Assault class -- Basically useless?

[imported_Chubz]

No offense to anyone that plays as Assault most of the time (I play it some myself), but when you compare the Medic class to the Assault class, what advantages are there besides the nerfed (well, ALMOST nerfed) nube toob and a lame smoke grenade?

The noob tube does still work pretty well, and the smoke grenade may provide a little bit of cover if you need it, but besides those two things, what good is the Assault class even going to do you?

The Medic class offers the ability to heal and revive teammates, while packing you with an assault rifle that's nearly as good (if not, JUST as good) as the one the Assault class gets (minus the noob tube, that is.)

This means you're not only helping out the team, but you're getting TONS of points in the process, which come from healing, reviving, AND killing!

I know that this is a pretty common-sense-type argument that's been around pretty much since BF2 has been released, but now with the toning down of the noob tube, I just figured I'd bring it up again to see what everybody thinks... I've been wondering about this for a little bit now, and I honestly can't see any reasons at all to choose the Assault class over the Medic class.

[TITAN126]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Once you unlock the G3, you'll see the usefullness of the assault class.

[goaliemike]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Once you unlock the G3, you'll see the usefullness of the assault class.

Oh ya G3 owns and its underestimated and bearly used

[imported_Chubz]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Once you unlock the G3, you'll see the usefullness of the assault class.

I have the G3 unlocked, the only problem is that I haven't used it that much to really gain a meaningful opinion of it. I was mainly talking about the guns you get as soon as you start out with the classes. :laugh:

Just how good IS the G3 though? I mean, is it really THAT good?

If so, I may have just found my new savior! (Only minus the n00b tube.) :hmm:

[RingPirate]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

You're right Assault's are much less powerful than than Medics. Heavy Armor and Noob Toob compare in no way to the Medics mobility and ability to heal himself and others. Plus Medics unlock the better Assault rifles. The G36E is out of the question, it's an amazing weapon. The Einfield is a matter of taste. The F2000 is garbage and the Ak101 and M16 are good but Medics got them as well. So in the end the only thing Assaults are good for is the little graphic saying: Basic....Expert Assault Combat Badge.

I played the G3 alot. It's crap in may opinion. Compared to all the other Assault rifles except for the F2000 which is even worse. The G3 playes different so you have to adopt. You'll own at close range and find out that the weapon is no match at longer ranges.

[WarGimp]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Yeah... I'd agree that the assault class could use some TLC. I still play it fairly often, mostly for the G3 and the ability to cover me arse with smoke (I do find is handy), but compaired to other classes it's definatly not the strongest choise for most encounters.

[Marveric]

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the G3 owns end of story. 3 shots to kill unarmored, 4 to kill armored, at 600 RPM, what else can you want? Even the PKM, nerfed or unnerfered, can't match that.

Of course the medic can heal itself, but if you're in a squad and u have a medic already, then be assault. The smoke grenade is useful for escaping a tank or for providing cover for rushing Spec Ops, as well as crossing a street.

The body armor allows you to take 50% more damage. Combined with teh firepower of the G3, assault can take down any infantry 1-vs-1; I've even killed DAOs with it.

The F2000 is a piece of sh*t, only good thing is the flashbang.

Grenades are much more useful than the tubes, learn to cook the grenades in your hand instead of just chucking them.

[imported_Chubz]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Yeah... I'd agree that the assault class could use some TLC. I still play it fairly often, mostly for the G3 and the ability to cover me arse with smoke (I do find is handy), but compaired to other classes it's definatly not the strongest choise for most encounters.

Yeah, even when compared to other classes it really doesn't stack up very well.

When you compare it to the Spec Ops class, the Spec Ops has not only a great weapon, but C4 as well... AND even friggin' grenades! So even that matchup beats the Assault out of the picture.

I'm not sure what could be done to make the Assault class more useful... Perhaps giving them claymores instead of Snipers? If you think about it, the Assault class is geared toward infantry-to-infantry combat (Only nades for explosives; heavier armor; powerful assault rifle) , so giving them a few claymores would make them even better suited for such combat.

Anyways, just some personal suggestions.

the G3 owns end of story. 3 shots to kill unarmored, 4 to kill armored, at 600 RPM, what else can you want? Even the PKM, nerfed or unnerfered, can't match that.

I'll definitely take note of that and test it out the next time I boot up BF2...

Thanks for all of the replies guys! :)

[WarGimp]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

I'm not sure what could be done to make the Assault class more useful...

Well, given that their intended roll is rushers, I'd suggest making them the only class that breaks the armour/sprint model. They aren't hauling any oversized equipment around, they've got a general lighter loadout than anyother class, and they are supposed to be able to rush into close situations and dominate.

Make 'em the only class that has both mobility AND armour?

The other tweak that I'd like ta see is making the GLs a little more effective. They definatly got over-nerfed.

[RingPirate]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Make 'em the only class that has both mobility AND armour?

That would actually be a good idea. They don't suck that bad now, I'm only really disapointed with the unlocks. The EF Einfield seems to be a good choice but I've not really played it much. Some soldier told me once that if you point the G3 straight it'll shoot around the corner. In the game it's really not very accurate and has a bad recoil.

[Marveric]

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actually in my opinion I think spec ops is useless. C4 is only good for charging a tank and car bombing now. And the G36C is dead accurate and good for medium-long ranges, but sucks at CQC. SCAR-L is the exact opposite.

[imported_shadow_vision]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

I would like to see more smoke grenades , say 3-5 ? ALso, I dont like the G3 ... I dont see how ppl say it owns cuz I lose in gun fights all the time with it ... And no , Im not bad at gun fights, maybe I just dont know how to use this gun ... but for me ... it sux. If I had to choose PKM vs G3 or l8561 (or w/e the medic is) I would not choose the g3

[specter]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Why Does Everyone Think The Gl Is Bad Geez

[RingPirate]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

actually in my opinion I think spec ops is useless. C4 is only good for charging a tank and car bombing now. And the G36C is dead accurate and good for medium-long ranges, but sucks at CQC. SCAR-L is the exact opposite.

The G36C is the ghetto sniper, i liked it in Special Forces and used it alot on single shot. The SCAR-L i don't know. I don't really see it's advantage.

[Alcorr]

Re: Assault class -- Basically useless?

Assault isn't useless, but its nowhere near as useful/deadly as medic class. The ability to heal yourself alone is a serious advantage, I can't tell you how many times Ive been hit with an M95, and healed myself when out in the open while with assault I would have been .

Throw in the G36E and you have yourself a winner.

Not to mention the hordes of points you can get from reviving teammates.

Assault class needs the regular noob tube back, this delay crap is plain stupid . And 3 smoke nades per kit wouldn't be bad at all.