BF2 has become BORING due to...

[vbl]

Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

You could always destroy the enemy assets, or get a teammate to do it for you.

That problem is easily solved by teamwork.

Sorta doesn't help if we have to leave the firefight anyway, does it.

But let's say we do go destroy assets. Then we have to hold the assets or they'll just get repaired in seconds - nevermind that the artillery on Karkand is within inches of the spawn points, making it very hard to keep them destroyed without dying or being banned for spawn camping.

[$kelet0r]

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tanks and apcs are destroying the infmaps

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
how is this a new thing - this hasnt changed since the game launched
and to say destroy means you are another player who gets spawn camped on the one map - karkand
it is next to impossible to spawn camp effectively on Mastuur which is the best so called 'infantry map'
but to my mind there is no such thing as 'infantry maps' just maps with jets and without
all of these things belong in the game - counterstrike has none of them, go play it
that isnt meant as a cheap jibe either - artillery, armour, air combat make this game great
the players who cheapen the game by playing counterstrike on Karkand are a disgrace to the rest who play the game to its full potential

[BurnTheWeed]

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Sorta doesn't help if we have to leave the firefight anyway, does it.

But let's say we do go destroy assets. Then we have to hold the assets or they'll just get repaired in seconds - nevermind that the artillery on Karkand is within inches of the spawn points, making it very hard to keep them destroyed without dying or being banned for spawn camping.

Yeah, no one said it would be easy but it's is can be done, I see it all the time on Karkand. And the more support you have the easier it is. You can also kill the commander, usually the guy sitting still in the back. Or again, get someone else to do it, just takes a little communication.

But in any case the artillery is easy enough to avoid. It's usually dropped in the most logical places and as long as you have a half decent sound card you can hear it coming. When the guns start firing, look at the minimap and see where most of your team is, if they are all around you then it would probably be a good idea to get out of the area until the artillery lands.

I think the arillery is a great addition to the game. It speeds things up as it's a anti-camper deteriant. In DC/42 whole teams would camp flags and snipers would find one spot and stay there the entire round. Now it encourages teams to get flags fast and move on to the next one.

P.S. I remember playing with you a couple weeks ago. Had some fun times. I was a commander on Karkand and dropped and spotted several guys for you while you were in a tank near the back factory.

[{USI}_DirTyDeeDs]

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Battlefield has become boring for you? waaaaa
another complainer thread...what a surprise!

Dont like tanks in Karkand??? It is your choice to play it or not, exercise that right. I recommend you adapt and overcome challenges as they present themselves.

I hear the arty being fired nearly every time, and when I pay attention to where the sound is coming from, I can tell the difference between friendly and enemy arty. That said..it is common sense to observe the HUD and make an educated guess as to what the arty could be targeting.

Its not safe to remain in the same spot for very long in any FPS, and Battlefield is no exception.

I LIKE the Artillery, as I feel it decreases camping and speeds up the game.

[$kelet0r]

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Battlefield has become boring for you? waaaaa
another complainer thread...what a surprise!

Dont like tanks in Karkand??? It is your choice to play it or not, exercise that right. I recommend you adapt and overcome challenges as they present themselves.

I hear the arty being fired nearly every time, and when I pay attention to where the sound is coming from, I can tell the difference between friendly and enemy arty. That said..it is common sense to observe the HUD and make an educated guess as to what the arty could be targeting.

Its not safe to remain in the same spot for very long in any FPS, and Battlefield is no exception.

I LIKE the Artillery, as I feel it decreases camping and speeds up the game.

the perfect argument for artillery
i salute you :rock:

[colony]

Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

constant artillery barrages and too much emphasis on armour - especially on the city maps.

I am finding nearly every game I play now on a city map constantly being dominated by APC's and artillery - don't get me wrong there is a place for both of these on the bigger maps but on the maps more geared towards infantry fighting I personally find they wreck all the enjoyment - especially artillery.

Also can anyone answer me how some players seem to have a one shot one kill ability (and I am not talking about snipers here). I can hit player repeatedly without killing them then they kill me stone dead with one shot - and I am a newbie or anything like that but I do find it to be very inconsistant in its fairness.

ridiculous. I am a flyboy myself, but when I play maps like karkand and mashtuur, no one takes Anti Armor kits thats why they "dominate" the maps. Its not the map fault, its the players on that server fault cuz everyone wants to be a sniper/support

[vbl]

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Yeah, no one said it would be easy but it's is can be done, I see it all the time on Karkand. And the more support you have the easier it is. You can also kill the commander, usually the guy sitting still in the back. Or again, get someone else to do it, just takes a little communication.

But in any case the artillery is easy enough to avoid. It's usually dropped in the most logical places and as long as you have a half decent sound card you can hear it coming. When the guns start firing, look at the minimap and see where most of your team is, if they are all around you then it would probably be a good idea to get out of the area until the artillery lands.

I think the arillery is a great addition to the game. It speeds things up as it's a anti-camper deteriant. In DC/42 whole teams would camp flags and snipers would find one spot and stay there the entire round. Now it encourages teams to get flags fast and move on to the next one.

P.S. I remember playing with you a couple weeks ago. Had some fun times. I was a commander on Karkand and dropped and spotted several guys for you while you were in a tank near the back factory.

I must've been drunk - I hate driving tanks.

Actually the tank was probably just sitting there and I got paranoid when I saw an empty tank with enemies running around.

Commanders who manually spot relevant targets are a million times more useful than a commander who just runs a UAV non-stop, so nice work.

Back to artillery...

Yes, I can avoid it. I'm the appointed "tell the rest of my squad when arty is coming" guy, but I hate having to d1ck with evacuating my position once I get defenses set up.

And actually, I'd contend that the Sat Scan and UAV are friendlier ways to "speed up" the game without ruining the fun for the other 94% of the players on the server who are enjoying themselves shooting each other.

Commanders don't realize this, but the rest of us don't want them to use artillery - and that applies to the enemy commander AND the friendly commander. Nevermind that you're reducing your own score potential by taking points away from your own team.

[Hidus]

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Commanders don't realize this, but the rest of us don't want them to use artillery - and that applies to the enemy commander AND the friendly commander. Nevermind that you're reducing your own score potential by taking points away from your own team.

I have to admit there have been many many times where I've wondered what team the "friendly" commander is actually playing for. The timing on a lot of the "friendly" arty strikes is so horrendously bad that they end up killing 2x more friendlies than enemies.

[AK47-Warlord]

Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

constant artillery barrages and too much emphasis on armour - especially on the city maps.

I am finding nearly every game I play now on a city map constantly being dominated by APC's and artillery - don't get me wrong there is a place for both of these on the bigger maps but on the maps more geared towards infantry fighting I personally find they wreck all the enjoyment - especially artillery.

Also can anyone answer me how some players seem to have a one shot one kill ability (and I am not talking about snipers here). I can hit player repeatedly without killing them then they kill me stone dead with one shot - and I am a newbie or anything like that but I do find it to be very inconsistant in its fairness.

Go buy Special Forces, problem solved, its miles and miles better then BF2 regular.

[Revoluti0n]

Re: BF2 has become BORING due to...

constant artillery barrages and too much emphasis on armour - especially on the city maps.

I am finding nearly every game I play now on a city map constantly being dominated by APC's and artillery - don't get me wrong there is a place for both of these on the bigger maps but on the maps more geared towards infantry fighting I personally find they wreck all the enjoyment - especially artillery.

Also can anyone answer me how some players seem to have a one shot one kill ability (and I am not talking about snipers here). I can hit player repeatedly without killing them then they kill me stone dead with one shot - and I am a newbie or anything like that but I do find it to be very inconsistant in its fairness.

Maybe you are just not an effective player. Everything you mention is part of the game and has a very clear purpose. If you are not able to destroy tanks and APC's, or run before the arty hit you, then you just need to play on easier servers.
About the one shot kills. If you are hit with a shotgun point blank, guess what skippy? If you get a 5.56mm bullet between the eyes, dead. You get the picture. Dont sit here and say, "Ohh my, the game is sooo boring now because I am ineffective at best." On the contrary, if anything has made the game boring it's because of the lack of vanilla maps. I look around at the server list, I only see a handful out of the 2,500 that are running EF.

[Scotty]

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Artillery isn't so bad. Just last night I was playing on Karkand and at least a half dozen times we were capping a flag and as soon as it went neutral you would hear arty fire. You know it's going to land on your head soon.

Hang in there as long as you can to get the flag cap and then run like hell. I made it out every time while the rest of the guys stood around celebrating their flag cap.

If you use your head, the chance of getting hit with arty is slim. There are the odd times where you are wandering along in the middle of nowhere and get hit, but that is the mark of a good commander paying attention to where the enemy is moving.

[Rez_K'awil]

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This thread has been swarmed by the cynical and bitter way too fast - bashing someone who just started the game and is looking for some help just wastes space on the forum.

Midknight, the fact is artillery is a part of the game (has been since the start), and then only way to beat it is not to be there when it hits. Learn to listen for it and predict where it's going. And as for "insta-kills," when I started out I felt the same way, but now that I know the G36E, F2000, etc., and how to aim them properly, I can see why I was killed so quickly early on - in the hands of a skilled player they will take you out very quickly in what seems like 1 shot, even though it's probably more like 3 or 4. Hang in there.

[$hArp$h0t]

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Yeah it sounds like you're just not an effective player, the arty is there to keep the gameplay balanced and to add more deph into the gameplay. Don't bunch up with your teammates, displace every 20 seconds are so from your current position (even snipers and vehicles), and simply listen for the arty and watch the hud to make sure your arty isn't near by. And like what $kelet0r said, there are no infantry maps...people refer them as infantry map because of the close quarters combat like in Karkand. It's an effective tactic to use armor in urban areas but at the same time very dangerous due to the fact enemies can be hiding anywhere which is why you see them on Karkand. But DICE did a good job keeping the armor in Karkand balanced, there are barriers all over the place, alleys so tanks can't get troops, places to hide so a AT can pop out of anywhere to strike...etc,etc,etc.

[imported_Riggzy]

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A few red flags to watch for concerning artillery:
- Large groups of team members;
- Enemy squads and vehicles suddenly retreating / keeping their distance;
- UAV's (you can see them in the new patch, so make use of it!);
- Scouts (snipers or not) appearing around a base - they're probably spotting enemy activity to signal the commander to strike.

Just my two cents!

Oh, and also - if it starts raining shells, don't try to run around in circles or out of the base! Go find shelter or an armoured vehicle. Try to keep the medics alive.

[Orion126]

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$kele0r:

http://bf2s.com/player/$kelet0r/

Teach us how to kill an armor with two shots in 5 seconds please...because according to your stats, it hasn't happened buddy....

It's not easy to get away from a tank, especially when it's spawn camping...try coming at it with c4 or engineer, believe me its not that easy and you will more than likely get killed a few times before achieving a kill...

As for BF2 being boring? I don't agree. Play other maps, try different strategies and use other kits...it does get monotonous, but only for a bit.