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  • CaptJordus

    #31
    Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

    Originally posted by $kelet0r
    you can hear artillery being fired from anywhere on the map foo' :laugh: and when you see yourslef surrounded by teammates duh duh duh you are a big hit me sign for the enemy commander - i must be cheating so :laugh:
    as for armour - kill me once shame on you, kill me twice shame on me
    the minute you see armour immobile that kills you, respawn as AT and hit it twice - one dead tank in under 5 seconds

    so yes you must also suck - you shouldnt be finding yourself in those positions to start with a medic should be safe behind cover leading the charge offroad and away from armour - spawning on a flag should be a last resort

    No, hearing arty from anywhere on the map is a bug. Well its seen as a bug. Its either that or different sound cards are offering different levels of noise penetration.

    also, I notice arty falls more on lone squads than the huge group of lonewolfs.

    Say everyone is battling on karkand for the hotel, but one 6 man USMC squad makes it to the gatehouse....it almost always goes for the squad.

    But sometimes it doesnt, its just not THAT predictable unless your playing with the same commanders over and over.

    Also, Im not going to always spawn as AT when i see armor and die, because other people that are AT around me are busy taking it out....as i play in a squad 99.9% of the time and dont just walk around aimlessly. If my AT guys die, ill probably spawn and try to take out the offending armor if its still in the area, or in the area i want to spawn at. I sometimes find it more beneficial to spawn elsewhere and join the fight than to waste time fighting a tank/apc. 1 AT guy vs a full heatlh Tank/APC is usually certain death.

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    • $kelet0r

      #32
      Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

      what have my stats got to do with anything? they're fairly mediocre :)

      Teach us how to kill an armor with two shots in 5 seconds please...because according to your stats, it hasn't happened buddy....
      1 AT missiles to the tracks, 5 second reload, 2nd AT missile to the tracks = one dead tanker
      simple as

      I think the problem is people play too much Karkand at the hotel where it is easy to be attacked as you spawn - it's only my most played map because finding a server that doesnt play with low ping is difficult for me - wish more servers played Kubra Dam

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      • Orion126

        #33
        Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

        Originally posted by $kelet0r
        what have my stats got to do with anything? they're fairly mediocre :)

        1 AT missiles to the tracks, 5 second reload, 2nd AT missile to the tracks = one dead tanker
        simple as

        I think the problem is people play too much Kakrnad at the hotel where it is easy to be attacked as you spawn - it's only my most played map because finding a server that doesnt play with low ping is difficult for me - wish more servers played Kubra Dam
        stats have everything to do with it...i can't claim to be an expert pilot with my 25 hours...and you can't claim to be able to take a tank with two shots when youve got 30+ kills and 40+ deaths as antitank.


        in regards to the AT missles...in a perfect world you would be able to get to the right or left of a tank and shoot its tracks, prone and reload, and shoot again...but in karkand, they stay behind and they have an engy on the other vehicle or a supply box in between.

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        • whatistocome

          #34
          Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

          Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
          I take issue with the fact that I have to bother predicting artillery at all - not so much with the artillery itself. I don't want my firefight interrupted by some meddling commander.
          (sarcasm) Yeah, because we all know commanders never meddle with the flow of battle in real life. (/sarcasm)

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          • vbl

            #35
            Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

            Originally posted by whatistocome
            (sarcasm) Yeah, because we all know commanders never meddle with the flow of battle in real life. (/sarcasm)
            WTF does real life have to do with how things work in Battlefield 2?

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            • [3SA]D|Sgt.Colinloves
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              • Sep 2005
              • 894

              #36
              Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

              ....Lag Patch 1.21


              I will say no more.

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              • $kelet0r

                #37
                Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                Originally posted by Orion126
                stats have everything to do with it...i can't claim to be an expert pilot with my 25 hours...and you can't claim to be able to take a tank with two shots when youve got 30+ kills and 40+ deaths as antitank.


                in regards to the AT missles...in a perfect world you would be able to get to the right or left of a tank and shoot its tracks, prone and reload, and shoot again...but in karkand, they stay behind and they have an engy on the other vehicle or a supply box in between.
                3rd account buddy
                i rarely play AT unless i find myself in the above situation and i think even 30 kills is enough validation for anyone and besides i log far more hours on my clan server than i do in public ranked play so....
                anyway with 25 hours you have seen enough air combat to shout down planewhore in an argument if your arguments are good enough - 25 hours is not insignificant experience so dont belittle it

                i have played enough clan matches to know for example that just 2 anti tankers can wipe out all the armour on karkand without it even getting a kill
                the problem in public play is that when people complain about AT it is because they might use it but the rest of the team keeps spawning as a sniper - blame your idiot team mates not the tools you are given ingame

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                • bob_the_fish

                  #38
                  Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                  Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                  WTF does real life have to do with Battlefield 2?
                  Nothing at all, except that you need to have some basis for the game. If you want sci-fi play Halo. Now back to the real world.

                  In 1965, the battle of Ia Drang, in the Ah Shu valley of Vietnam, pitted 600 men of the 1st batallion of the 7th Cavalry against +2500 regulars of the North Vietnamese Army (NVA). This was the first significant battle between U.S. and North Vietnam.

                  The battle lasted two full days. The commanding officer of the US forces, Col. Harold Moore, attributed the survival of his men, against overwhelming odds, to two elements of modern warfare: close air support and consistent, accurate artillary support.

                  So, you can b**ch all you want about air and arty, but the truth is, modern warfare wouldn't be what it is today without them. BF2 is not an infantry game, it's not an armoured game, and it's not an air game. It's a game of modern warfare in all of its complexities, subtlties and casualties. Personally I think it's as close to the real thing as you can get, without taking shrapnel.:evil:

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                  • $kelet0r

                    #39
                    Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                    Originally posted by bob_the_fish
                    Nothing at all, except that you need to have some basis for the game. If you want sci-fi play Halo. Now back to the real world.

                    In 1965, the battle of Ia Drang, in the Ah Shu valley of Vietnam, pitted 600 men of the 1st batallion of the 7th Cavalry against +2500 regulars of the North Vietnamese Army (NVA). This was the first significant battle between U.S. and North Vietnam.

                    The battle lasted two full days. The commanding officer of the US forces, Col. Harold Moore, attributed the survival of his men, against overwhelming odds, to two elements of modern warfare: close air support and consistent, accurate artillary support.

                    So, you can b**ch all you want about air and arty, but the truth is, modern warfare wouldn't be what it is today without them. BF2 is not an infantry game, it's not an armoured game, and it's not an air game. It's a game of modern warfare in all of its complexities, subtlties and casualties. Personally I think it's as close to the real thing as you can get, without taking shrapnel.:evil:
                    nicely said

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                    • vbl

                      #40
                      Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                      Originally posted by bob_the_fish
                      Nothing at all, except that you need to have some basis for the game. If you want sci-fi play Halo. Now back to the real world.
                      Who said anything about Sci-Fi?

                      I swear, some of you kids are overdoing the Ritalin. You don't make any sense.

                      Reality may tell us what is in Battlefield 2, but it never tells us how things work.

                      Of course, the Jackhammer (among other things) pretty well ruins even the "what" part.

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                      • Dilla_Incognito

                        #41
                        Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                        Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                        Who said anything about Sci-Fi?

                        I swear, some of you kids are overdoing the Ritalin. You don't make any sense.

                        Reality may tell us what is in Battlefield 2, but it never tells us how things work.

                        Of course, the Jackhammer (among other things) pretty well ruins even the "what" part
                        he was proving a point...dont play a game if you want it to play like something else.
                        and for your comment about the jackhammer...if you're saying its a made up weapon, think again, its REAL.


                        Seriously people, stop whining...SaK is an infantry map...APC's, last time i checked are used to carry and support infantry...same with Tanks (except the carryiing part :p) And urban maps have tons of places to hide from armor..and AT is an unique class....you will usually have a bad K due to your default gun being so inaccurate unless your point blank....AT kills are usually all against Armor or people standing still ad getting AT sniped :p.

                        As for arty...get a better headset, you can hear arty coming from a mile away...besides the fact that you can A.) Hide from it B.) Destroy the arty

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                        • vbl

                          #42
                          Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                          Originally posted by Dilla_Incognito
                          he was proving a point...dont play a game if you want it to play like something else.
                          and for your comment about the jackhammer...if you're saying its a made up weapon, think again, its REAL.
                          I'm quite aware that it's real, but there are only a handful in the world and it has never been mass-produced for use by any armed force. Same with the DAO-12.

                          A few of you are being incredibly simplistic - someone can play a game and desire adjustments to how certain parts of it work while still enjoying the overall "interpretation of reality".

                          I can't speak for the OP, but I am definitely speaking for myself.

                          If your only valid counter-argument is to tell me to play a different game altogether, spare yourself the indignity and don't post at all.

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                          • rombaft

                            #43
                            Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                            @topicstarter, there is only one solution for you
                            - buy BF2:SF

                            maps have way better balance there ,
                            with balance, I mean the balance between infantry and vehicles

                            for example , a mpa has 7 flags , 4 of those flags can't be caped with vehicles, and 2 of those 4 flags can't even be reached or beeing shot by a vehicle , and then you still have 3 flags left where vehicles can battle .

                            also arty won't hit you as often because there are more hiding spots for arty .

                            and best of all, no jets

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                            • vbl

                              #44
                              Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                              Originally posted by rombaft
                              @topicstarter, there is only one solution for you
                              - buy BF2:SF

                              maps have way better balance there ,
                              with balance, I mean the balance between infantry and vehicles

                              for example , a mpa has 7 flags , 4 of those flags can't be caped with vehicles, and 2 of those 4 flags can't even be reached or beeing shot by a vehicle , and then you still have 3 flags left where vehicles can battle .

                              also arty won't hit you as often because there are more hiding spots for arty .

                              and best of all, no jets

                              Has SF dropped in price yet?

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                              • HoshNasi

                                #45
                                Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

                                I'm going to go out on a limb here and make some assumptions. This game was made to model some form of real battle situations. It at least provides more complexity to it. Moreso then Counter strike, and other games.

                                Complaints about Armor is saying one thing to me. People are traveling and playing alone, or in small poorly equiped squads. A squad needs at least three people. Medic, AT and support. You can mod this some, but HELL!!! I mean this would be much less of an issue if people werent just running around lone gunning. I mean I do it too when I can't organize some people, but I don't complain about some things ability to be more efficiant at killing me then I am at killing it. Tanks kill lots of things, mines, C4, AT and planes kills tanks.. Choose one put it in a squad. Do this calculation when you find something is better then your current equipment at killing you. Dieing and reequiping is another way, but that takes time and if there is camping going on, or heavens no ARRTY!!! then you could be in trouble.

                                As for Arrty. WTF!!! Are you kidding! Comms not only depend on the scan and UAV, they depend on YOU! Maybe you should take a squad (well equiped of course) and SCOUT out some arrty targets, all while staying the hell out of the "Please shell the crap out of me" open areas. I would be so completely ****ed if comms were modified in the slightest way. It provides a great sense of realism that I really like about the game.

                                Plus I like to C4 crap....

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