Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

[subzero nautica]

I play Sharqi most of the time when i play BF2 Vanilla.

Prior to Patch 1.2, there was always a modest amount of snipers playing this map who would hide in the crane tower. I never played a game where there werent at least two people in that tower, scoring 10+ kills a game.

After Patch 1.2, i noticed the sniper class jumped due to the new L96. I even had some games were you could spit in any direction and hit a sniper because everyone wanted to use that new gun.

However since Patch 1.21, i noticed the sniper class as dwindled down. The few people who choose the sniper class usually hide somewhere on the ground and its been a long time since i seen anyone try to climb the Crane Tower, let alone snipe from there.

So i wonder what gives?

Are infantry weapons too accurate that snipers get slaughtered from this position too easily now?

I have had games were i got 29 kills by playing sniper from the Crane Tower. Yet, lately i find if i play sniper i score very little, its too hard to hit players and if you miss the one-shot one-kill then your done for.

[spitsfreeman]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

there all off playing the great wall lol, i cant say ive noticed less snipers since the patch. maybe some snipers stay low since the patch as its easyer to lay more claymores?

[kevin_d]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

its always been a problem, small arms is far too accurate with little spread in bursts. honestly, how accurate is a g36c goin to be when u shooting like 200ft up plus how far away he is from the base of the crane. trust me, guns dont shoot rounds all in a 5 foot radius, even in single fire, i have sometimes chosen a g36c over an l96 for sniping, higher rof and more accurate

[CommanderD]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

I still snipe, I think its even better now with the claymores not getting you teamkills.

[Paas]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

People don't play sniper as often because it really doesn't benefit the team in any form or fashion.

Not that I have a problem with snipers, but everything you can do someone else can do better. It's like Assault, everything Assault does Medic/Spec-ops can do much better. Everything Sniper's do, Medic/Spec-Ops can do better.

...after the "OMG - New Gun" effect wore off, people realised a simple equation that's so obvious in BF2; 'The Team with the most Snipers Loses'. It's just not an effective kit at doing what needs to be done, and that's taking flags.

{WP}Paas

[fzuazo]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

I feel snipers havn't changed much, however the only thing i think that nees changing for snipers is to make the image in the scope a little crisper, less fuzzy, a little more definition and maybe add more zoom. I think the problem lies in this brown/khaki "haze" that BF2 has there is really not that much color in the game...its like im playing monochrome. Also the commander and the quad leaders should be visually distinguishable form the rest of the grunt(again that is where the brown "haze" comes in).

If i'm at the flag south of the hotel on Karkand...i should be able to look over at the hotel and make out what weapons the soldiers are carrying...after all...i DO have a scope...but maybe thats just asking for too much realism.

[Paas]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

I feel snipers havn't changed much, however the only thing i think that nees changing for snipers is to make the image in the scope a little crisper, less fuzzy, a little more definition and maybe add more zoom. I think the problem lies in this brown/khaki "haze" that BF2 has there is really not that much color in the game...its like im playing monochrome. Also the commander and the quad leaders should be visually distinguishable form the rest of the grunt(again that is where the brown "haze" comes in).

If i'm at the flag south of the hotel on Karkand...i should be able to look over at the hotel and make out what weapons the soldiers are carrying...after all...i DO have a scope...but maybe thats just asking for too much realism.

Yep... yep, you are asking for too much realism.

At least you caught yourself.

{WP}Paas

[OCl]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

Snipers are a rare class. I missed them after 1.21 because of the claymores. :cry:

Snipers true strenght comes out when the sniper is in the right spot at the right time. But yeah, snipers aren't that valuable to the team than that life-saving medic next to you. If the sniper could kill the commander in good range, he has done something good and invaluable to the team.

[blizzard84]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

for some reason it feels like the accuracy of the rifle has dropped since the latest patch. a few times i have had the crosshairs on the guys head and i didnt even hit him.

[=IMO=THJones]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

Sniper in real life is like a hit man ou their to harrass or take out high value targets, in bf hes mainly a defensive class, setting claymores to protect a flag zone, using his grenades to defend the flagzone, and sniping and using his pistol top defend the flag zone, when i go sniper i get more kills defending than attacking, a sniper can defend against many but asault a enemy flag? fat chance...

[vbl]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

The reduction of max claymores caused the fairweather players to play something else.

[fzuazo]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

I honestly can't remember an occasion where i used up both claymores during one spawn/death cycle.....

I usually put one down behind where i set up my "tent" and then im usually either killed there or moving towards my next spot.

[Scotty]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

The reduction of max claymores caused the fairweather players to play something else.

Yup.

And assuming that the next patch makes the clays destructable again, you'll see even fewer people running around as sniper. That's fine by me. Means more rambo minded infantry running around for me to snipe. :)

[redrider]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

I like the crane on Sharqi. I got my vet pistol badge shooting from the top of it. The guys who used to play sniper moved on after the reduction in claymores. I am usually lucky enough to be able to get resupply when I use the 2 claymores that I spawn with. I usually have to move off and leave them is how I run out of them. I usually move about every 2 to 3 minutes anyway. I spend most of my time spotting stuff, and provideing cover fire for my mates. . . . . .Red

[Pilo-II]

Re: Has Sniper Class declined since 1.21 Patch?

They are still there but instead of hiding + sniping they are runing around with claymores.


Really - it's STUPID to run around as a sniper with other kits around - you will get killed - but hey., they will put their ****ing claymores everywhere, in every single ****ing place and it's just freaking annoying.