To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

[USI_Krusher]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

Who cares if they put 100 claymores around a flag? Adapt. Improvise. Overcome. Get in a squad with at least 1 medic, send one man in to detonate claymores, then revive him. Claymores gone. Flag is now yours. Move to next flag, wash, rinse, repeat.

For every way the enemy can think of to kill me, I have to think of a way to get around it.

[$kelet0r]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

OK, most of you guys who replied here are just a bunch of loosers, who are afraid they would loose there precious weapon where you can kill without no skill at all , and they should start using bullets to kill someone , but this is offcourse something where you need to aim and some prective, OMG, mommy, please help me, I can't kill anyone anymore on a coward way

oh the hypocrisy tastes sweet :laugh:
seriously dude we are entitled to our (frankly more mature and sensible) opinions and no one flamed you for yours but with an attitude like that you've just killed any sympathy you might have generated in this topic
sorry to be blunt but its difficult to tolerate someone who has no respect for forum etiquette

[rombaft]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

it is also not the claymore spamming alone, it's the nade spamming also, someties there is no shooting at all anymore, just nadetrowing at eachother, all are just to much crybabies and stay back trowing nades

[Koopa1]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

Nades are fine as they are.

Ever seen a REAL fragmentation grenade explode?

[_DOA_C-SQUARED]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

Cliffs:
1) Claymores should be set off by teammates. The problem with spamming claymores will be solved. If you feel the need to change the way tks are handled fine.

2)Standard grenades are fine. I have not had an issue with grenade spammers. Play a more open map or stay away from groups of people.

3)AT rockets are fine. Use your head know your escape route before you fire. Fire then take cover until you reload.

4)Fix Grenade Launcher. The min arm time is broken as is the bouncing off materials.

5)Tweak the damage on the pkm so people can't take out snipers/ whole squads by themselves.


The problem with the claymore is some genius decided to make it not go off on teammates. [sarcasm] Sounds like a great idea. Right along with when mines could be destroyed my explosives. [/sarcasm] The mines were useless. All tanks/APCs had to do was shoot the mines and the whole line would explode. Now people are spamming claymores because teammates cannot be killed by it. :laugh:

Whomever has these ideas needs to think: How can I exploit this. Hopefully they can come up with a few ways to exploit their new feature. Then discover either how to fix it or just take that idea off the table. How could you not see this was going to happen!?

Grenade spamming is most common on karkand. The only reason is the concentration of players in a confined space. Nothing should be done about it. Someone mentioned something about blind throws. Isn't that what a grenade is for? Clearing a room or an area that you can't see. Perhpas playing a different map where people are not so close together could help your nerves.

The anti tank rockets are fine. Aim for the front/rear of the treads and know your escape route if you miss. Use your head don't stand out in the open and fire your rocket. Fire then take cover until you reload. If he chases after you then its his loss because he is going to die 75% of the time.

The grenade launcher is messed up. I tried using it yesterday. Fired it at a humvee. Damn shell bounced right off. If I fire it at my feet it goes off instantly. I thought there was going to be a minimum arming time? Guess not.

The damn pkm can take out snipers now. Fantastic. Perhaps when you tweaked the accuracy you could have adjusted the bullets damage a bit so that it takes a few more bullets to kill. Especially when you figure that most targets are going to be injured in some fashion. You can fire the stupid thing while standing now as well. I understand it needs to be an accurate weapon but stop taking things to the extreme. I saw a guy jump into the middle of 4 guys and take them all out. Yeah he was hurt but the squad was dead. You can keep the accuracy but just reduce the damage the bullets do by a fraction. Fire from a set position and take a out a squad is fine. Running out in the open and killing an entire squad while they all shoot at you is not right.

[Scotty]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

Nades don't need any work. People throw them because that is what they are for.

AT is fine except for the glitch that allows it to shoot through things.

Claymores need to be destructible by nades, c4, etc. As for claymore usage....

The M18A1 Claymore Antipersonnel Mine is a weapon often used by many countries around the world, named after the large Scottish sword, by the inventor, Norman A. MacLeod. The Claymore is designed to fire steel balls (shrapnel) out to about 100 meters across a 60° arc in front of the device, which stands just off the ground. It is designed primarily to be used in ambushes and as an anti-infiltration device against enemy infantry, however it is also of some use against soft-skinned vehicles.

So you can see that claymores are not just for protection. Claymores are used to keep people out of a given area. That could mean keeping them off the snipers butt OR keeping them away from a flag or strategic position.

The PKM needs to have it's accuracy corrected a little. Not much though. Those guns are made to mow down infantry and at the ranges we are typically attacking each other from, they SHOULD mow down everyone. The problem is the going prone and instantly firing accurately. They should need a second or so to "set up". This would mean people would have to stake out a spot and wait for the enemy to come to them and stop using the gun like an assault weapon.

The grenade launcher needs to have its splash damage back to where it was pre patch. This weapon should be used for harrasing fire at range. The splash radius needs to be higher. The damage doesn't need to kill people, but it needs to get their attention.

Most things are just fine right now. A few minor tweaks are all that is needed. If you take out all the explosives from the game or nerf them all to hell, we might as well take the guns away too. Take the knives as well and we'll all just bunny hop around and punch each other. Explosives are part of the game. Just like high powered guns with insane accuracy.

[royaljewellz]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

OK, most of you guys who replied here are just a bunch of loosers, who are afraid they would loose there precious weapon where you can kill without no skill at all , and they should start using bullets to kill someone , but this is offcourse something where you need to aim and some prective, OMG, mommy, please help me, I can't kill anyone anymore on a coward way

that's really funny that you attack people about using bullets to kill people, yet of of your 47268 kills, only 11625 are with bullets. the other 35643 are with exposives, vehicles, and other means besides bullets. so how does what your talking about not apply to you. you obviously enjoy the benefits of using other weapons besides bullets, and your total kills speaks for itself.

granted, you're obviously skilled, and i'm not trying to start anything. my point is this game is about the other weapons besides bullets. we could be running and gunning in cod2, but we have much more then guns and pistols to use.

[rombaft]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

that's really funny that you attack people about using bullets to kill people, yet of of your 47268 kills, only 11625 are with bullets. the other 35643 are with exposives, vehicles, and other means besides bullets. so how does what your talking about not apply to you. you obviously enjoy the benefits of using other weapons besides bullets, and your total kills speaks for itself.

granted, you're obviously skilled, and i'm not trying to start anything. my point is this game is about the other weapons besides bullets. we could be running and gunning in cod2, but we have much more then guns and pistols to use.

offcourse I use those tools , I am not an idiot, when everybody is nadespamming, I ain't going to run forwards to the enemy with my rifle out, the few times I do this I mostly end up teamkilled , my points is also the give the infantry a good chance against armor, don't get me wrong, it is battlefield, and there are vehicles and those make it great, but there has to be balance, and the infantry shouldn't be just nade spamming, tricking each other in claymores, blowing yourself up to kill someone else ....

[HicRic]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

Speaking of unskilled players in BF2, it is only two AT rockets to kill a tank. The gameplay doesn't need changing, you just need hit it twice in the treads or the back to kill it.

You've got expert anti-tank and you didn't know this, or you aren't capable of this? rombaft, you're just embarrassing yourself.

[spartan915]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

[quote=rombaft]
Sometimes I ask myself, WTF DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE AGAINST SHOOTING BULLETS ?????????????????????????????
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I ask myself this question all the time. People from a few feet away that shoot the GL or the AT missle to kill you. What happen to shooting people or the good ol knife?

[sidtherat]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

it is also not the claymore spamming alone, it's the nade spamming also, someties there is no shooting at all anymore, just nadetrowing at eachother, all are just to much crybabies and stay back trowing nades

first - i have yet to die form a claymore on karkand! many of you exagerate the problem much to much. i saw maybe 5 people dropping claymores in the palace on warlord - not a big problem, there are other flags to fight for

i tried this 'trick' myself' and found it highly innefective in normal situation, it might be good only in some special circumstances - ie support and sniper playing alone, and that does not happen in pubs often

mining some obvoius points [bridge on mass destruction, boat station, beach at the small island, or the crane in specnaz main] is a legitimate tactic, that i feel you'd call cheap, because you simply steps into that mine from time to time

if you encounter it frequently, maybe it is time to change servers, because, the ones you are playing at simply attract point whores

as we are about the whores - tell me, and everybody else - how you did manage to accumulate 600 repair points in 3 days? how many hours of siting in drowning hummer it took? because i know perfectly well, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get so many points by normal gameplay - no BS about driving in a group of armoured vechicles on fushe pass or dragon this gets you max 10 points and usualy 3-4 per round
do you enjoy your medal?

as for the tank and AT rockets - yes, two shots, but usualy first one takes the crate, next two kills the tank - if it is possible to hit the tank, and use the splash to destroy the crate, then it is worth trying, but risk is, crate is not going to blow, so.. choice is hard
what i dont like about AT and tanks is, that attacking htem from the top is not effective at all [3-4 shots], and firing from the crane/building/hill is the only way of attacking a tank from relative safety

[rombaft]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

as we are about the whores - tell me, and everybody else - how you did manage to accumulate 600 repair points in 3 days? how many hours of siting in drowning hummer it took? because i know perfectly well, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get so many points by normal gameplay - no BS about driving in a group of armoured vechicles on fushe pass or dragon this gets you max 10 points and usualy 3-4 per round
do you enjoy your medal?

My friend, before acusing people, maybe first ask ,
In many threads I explained how to get your repair points fast and effective, even 25-30 a round without any problem, other people have done it to and it works, it's no padding/exploiting at all , just use the search pal .


also, you have nor un into a single claymore on karkand ? strange, or maybe not strange, offcourse you can't run into a claymore if you are in the tank or something the whole time

[sidtherat]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

i know how - it takes one engineer, one body of water and one hummer/mobile aa

skill not required, been there, done that

[rombaft]

Re: To SAVE the gameplay of BF2 these changes should happen.

i know how - it takes one engineer, one body of water and one hummer/mobile aa

skill not required, been there, done that

well, that is exploiting/padding , you have done it, I don't , I said, look up in search how I get my repair points fast without exploiting, just whoring