a HUGE selling point after MoH that they would take CoD and release the code to modders who needed it. Needless to say, some of our elements from our mod made it into CoD:UO...what a coincidence we never got the code to get it out in our mod.

[Iwantcable]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

God damn 402 is such a prick.

I still prefer IW's games though.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

God damn 402 is such a prick.

I still prefer IW's games though.

Thats OK Cable. We must remember that he isnt all of IW and Activision, even though they made a bad choice in who is representing them.

I think thats what gets me the most. Do the majority of gamers really relate to him? Isn't that part of selecting a community guy? I just cant believe that the majority of gamers would act or agree that way.

Crunch

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Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Thats OK Cable. We must remember that he isnt all of IW and Activision, even though they made a bad choice in who is representing them.

I think thats what gets me the most. Do the majority of gamers really relate to him? Isn't that part of selecting a community guy? I just cant believe that the majority of gamers would act or agree that way.

Crunch

Have you never been on Xbox Live? Bowling knows his target audience.

[Iwantcable]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Have you never been on Xbox Live? Bowling knows his target audience.

So true...

[imported_youm0nt]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Also, in my opinion, they are STEALING ideas from mods made for CoD4, that AC130 gunship is identical to the one in the maximum mod. I think thats the name of it.

I remember on the IW forums that a lot of players wanted to have the AC130 for a kill streak in CoD4. So maybe the developers listened to the players?

[Immortal_Joker]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Developers yes I am sure they have no ill feelings towards Treyarch its just 402's attitude which is just frakked up. Why couldnt they have someone with Apoc's (C&C's Community Manager) caliber.

[CptainCrunch]

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Have you never been on Xbox Live? Bowling knows his target audience.

No, I havent. Im strictly a PC gamer. I do have a wii, but that doesnt count

But you are right, the target audience is the consolers, not the PC folks. We just provide the gas money, not the car or insurance.

Crunch

[garandx]

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Developers yes I am sure they have no ill feelings towards Treyarch its just 402's attitude which is just frakked up. Why couldnt they have someone with Apoc's (C&C's Community Manager) caliber.

I would love it if they fired 402 and just had JD_2020 do it, unlike 402 he's not a pretentious Douche and he doesn't have his head embedded up the rear ends of all the 360 players out there. Jd_2020 actually addresses those other community's, you know, the pc and ps3.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

I remember on the IW forums that a lot of players wanted to have the AC130 for a kill streak in CoD4. So maybe the developers listened to the players?

Players say no martyrdom/laststand/grenade launchers. Players say they want a way to better kill the heli as its just an aimbot that you cant hide from. Players say the grenades are too powerful and damage widespread. Players say there are bugs with some of the guns and their attachments.

Maybe they are listening, but I dont recall the gaming community saying we need more powerful killstreaks.

Crunch

[garandx]

Re: IW Will Not Copy Anything from CoD:WaW

Players say no martyrdom/laststand/grenade launchers. Players say they want a way to better kill the heli as its just an aimbot that you cant hide from. Players say the grenades are too powerful and damage widespread. Players say there are bugs with some of the guns and their attachments.

Maybe they are listening, but I dont recall the gaming community saying we need more powerful killstreaks.

Crunch

Martyrdom will never go away, 402 publicly stated during the height of the hate for it that he loved the perk and that most of Iw did too and it wasnt going anywhere.

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