Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

[dandy]

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I strongly suspect that work on BF2142 started before BF2 shipped.

I would be suprised at all if the design doc existed in some form for about 4 years.

Your right! When BF2 was releast, DICE had already created an Prealpha build for BF2142

[WarGimp]

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Source?
Proof?

[mlkmnz]

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This would help explain why certain features (like different gametypes) weren't brought to light in BF2. Their real focus has been on their first love and have been quietly working on BF2142 all this time.
Thoughts?

Interesting theory, but if they had the capability/framework into the BF2 engine, why wouldn't they have put it in to begin with? Why would you release a sub-standard title and risk loosing your fanbase while waiting to release what you really wanted to?

Just doesn't seem plausible.

[TriggerHappy2005]

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I'm suggesting that BF2142 isn't a "spin-off" of BF2, but rather the intent for building the engine in the first place. At least, Dice's intent.

Since I've got no proof, but am suggesting this anyway... yeah, rampant speculation.

Then it's a theory not rampant speculation.

[WarGimp]

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Then it's a theory not rampant speculation.

Hehe... Well, I just wanted to make it clear that it's an unsupported theory.

[SergB]

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Soooooooo what? This isn't justify what EA have done in a first place, I mean, I didn't pay 50$ to be a research bunny, or beta tester for they fancy new engine. If they put a game together it should be a deceant one, not full of crapy bugs and unbalanced gameplay. Besides all those booster packs and crappy expansions, is just to get cash flowing, in the end its all about money for EA.

[WarGimp]

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in the end its all about money for EA.

Um... this is a suprise to you??
Yeah, EA is about the money. They're a publisher, that's what they do.

[SergB]

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Wargimp, yeah and shouldn't the publisher bring us some quality product for that heavy payment: BF2 Vanilla 50$ + SF 30$ + 2 Booster packs "must have" another 20$, and not to mention all upgrades I had to done on my sytem, just to run it smoothly. Its not like I hate BF2 its just they ruin the best FPS on the marked, time after time... and thats is just sad.

[N2K]

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I like that song by Exodus

[WarGimp]

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Wargimp, yeah and shouldn't the publisher bring us some quality product for that heavy payment: BF2 Vanilla 50$ + SF 30$ + 2 Booster packs "must have" another 20$, and not to mention all upgrades I had to done on my sytem, just to run it smoothly. Its not like I hate BF2 its just they ruin the best FPS on the marked, time after time... and thats is just sad.

I hear ya... but it's unfortunatly just the nature of the industry.

We the consumers are party to blame for it's kinda sorry state too.
We demand to be dazzeled by the graphics, have perfect *balance*, have very specific ideas of what *balance* means, expect it to run flawlessly on countless different home computer configurations, and oh yeah... it's gotta kick the snott out of every other game out there.

It's a tall order we place on devs and publishers alike. It's expencive and hard to produce these things. Yet when they don't get it done fast enough, out attention span wanes and we buy something else.


Two sided coin thing.

[big_sammy_b]

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you can say that but it doesn't get away form the fact that EA is by far the worst offender.

Take Rockstar games when was the last time they released a GTA game full of bugs?

And GTA kicks the snot out of every other game like that out there and then some. Some goes with lots of other publishers.

EA just pump out buggy unfinished crap that never even gets fixed hoping it will sell its not just BF2 its a similar story with most of there games.

They should be held accountable thorugh the correct legislation.

[WarGimp]

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Before you call EA the worst offender, I suggest you do some research some of the other big stinkers out there.

VUG and Atari both have wrose trackrecords in terms of pinching off their loaf too early and thus soiling themselves.

[Combined]

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You noobs!

Back when BF42 was released they did announce that it was going to be a series: they announced the vietnam era, modern combat, and a futuristic battlefield back in 2002. All of these games were planned, there is no surprise here. And this battlefield is the last one.

[Cap`N Hagen]

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I strongly suspect that work on BF2142 started before BF2 shipped.

I would be suprised at all if the design doc existed in some form for about 4 years.

I agree, it`s been my thought from the beginning that Dice`s lackluster approach towards bf2 meant something else had them preoccupied.

[Lith1um]

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Why the hell they decided to build a next gen shooter with a tired old graphics engine is beyond me.

Imo they should have waited on this concept untill they can approach the visual richness of something next gen like Quake Wars: Enemy territory.

2142 is basicaly a total conversion mod for BF2 imo.

All I can say is Blehhh.