Operation Blue Pearl is the New BF2/BF2142 Map

[The_Eliminator]

Re: Operation Blue Pearl is the New BF2/BF2142 Map

Many people wont even see this patch because when it is released they will more likely be playing all the other games released such as CoD4:MW2, BC2 etc.

This is just a way to "keep us in the loop".

[12:oc7ock]

Re: Operation Blue Pearl is the New BF2/BF2142 Map

Many people wont even see this patch because when it is released they will more likely be playing all the other games released such as CoD4:MW2, BC2 etc.

This is just a way to "keep us in the loop".

BC1 is $hit, and BC2 will be as well. And besides, what BF2-PC gamers plays BC?

[troybob]

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No its not. Theres a massive difference between karkand infantry and cod4.
Again showing your lack of knowledge. I wonder why you bother to "contribute". If you can call it that.

This from the guy who was 12 when bf1942 was released. Of course there's a massive difference. If there was no difference then why would I argue that CoD4 is better?

Karkand no vehicles 24/7 is for people that miss what bf was all about - teamwork and massive battles! Karkand with vehicles is great IMO - but no vehicles just takes the BF out of the map.

I think I've been a fanboy of this franchise long enough to have an opinion about it. You probably don't even recognize the sig.

Oh any by the way, when I say "critisism"; it means it's my opinion. I didn't call anyone a moron for having an opinion (in this thread anyways).

[Kylee!]

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BC1 is $hit, and BC2 will be as well. And besides, what BF2-PC gamers plays BC?

I do, and BC1 was awesome by contrast.

Awesome sound, decent gameplay, actually - a whole NEW gameplay -, and amazing graphics.

I'm looking forward to BC2 a lot.

As for this... For everyone who is saying that Dalian, Oman, etc. are all beach landing maps, the devs are talking about an OMAHA BEACH SCENARIO, not a lets fly a bunch of planes and helicopters everywhere and cap random bases.

The devs are looking for amphibious invasion type action where players have to use landing craft to land in a certain spot and secure the area.

[DontKnockIt225]

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This from the guy who was 12 when bf1942 was released. Of course there's a massive difference. If there was no difference then why would I argue that CoD4 is better?

Karkand no vehicles 24/7 is for people that miss what bf was all about - teamwork and massive battles! Karkand with vehicles is great IMO - but no vehicles just takes the BF out of the map.

I think I've been a fanboy of this franchise long enough to have an opinion about it. You probably don't even recognize the sig.

Oh any by the way, when I say "critisism"; it means it's my opinion. I didn't call anyone a moron for having an opinion (in this thread anyways).

It all depends on what your looking for. Theres many reason why I prefer BF2 karkand to cod4.

Capture the flag,
more teamwork in the sense of medics, ammo and squads
Inaccurate guns - means you can get right in the action rather than dieing to anyone half way accross the map.
Bunny hop and dolphin dive more effective in BF2.
Can't shoot through walls.

Bf2 infantry is nothing like cod4 or CS:S. Its like comparing a midfielder to a defender in football. The only similarities are that they both use guns, and are team oriented games.

PS. I know far more about infantry in bf2 than you lol. You cannot discredit me by saying I am young. This is a low tactic, and also highlights your terrible argument lol.


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With the new map, perhaps better boats will be produced that can take maybe 2 or 3 hits. This is unlikely, however.

But then I am confident there will be many jet skis. These are very hard to kill with rocket launcher or sniper rifle. Dice are not stupid they have made some brilliant maps, almost no map is bad in BF2 or 2142 so have some faith :).

[RangerXML]

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There is hope for the future, check out ARMA II. Hopefully this time people actually play the game, the trailer reminds me of the BF2 opening.

As for this map...err...they had to increase the infamous fog (who here remembers the N64, we love fog). We all know the game can hand no fog with the viewing distance cranked, friends and I even played on de-fogged map mods with older hardware, was a blast. And the description, what the heck.

[Wizrdwarts]

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This from the guy who was 12 when bf1942 was released. Of course there's a massive difference. If there was no difference then why would I argue that CoD4 is better?

Karkand no vehicles 24/7 is for people that miss what bf was all about - teamwork and massive battles! Karkand with vehicles is great IMO - but no vehicles just takes the BF out of the map.

I think I've been a fanboy of this franchise long enough to have an opinion about it. You probably don't even recognize the sig.

Oh any by the way, when I say "critisism"; it means it's my opinion. I didn't call anyone a moron for having an opinion (in this thread anyways).

CoD4 and BF (even IO mode) is still different. CoD4 is less team oriented in TDM/Domination than BF2 Conquest. Only in S&D do you really see real teamwork, and that's not BF-style play. In CoD, you get a small map with your spawn chosen for you, regenerating health, and a fast spawn. BF has bigger maps with multiple areas to spawn in, teamwork (all the perks and items in CoD4 work equally well in FFA and in teams, can you say that about the BF2 defib or ammo packs?), and a 15 second spawn. Each to their own.

And troy, don't judge by age, it doesn't help your argument much. I think I was 9 or 10 when 1942 came out, does that mean my posts are even less valid than Dontknockit's?

PS: Desert Combat.

[WhardieJones]

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Why do all these maps always have a damn US uncap? This game is still rigged on the US side! This is unbelievable! I'm going to rape 500 USMC on wake island in retaliation!

NO UNCAPS AND NO SAFE ZONES FOR USMC

[dfour]

Re: Operation Blue Pearl is the New BF2/BF2142 Map

Inaccurate guns - means you can get right in the action rather than dieing to anyone half way accross the map.

If this is your excuse then you need to sort out your tactics better instead of just running full tilt in a straight line down the main street. The bf2 maps are much bigger than cod maps.

Bunny hop and dolphin dive more effective in BF2.

What a pathetic excuse. Anyone who needs to bunny or dolphin dive should get some skills or go play bf heroes. I hope (they wont) they totally nerf dolphin diving in the next patch then you will have to develop some 'leet' skills instead of abusing the game system.

Can't shoot through walls.

So you expect to be able to hide in a wooden hut from a .50 cal then and not get hit?? BF2's weapon penetration is rubbish and inconsistant. 5.56 and 7.62 rounds should be able to penetrate some buildings and shoot through some types of cover. Its reality deal with it and adjust your tactics accordingly.

This map is going to be hard for the US (especially IO) and thats why they have an uncap. As long as there are plentyful rib's some will get through.

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[Sudano]

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I smell lots of dying before I get to the island... Maybe they should make the middle two flags grey so the ****** cant spawn and take us out within three seconds

[Crandaddy]

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I'm absolutely glad that (someday) DICE is giving us a patch (changlist?) I'm not hearing that the patch addresses the complaints of the community though. It seems like a maintenance patch.

You said it! The "Patch" has been brought up before (several months ago) by DICE. If memory serves me correctly, the "patch" had ONE (1) MAIN PURPOSE in life. To put a stop to all the players who are spoiling the game and making other players leave BF2/BF2142 for Cod4. Makes one wonder after all this time, if there is a monetary ($) purpose for the patch???

Like stopping all the people who have these incredible ranks (I have see a colonel and a general) and high scores, and when you look on there profile, they have NO MEDALS!!!

Something fishy going on there...:wave:

[troybob]

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CoD4 and BF (even IO mode) is still different. CoD4 is less team oriented in TDM/Domination than BF2 Conquest. Only in S&D do you really see real teamwork, and that's not BF-style play. In CoD, you get a small map with your spawn chosen for you, regenerating health, and a fast spawn. BF has bigger maps with multiple areas to spawn in, teamwork (all the perks and items in CoD4 work equally well in FFA and in teams, can you say that about the BF2 defib or ammo packs?), and a 15 second spawn. Each to their own.

And troy, don't judge by age, it doesn't help your argument much. I think I was 9 or 10 when 1942 came out, does that mean my posts are even less valid than Dontknockit's?

PS: Desert Combat.

Ok I see you're point.

My analogy was more towards the hit detection and feel of the infantry combat in CoD4 without the features that set the titles apart in a general way (auto-heal, faster pace).

CoD4 was built as an infantry based FPS while BF2 had many areas to focus on. Infantry combat in BF2 is miles ahead of BF1942. However, certain frustrating constraints in BF2, like the random cone of fire, are limitations that is not seen in CoD4. When you talk about infantry only karkand (24/7), it seems to me like you are looking for something more like CoD4.

If bf2 had the hit detection and weapon authenticity of CoD4 - then there wouldn't be much of a draw to playing anything but BF2.

I hope that clears up my point. I suppose I was just venting my frustration at the vast numbers of karkand 24/7 servers.

And you are right to correct my about the age thing. It was a hollow attempt at saying i knew the franchise better. My bad.

[DontKnockIt225]

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If this is your excuse then you need to sort out your tactics better instead of just running full tilt in a straight line down the main street. The bf2 maps are much bigger than cod maps.

What?? I like fighting up close. Bf2 allows this, it is what draws me to the game. For me its far more enjoyable to be right up close aiming for a head shot than 50m away lieing prone aiming at at a 2 pixel dot.

What a pathetic excuse. Anyone who needs to bunny or dolphin dive should get some skills or go play bf heroes. I hope (they wont) they totally nerf dolphin diving in the next patch then you will have to develop some 'leet' skills instead of abusing the game system.

Many players love bunny hop and dolphin dive. Not everyone wants to play realistic games, we like arcade games. The developers purposely left bunny hop and dolphin dive in the game. Sounds to me you are a player looking for realistic fps game. Perhaps bf2 is not the best game for you.

So you expect to be able to hide in a wooden hut from a .50 cal then and not get hit?? BF2's weapon penetration is rubbish and inconsistant. 5.56 and 7.62 rounds should be able to penetrate some buildings and shoot through some types of cover. Its reality deal with it and adjust your tactics accordingly.

Again not looking for realism. No BF2 player is looking for realism lol.
You noob LOL you dont deserve a forum account.

Ok I see you're point.

My analogy was more towards the hit detection and feel of the infantry combat in CoD4 without the features that set the titles apart in a general way (auto-heal, faster pace).

CoD4 was built as an infantry based FPS while BF2 had many areas to focus on. Infantry combat in BF2 is miles ahead of BF1942. However, certain frustrating constraints in BF2, like the random cone of fire, are limitations that is not seen in CoD4. When you talk about infantry only karkand (24/7), it seems to me like you are looking for something more like CoD4.

Random cone of fire? Are you kidding? I dont think you know how to handle recoil lol. The guns are inaccurate to people with little knowledge of recoil control. This statement shows your clear lack of knowledge of infantry combat in BF2 yet you still try to argue lol.

If bf2 had the hit detection and weapon authenticity of CoD4 - then there wouldn't be much of a draw to playing anything but BF2.

Another major difference is the amount of hits needed to kill a player. In bf2, at the higher levels, headshots are a necessity when fighting CQC. In cod4 this is not so essential. This was a major put off in cod4 for me.

I hope that clears up my point. I suppose I was just venting my frustration at the vast numbers of karkand 24/7 servers.

And you are right to correct my about the age thing. It was a hollow attempt at saying i knew the franchise better. My bad.

I accept your apology. Thankyou wizardwartz. :thumbsup:

[troybob]

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Random cone of fire? Are you kidding? I dont think you know how to handle recoil lol. The guns are inaccurate to people with little knowledge of recoil control. This statement shows your clear lack of knowledge of infantry combat in BF2 yet you still try to argue lol.

it's foolish to argue with me when you obviously don't know how bf2 is coded. if you don't know about the random cone of fire EVEN ON THE FIRST SHOT - then you are obviously using invalid premises for your argument.

CoD4 is more realistic in the fact that the gun recoils instead of simply expanding the cone of fire. In bf2 - automatic fire increases your cone of fire and your bullet will randomly chose a degree of inclination to leave the barrel.

in CoD4 the bullet always flies straight out of the barrel. the entire gun recoils which affects accuracy (as in real life). So inaccuracy in full auto is achieved by having the barrel of the gun move around.

the point is that it is two ways to achieve the same result: increased accuracy through burst firing. BF2 implemented it wrong. CoD4 implemented it right.

I'm not sure if this is a matter of opinion than a matter of fact.

You can keep pretending I don't know what I'm talking about - but I assure you that I do.

Another major difference is the amount of hits needed to kill a player. In bf2, at the higher levels, headshots are a necessity when fighting CQC. In cod4 this is not so essential. This was a major put off in cod4 for me.

I disagree with this. I'm afraid you may be confusing hardcore mode in CoD4 with the normal mode.

Headshots are a necessity in CQC in CoD4 as much as in bf2 when in "softcore" mode. It sounds like you were put off because of hardcore mode. I may be wrong though - perhaps you also felt the same about softcore mode.

[Wizrdwarts]

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BF2 has horrible accuracy for most guns even while scoped. 2142 is a bit better but CoD games have always had very accurate guns while sighted. It's just the way the games are designed. BF2 is slower because of the way the guns are designed, and the hitboxes just aren't done right.

Just play whatever damn game you want and quit arguing about it online.