Forgotten Hope 2 Mod Update

[Augustus]

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http://www.serverspy.net/site/stats

BF2 consistently has more players than 2142.

[jimbob]

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Hey guys don’t waste your breath on people with their accounts specifically made to bag out FH2. Most of you genuine fellas are truly so far above these people. If you guys want a laugh go to rugus’ profile (whom I actually believe has been banned from here once before) and check out all his posts. Some people seriously have nothing better to do! Thank you to those who have taken the time to show their appreciation. It is YOU guys who spur the mod teams on in this unpaid, labour-intensive, labour of love :salute:


And to those who have to create accounts to try to put down a Modteam that is making a high quality mod for you all free of charge - SHAME ON YOU, SERIOUSLY, SHAME ON YOU. :shakehead

[Phazon]

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Driver view will be awesome. It will definately bring a new sense of immersion when driving the tanks. :)

[Bickus^Dickus]

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Looking good ,but once again how many more updates do we have to go through until release,we have seen everything from gun sights to different tanks to uniforms of brit soldiers to axis soldiers,whats next? pictures of desert weeds that were common in 1942.

Come on guys give us more ,everyone is higly anticipating the release but how long must we sit through these tit bits of updates,i have never seen a mod take this long to complete ,yes i know its free and all that but....

People are getting tired of all this cloak and dagger stuff we have come to expect from the forgotton hope team ,give us more information on what stage you are at? what is completed ? what needs more work etc etc.:wall:

[jimbob]

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Bickus. Dont come back. We know your opinion - and we dont need your negativity posted again and again and again and again in each update... Thats trolling - and is against this forums' code of conduct. If you dont like the way FH2 is producing their mod the answer is simple - Dont read their updates - Dont play FH2. If you have a problem with this forums' code of conduct - PM the moderators.

Thankyou - goodbye.

[*FMJ*Power]

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i can see where some people are coming from, they have been being spoon fed forgotten hope 2 for over a year, they are impatient to say the least but then again the hardcores know just how detailed and specific this mod is going to be, they accept the fact that it isnt out yet and welcome any bit of news, i can say im in that group, ill take any tidbit of news i can get because honestly, this isn't a mod its a new game but we cant blame the newbs for being impatient, lets face it , they will be needed as cannon fodder, heheh, and that mod-jive will only bring us more mod players so rather than flame them just give them a push in the right direction.

[Lobo[FH]]

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We have explained thousand times why is not posible to guess a release date in the moding world, this is the most honest reply to your question posible, but I don't know if you will acept the truth with maturity or come back in the next update with your same old song:

WHY WE WON'T TELL
Here is a detailed explanation of why we will not ever specify what date we are releasing, until the release date is a virtual certainty.

1. Any date would be a guess because
   • we don't know how long some critical tasks are going to take. This is especially true for things like coding but is also true of even (relatively) simple things like texturing of important vehicles, since each dev works at a different speed and has varying amounts of time to give to the mod.
   • We cannot guarantee the availability of every team member going forward--people have school, families and jobs, which often make unexpected demands which result in a formerly productive member becoming suddenly too busy to give much time to the mod.
   • We are still learning about the game engine. As we discover new things about it, we sometimes find that tasks which we thought were mostly "done" actually need more work, and other things that we though might require a certain amount of time may require more time, less time, or even be impossible.
2. Publishing a "progress bar" would be meaningless because:
   • It would be tantamount to giving an approximate release date, since it would be asserting "we have done "p" percentage of the work over "t" time", which would give the totally false impression that a date could be calculated by comparing elapsed time and percentage with the assumed remaining portion.
   • it would just be a list of models plus some arbitrarily selected features. How much time the individual features would take is unknown, and getting a bunch of models, skins and code in-game and making them all work smoothly together are very different things.

Any date we publish will therefore be totally made up and wrong, and furthermore, dishonest. The only incentive for us to invent an imaginary date would be to stop people from hassling us about the release date. Since we would just be inventing a date, we could either be really optimistic or super pessimistic. If we are super pessimistic, than everyone will get depressed and complain about that. If we are optimistic, we will probably be wrong, and than people will complain (somewhat justly) that we mislead them. So given that some people will complain, no matter what we do, we chose to truthful. Our only real choice is, "what do we want the complainers to be complaining about." We have chosen to have them complain about our being unwilling to speculate about release dates. At least they are complaining about a real thing, instead of being more justifiably peeved about a fake date which we merely pulled out of a stinky place to begin with.

You might say "why don't you make a conservative realistic date?" Well we can't because of everything I listed in the first part of the post. Calculating the amount of time needed for complex software--and even the first version FH2 easily qualifies as complex software--is an extremely difficult art, and not a science. Commercial software companies get it wrong all the time, sometimes spectacularly so. We have a lot less control over our own time and resources than any business, as we are developing this for free, in our spare time.

So, to sum up, even though we are making a huge complicated project, at a very high level of quality, and giving it away for free, to anyone that wants it, there will always be people that feel we are not doing enough for them, or not doing it right, or that we are being jerks because we are not feeding them enough details about our schedule. I don't really feel much sympathy. We have chosen to be honest about our plans and expectations, rather than trying to quiet the complainers by feeding them happy lies--lies that will eventually backfire and make people even more annoyed. Instead we try to show you regular updates, so you can see for yourselves that we are really making progress, and not just spinning our wheels.

We want the release date to arrive more badly than the most rabid fan. When we know what it is, we will tell you.

[imported_Casper]

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I support this team and however long it takes.

[[FHDev]Stranger]

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I support this team and however long it takes.

Thank you, its always nice to hear that. :)

[(BG)Patton]

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you have 1 week to make this the best Christmas ever, well, except for the first one.

[RAVENMkXV]

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man that is just beautiful, i wanna release really soon...but no word on that as yet, guess i just have to deal with anticipation
like the idea of the high explosive rds and armor piercing rds, will there be smoke rds too? maybe some incidinary?...

[Bickus^Dickus]

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Bickus. Dont come back. We know your opinion - and we dont need your negativity posted again and again and again and again in each update... Thats trolling - and is against this forums' code of conduct. If you dont like the way FH2 is producing their mod the answer is simple - Dont read their updates - Dont play FH2. If you have a problem with this forums' code of conduct - PM the moderators.

Thankyou - goodbye.

Im sure your a asset to the team ,whats your job in the team jimbob? teaboy?

"Hey jimbob put the kettle on":laugh:

We have explained thousand times why is not posible to guess a release date in the moding world, this is the most honest reply to your question posible, but I don't know if you will acept the truth with maturity or come back in the next update with your same old song:

Yeah but a year.....

[[GCA]Tim270]

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I was waiting for the classic anti-FH post from bikus , dude grow up , they have already stated that there doing this out of there own time for us . stop bashing them and learn to appreciate.

[Lobo[FH]]

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Yeah but a year.....

Sure, 2007

[DoubleVee]

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LOL, this makes me laugh inside everytime! Every single FH2 update, there are always some pricks who start whining about the FH2 progress and ask for release dates!