Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

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  • WarGimp

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    Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

    Magnum opus

    from the Latin meaning great work, refers to the best, most popular, or most renowned achievement of an author, artist, or composer. For instance, Don Quixote is the magnum opus of Miguel de Cervantes, as In Search of Lost Time is the magnum opus of Marcel Proust, and as The Jungle is the magnum opus of Upton Sinclair. It can also refer to an individual literary or artistic masterpiece.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_opus

    Most of you long time Dice fans are likely to remember intereviews and comments they made way back when about how much the Tribes games influanced their development of the BF series. I also recall and interview in PC Gamer, way back when, where the dev crew was asked what their ideal project would be. The responded by saying how much they would love to do a large scale sci-fi based game on a tactical level.

    So I was remembering this and thinking about the development timeline involved in BF2 and it occured to me; maybe the whole point of BF2 was to use it as a stopgap project to bring to market while the focused on doing what they always wanted to do... make that sci-fi game a reality.

    This would help explain why certain features (like different gametypes) weren't brought to light in BF2. Their real focus has been on their first love and have been quietly working on BF2142 all this time.

    As I say in the thread title, this is wild speculation, but some facts fit 'n I thought I'd bounce it off you folks.

    It wouldn't be the first time a cover project was brought to market for the purpose of helping a "real" project become a reality.

    Thoughts?
  • imported_CannonFodder

    #2
    Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

    sounds good to me

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    • vbl

      #3
      Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

      I'm not sure about the implication that the BF2 engine was actually built with 2142 in mind, but the whole idea of a stopgap project might explain why they roped in the Desert Combat team - doing so ensured faster research, design and development of a game that they knew DC had experience with, and one that they weren't totally focused on anyway.

      Regardless, it's always safe to assume that games are in development for many months (or even years) before the announcement.

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      • jarm8181

        #4
        Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

        The fact that they immediately started work on BF 2142 after BF2 just shipped to the stores brings some credence to your theory. You don't just start working on a game that quickly without some preliminary planning and discussion of where the franchise should go. Clearly this was happening during and perhaps before BF2 development. I think you're on to something.

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        • WarGimp

          #5
          Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

          I strongly suspect that work on BF2142 started before BF2 shipped.

          I would be suprised at all if the design doc existed in some form for about 4 years.

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          • JarEme

            #6
            Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

            Sounds like wishful thinking. I think they just threw new models onto the existing engine so the development cycle is extremely short.

            The suits at EA cracked the whip and now DICE needs to spit out a quick cash grab game.

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            • imported_Icarus
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              • Apr 2006
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              #7
              Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

              Maybe Dice's contractual obligations to EA has certain timelimits and titles to new projects being released like a musician has to a recording studio.

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              • WarGimp

                #8
                Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                Dice doesn't actually have contractual obligations to EA anymore. Dice "merged" with EA just recently (ongoing, actually). This means no more contracts... just deadlines or pinkslips. :p

                With luck, this may streamline things a bit and allow Dice people to be more hands on with things like EA QA. It's certain to decrease paperwork.
                I just hope EA doesn't manage to suck the souls outta 'em.

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                • warfryx

                  #9
                  Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                  what next...? after BF2142??
                  my guesses:

                  battlefield space warrior?? BF DROID duels? Bf Cosmo warriors?

                  bF galaxy? BF the final frontier? BF planet wars?? lol

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                  • WarGimp

                    #10
                    Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                    No... next is BF: Retire Well
                    :p

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                    • warfryx

                      #11
                      Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                      last 1,,,, BF convalescent(home) conflict!! Grampa grenades??:evil:

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                      • *FMJ*Birdsht

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                        Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                        Some of you guys are so dumbed down its amazing. Sheep looking for a way to justify this garbage! Did you see the map, it looks like a pos old mechwarrior map. Typical square skyscrapers YOU CANT GO INSIDE. Flat city streets for thier junk mechs to walk around properly without their up down axis going haywire. This is crap pure and simple. If people wanted a jump to the future they would play one of the half dozen watered down halo games out there. This was the only thing they could come up with that isnt going to be done better by modders. They added a few things to make mechs possible to code, thats IT. You can see in the demo its the same BS engine and game. With blue flames from the guns instead of red. Oh yeah we can have 100ft tall mechs span raping.

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                        • TriggerHappy2005

                          #13
                          Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                          How is this rampant speculation?

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                          • big_sammy_b

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                            Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                            i have to say all it looks like to me if vanilla bf2 with different skins put on the tanks etc.

                            considering how SF was utter crap and i didn't buy euro forces for the same reason theres little chance ill buy this new one either.

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                            • WarGimp

                              #15
                              Re: Rampent Speculation: 2142 is Dice's Magnum Opus

                              Originally posted by TriggerHappy2005
                              How is this rampant speculation?
                              I'm suggesting that BF2142 isn't a "spin-off" of BF2, but rather the intent for building the engine in the first place. At least, Dice's intent.

                              Since I've got no proof, but am suggesting this anyway... yeah, rampant speculation.

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