News Direct From The Front

[BEEX]

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the dice live team is always giving the community bad info.
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as for mods for bf2,its probly best for all teams to finish up and move onto other engines,the majority of bf2 players arent prepared to give up their stats for even a full conversion mod,yet theyll pay good money for xpacks,i just dont get it!..lol....i would pay money for a mod,if its a full conversion or close to.
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as for mod support,most mods want and need a ChildPlayerControledObject function so we can do remote controlled vehicles and add damge systems,they added it to bf2142 so i dont see what the big deal is about adding it to bf2.
and they need to fix the physics so we can add moving aircraft carriers.
not a big ask really.
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oh and alot of mods needed the animated vehicle feature for bf2,a few mods shut down cuz it was missing...but to no suprise they added it to bf2142...thanx!

[RocketChild]

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he's a member here but he's almost never online, he's always on TBF2142,

i wonder if i ban him will he notice..

Funny you mention that, because I used to monitor how often he logged in here. Kinda like stalking. MyIS closed down the suggestion threads area and I don't know if that helped in him not showing up much.

I really pestered him for months and months on end to allow custom ranked community made maps. It seemed like a perfect way to keep more and more ranked servers paying to host maps. Instead, people fizzed out of playing Karkand and Sharqi. I certainly find myself in SF all the time now because it is the only area were I feel like it is different.

Hell if they could have just made a patch integrating the two SF/Vanilla and allowed for ranked maps with Euroforces or Armored Fury equipment, there would have been an explosion in ranked servers.

Now, I guess as being said Mods are going to be the only lifeblood left in BF2 for the future. But it is not going to generate as much revenue for EA/DiCE as all the potential they had months ago.

They missed the boat. Their window is closing. I think we are going to see Id come back into the picture and show all these chump players (like DiCE) how to build a game and support it. Because as far as I am concerned only Blizzard and Id really know how to support a game...and to some extent Epic and/or Valve.

[imported_Rhino]

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I have had a chance to speak with [EAUK]guys they are not like everyone makes them out to be. True EA has the final say, but they can "possibly" turn this around and make it better. Besides what is dice working on right now???? More BF stuff?

Sure there are afew good guys in EA/DiCE, but the people at the top are the ppl who count and they dont care about us. But there are some guys that yes, are cool in EA/DiCE but at the end of the day, they just do what they are told from the ppl at the top.

[The Defeatest]

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I second that. If they arnt making money then you wouldnt have ranked servers. You know the money to upkeep there database for the ranking system has to be a large figure, and im sure the High prices u pay for a ranked servers trickles down to EA.

Like others have mentioned here, its a little to late for Ea or Dice to try to save face.

"Word of mouth" has pretty much done the damage. I know Ive told at least 24 people over the last 3 mths not to buy the game, but wait till it hits the $9.99 bin at BestBuy which isnt that far away now.

I am amazed you say that you have told 24 people to not buy this game D_Fast.
I don't know you but I've seen you around here alot and sure do appreciate the work you and the guys over at POE are doing. But why would you or anyone else for that matter tell someone not to buy BF2?? Where the heck do you get off. It is still a great game and nothing out right now compares to it. Did you not want those 24 people playing POE? Forgive me for saying this but the mod guys - and I love you all!!!- are the biggest complainers of all! I know all the reasons why you complain. But you guys are the leaders of this community aren't you? People dont come to TotalBF2.com to see what Dice has planned.... They come to see your guys plans for great mods.

Sorry if I'm coming off as harsh but man this community is just becoming more and more negative. The more people you get to buy the game the more chances there are that they will play mods!

So folks quit blaming DICE and EA for people not playing mods! People are people and DICE came up with something that people want to play for whatever reason, and that reason is theirs!

Mods have to entice people to play for different reasons. That's part of your job.

Oh ya and I don't know SH#T! :)

[Sauerkraut]

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your cd exploded. lies. plastic doesnt do that unless containing compressed air. and you didnt enjoy SF? what do you expect if you played for 5 mins. i take it your one of those people that turn a film off after 10 mins if they havent seen what they wanted or dont understand it

Well it did have a small crack in it, and yes once the DVD started rotating in the drive it burst, or would I destroy my DVD myself?
Well the 5 min of me playing SF was exaggerated, but the I enjoyed some of the mods more

[Crandaddy]

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your cd exploded. lies. plastic doesnt do that unless containing compressed air.

Hummmm, You really need to rethink your reply! CD/DVD's can and do come apart in the drive. It is not common, but it happens enough.

BF2142 is EA focus for one simple reason… The patches for 2142 are to keep the game playable, because they have more “Booster Packs” (i.e. like Northern Strike) they wish to sell ($$$$$$) to the 2142 players.
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Why they believe the BF2 players would not want more “Booster Packs” tends to fall under the current belief that they are hoping they (the BF2 players) will either:
A) Get tired of BF2 and move on to 2142 (i.e. more $$$$$ for EA) or
B) They will release a new game and BF2 players will buy it (i.e. more $$$$$ for EA - EA makes more money when you buy a NEW game verses a "booster pack")
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It's just sad…

Still True!

[zuiquan1]

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Sorry if I'm coming off as harsh but man this community is just becoming more and more negative.

truth can be a b*tch sometimes man......

So folks quit blaming DICE and EA for people not playing mods! People are people and DICE came up with something that people want to play for whatever reason, and that reason is theirs! Mods have to entice people to play for different reasons. That's part of your job.

learn a little about what we have to deal with, then come back and continue with your preaching.....

Until then I have nothing more to say.....

[Jblankster]

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its funny how dice is all up in total 2142 but not a single person here.....

[The Defeatest]

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I understand a little bit about what you go through, but dude DICE and EA dont owe you or me sh#T! And I'm not preaching, hope people got that from the last line in my post. It's easy to be negative.

[Lobo[FH]]

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I am afraid to say BF2 is the last stage in the age of great mods for the Battlefield Franchise, quote my words.

Sweet words don't make mods

[machstem]

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- Fixed the missing server info on the map briefing screen

This is the only thing that matters to me. Knowing which server I am on so I can tell my friends which server to join me on, considering there's no buddy system.

It used to work, then it stopped working with an early patch. 1.41 (above quote) promised it fixed, it never was.

I dunno, I don't really care when people say things like "they won't support it anymore" and then others say "yeah, well, yeah, we still do...don't you worry"...all I care for is the simple things about a game, like knowing which server you are on, being able to play, etc. The gameplay and mechanics aren't bothersome to me, or else I'd of stopped playing a long time ago. Fix the things that USED to work, and I'll be happy.

Oh, and a nice little tweak to make the AA missiles hit their intended targets and not friendlies would be nice, but I'll take server info first over all other "fixes".

I'll believe it when I see it.

PEACE

[BEEX]

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i know we modders complain alot about bf2 but ya gotta understand we are bf2's biggest fans,we live in the game not just play it...lol.
our negativity spawns from our frustration toward the engine and its serious limitations,also we are kinda crappy with ea and dice for their lack of mod support as they said there would be lots of it,its awesome we got the editor and export tools to build our stuff which we all appreciate,but it pretty much just got handed to us without any instruction manuals of any kind,we only got 8 very vauge tutorials and a few questions answered,the rest has been figured out by a mojority of the mod community.
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i think they should port all the fixes and additions from the bf2142 engine back to bf2,seeing as they are the pretty much the same engine i imagine it would be some work for the guys at dice,but would be well worth the effort and money...it would be a huge patch!.
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or they could make a bf2 expack for bf2142 and make the expack dirt cheap...hint,hint!
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in no way do i feel ea and dice owe us anything,i just feel its in their best intrest for reputation reasons to right their wrongs.
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what do you do when you buy food thats bad?,you either throw it away or take it back and complain ,and or never purchase that product again...simple logic for any business.

[ww2freak]

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Let's be real....supporting BF2 doesn't SELL more copies of BF2. They have sold 2+ million copies. If they support 2142, they can still sell more copies of that.

What I find incredibly mindnumbing is that they never learned from the DC model. That's right...DESERT COMBAT. Do you know how many copies of BF1942 were sold just so people could play DC????????


One word....idiocy.

Mod support SELLS MORE COPIES OF THE VANILLA GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vanilla BF1942 is currently running on Forgotten Hope's back (one of the few mods still running full servers everyday).

[kysterama]

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i think they should port all the fixes and additions from the bf2142 engine back to bf2

AGREED! How freakin cool would that be?! AI being able to target PCO's with AI templates would be brilliant as well as all the features you mentioned earlier Beex. Its really annoying these features popped up in 2142 and not also in a bf2 patch. If it were legal and not so time consuming, it would be interesting to port bf2 to the 2142 engine. Alas, we'll never see that in our lifetimes.

I'm looking with great interest at the new unreal2 engine (Frontlines fuel of war) as well as the modified quake3 engine used for Enemy Territory. Now there's two companies that know about mod support.

[imported_Rhino]

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i think they should port all the fixes and additions from the bf2142 engine back to bf2,seeing as they are the pretty much the same engine i imagine it would be some work for the guys at dice,but would be well worth the effort and money...it would be a huge patch!.

Well I think we have already asked this lots of times before ever since the BF2142 OB came out, I've really wanted the weather effects etc they had in 2142....