Found out why Essex is unbalanced

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  • Jones[31stMEU]

    #16
    Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

    why is it so wrong to keep enemy aircraft grounded so they don't bomb the hell out of your grunts?

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    • Leeus

      #17
      Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

      Originally posted by Jones[31stMEU]
      AA is a joke. I avoid it all day. My secret though. Only worthy foe is a good enemy pilot.
      True that...

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      • Chowley

        #18
        Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

        Originally posted by pYura
        the essex is supposed to be superstrong and dangerous to protect the carrier...
        Only one prblem: in Iron Gator the essex can shoot down the MEC heli almost from the helipad and it cant realy shoot back with a TV missle...
        Drop flares the fly out of range of it, fly around the left border of the map and the essex will never touch you on iron gator.

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        • iflabs

          #19
          Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

          If anything, it's a good thing.

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          • ThoughtForm

            #20
            Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

            Originally posted by Banthur

            Also, Essex machine gun rounds have a MAX range; ie if you're a certain distance away they can't hit you at all.
            I have to disagree. I've manned the Essex gun (middle one) on lots of occasions and when playing wake island our commander UAV'd the chinese flag on left side of the island closest to the Carrier which showed lots of infantry.

            I sprayed randomly in their direction (aiming quite high because of the drop / ballistics) and managed to hit and kill a enemy infantry!

            On another occasion I was manning the middle Essex gun on Dalian Plant and someone on our team had just captured the left most chinese flag at the shore.

            They called out a enemy helicopter attacking their position and I could just make out the dim outline of the heli (due to the fog) and fired a few rounds in their direction not expecting it to do much, maybe scare them away at the most.. but I got 2 kills (heli shot down)!

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            • Mekstizzle

              #21
              Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

              Tbh the Essex needs to have some sort of super crazy AA with Tow's and Mounted MG's all over it. Same with any other Uncapable base. Your not supposed to attack it. They should make all Uncapable bases Impregnable fortresses...
              My opinion.

              All it would do is make the enemy have to Defend their own flags rather than go and attack the uncapable for whatever reason...(usually easy kills)

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              • ThoughtForm

                #22
                Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                If the base is not supposed to be attacked, then why do they have defense systems in place there?

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                • Mekstizzle

                  #23
                  Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                  Originally posted by ThoughtForm
                  If the base is not supposed to be attacked, then why do they have defense systems in place there?
                  Becuase it's pretty obvious people like doing what there not really supposed to do, this goes 5000 times more in video games. So countermeasures are needed.

                  Simple really...

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                  • Bucknasty

                    #24
                    Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                    uhh...base get attacked to reduce enemy capabilities.....

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                    • Roger Smith
                      Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1390

                      #25
                      Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                      1) Wrong.
                      ya wtf is this guy smoking, j10 can see essex well before missile range

                      3) It could fire 8 missiles or 80, if you use flares it won't be a problem especially if you approach from a direction it doesn't expect.
                      um, the j10 doesnt need flares as it can dodge without them, god i hope this gets fixed.

                      bottom line is essex is fine, j10/f18 turn rate is fine, and jsf is fine. the problem is with the aa, and adjusting its turn rate values wont fix this. the problem is that aa missiles will fly right up to a j10/f18 and then just fly away. also aa missiles shouldnt teamkill.

                      Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                      I wish they'd just add a mobile AA unit to Oman so people would stop posting about the Essex.
                      of the capturable bases 6 out of 7 have aa, if people do thier job, thats more than enough.

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                      • Alcorr

                        #26
                        Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                        I posted on this a few days ago.

                        Its just not balanced with the shore AA....the LONE STINGER defeding the airfield....

                        If they gave chinese/mec TWO stingers to defend the AIRFIELD then it would be balanced.

                        3) It could fire 8 missiles or 80, if you use flares it won't be a problem especially if you approach from a direction it doesn't expect.
                        See thats just not true tho.

                        Heres why the essex is unfair due to its insta repair ability (you can't pull stingers out of midair):

                        I come into range firing the cannon.
                        He locks, I hit the flares, he fires missiles, he dies. I fly past the gun

                        THEN (another) engineer instantly repairs the gun to minimum health, hops in, turns around and fires 8 missiles at me...I die...remember...im out of flares!

                        How does that make sense?

                        If the stinger was insta repairible I wouldn't mind but since its not the least they could do is give two to defend the main airfield.

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                        • ToneDog

                          #27
                          Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                          theres 2 phalanx on the amphibious assault ship, but only one AA actually within the area of the airfield

                          however i'm not complaining, the system is fine

                          good AA users can kill jets, good pilots can take out AA
                          i don't see why the game should be made totally oriented toward casual players

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                          • vbl

                            #28
                            Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                            Originally posted by roger smith
                            [B]of the capturable bases 6 out of 7 have aa, if people do thier job, thats more than enough.
                            Except that he's complaining about the AA strength at the main MEC base.

                            And personally I'd take 1 mobile AA vehicle over 6 static AA any time because static AA is laaaame.

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                            • Maxor127
                              Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 314

                              #29
                              Re: Found out why Essex is unbalanced

                              Even I can blow up the Essex with plane guns. It's pretty worthless, although the 8 missiles are nice, it usually means death fighting against someone with any skill. It's dumb that it can blow up like that but oh well.

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                              • Thirdeyez

                                #30
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                                If you are raping the carrier and the AA is a problem...then your skills to rape the carrier arent good enough to be raping the carrier..

                                Essex is easy to take out..Fly high..coem at the side its mounted on or behind it, unleash cannon, swing around and rape deck..
                                9-10 times this works cause 90% of the people in the AA just pan the area facing the flags/enemy air field..they dont watch there back.

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