Battlefield Karkand Experts.

[Revolver_rulez]

Re: Battlefield Karkand Experts.

I wish there would be more city maps but with no veicles at all. I love to play on karkad but there is always an apc and armor whore around the corner.. now, if there were some infantry only maps on ranked server i would play them almost those...just bc i have played too much of the other maps and it gets pretty boring after times.at least for me, but of course ppl who like to fly or the feel of being inside a hotblazing tank dont agree and i respect that...maybe because i came from cs as something to do with that. Now for Special forces could be so more fun for me if there wasnt any veicles (except those 4 weel bikes i love them, in part because they are perfect for jihad attacks on those aa hores tham insted of taking down the chopper they cam on respawning points...) i was pretty disponted with that espansion as it seam to be a lot more about infantry but in most maps that is just a big fat ....dam im so ****ed at EA. oh well. sorry guys...

[ACE4U]

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If youlook at my stats, it will say the majority of time I have played on Karkand. That is not by choice. Karkand is the most played map. I never pick to play there it just came out that way.

The same here. I have not been support that much. I choose it a couple of times in the begining and was killed quickly like when I was assault on Karkand. I revisted support on Karkand and found a nice way of playing on the map.
Also, in the begining I like using the machine gun by one of the spawn points. You would not belive the dummys that try to rush that point and try to aim and kill me while I am unloading on them. :laugh:

[Leki]

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@Phenomenomenon

well check my stats and you will see i play all maps and i think the PKM is over powered and i now use it. As satanbzb said obviously the PKM isn't going to be great on maps where most people are in tanks and so wont be used as much but infrantry maps like karkand and most SF maps its overpowered in infantry combat.

[imported_Phenomenomenon]

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I wish there would be more city maps but with no veicles at all. I love to play on karkad but there is always an apc and armor whore around the corner.. now, if there were some infantry only maps on ranked server i would play them almost those...just bc i have played too much of the other maps and it gets pretty boring after times.at least for me, but of course ppl who like to fly or the feel of being inside a hotblazing tank dont agree and i respect that...maybe because i came from cs as something to do with that. Now for Special forces could be so more fun for me if there wasnt any veicles (except those 4 weel bikes i love them, in part because they are perfect for jihad attacks on those aa hores tham insted of taking down the chopper they cam on respawning points...) i was pretty disponted with that espansion as it seam to be a lot more about infantry but in most maps that is just a big fat ....dam im so ****ed at EA. oh well. sorry guys...

It's fine to enjoy infantry combat. But by playing battlefied 2 you should be multifaceted. To adapt to any situation with the appropriate kit and vehicle.

A lot of it makes more sense when you actually have proper team play. Then a lot of kits and vehicals can be very enjoyable.

I'm from a BF42 then BFV background. I want people to engage in more team play on pub servers. I don't think peoples inclination to go lone wolf with the same kit on the same map is helping them be a better player.

My fav maps. Mashtaur, Sharqi, Dalian, Kubra, and I can with the right group enjoy Karkand.

I enjoyed Special Forces for the focus on infantry too. For some reason I've found myself not playing it hardly at all.

[Noiddog]

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Look, I'm not going to lie. I don't have enough time in the day to log hours upon hours of gametime. I love playing BF2, problems and all, and in order to feel like i'm making any progress in it at all, I choose to play karkand almost to the point of frustration. I do this becuase I'm a mediocre player at best, and if I dont' do some sort of high action, crazy as hell, put everyone in a bottle and shake map, i'll never get enough points to move up to master sergeant. Hell, as it is, some stat server told me that at my historical rate, it'll only take 180 days to make master sergeant. Yay!!!!! I like playing other maps with friends, but when it comes down to it, I just have to do what i can to help me advance. I'm sorry if that makes me a Karkand whore or a noob or whatever is the "in slang" term these days, but some of us who work long hours can't be picky when we do get a chance.

[parish]

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I made some comments in another thread some time ago about Karkand being a map that nurtured point whores. I honestly don't think there is anything special about that map and could care less how often I play it. My favorite map is Kubra Dam, but I don't hunt for servers running it, I just play whatever map is running when I connect.

I agree 100% with the OP on his play the whole game and all the maps before you pass judgement on kit performance. I have said it before, it's "Battlefield 2" not "Battlefield Karkand".

[imported_SpungE]

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I've been reading in threads and found an interesting trend.

Most everyone I found who thought the Support guns or especially the Pkm were overpowered, played almost exclusively on Karkand.

Here they are playing on a flat map known for infantry bottlenecks.... Of course the support guns will rock in that situation!

Most of the patch complaints come from trends and behaviors on Karkand. You shouldn't be asking for sweeping game changes based upon your narrow experience of one map.

Now until you play Battlefield 2 (and it's sundry maps) and not Battlefield Karkand. You are not qualified to discuss kit balance.

What you'll find if you play the game (i.e. other maps), is that a lot of kits come into play and the balance is fine.

Yeah but that still dosen't give you the right to have a sig that makes jesus cry.

[« R²» HKS]

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The trouble I see is that all the patch decisions have been based around the people who play Karkand and the reason they play Karkand only. There is no air vehicles in Karkand and these people play Karkand for higher points and so they don't get owned by air vehicles and they haven't taken the time to learn how to fly.

That's the way I see it. Whilst the PKM doesn't have the same impact on maps like Kubra, Songhua Stalemate, Dragon Valley, Oman ect its still just as accurate and powerful no matter what map you play.

Why should people who only play Karkand have a say on what air vehicles should be like. What do you care?

[Sir. bzb]

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It is amazing that aa can be bought into a discussion about the pkm, not saying anyones bitter but you've had a thread for aa so now focus on the pkm- a weapon useless to you in the air.
Karkand- it is a good choice as gun now, when people get bored of the claymores it will be a support only map. You can out-snipe snipers with ease, even playing Rambo on Sharqi tonight scored me fifty points with few bags dropped.

[sumguyhavinfun]

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I pretty much play Karkand only, the PKM is fine, I dont use it, I prefer the MG36, they only need to fix the AT rocket shoot through bug and a little beef and legs on the P90 wouldnt go astray.

[[MyIS]Spetsnaz]

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I only play on 16 player maps. Can't stand anything more than 24 players.

Smaller servers have a tendency to get personal, which is fun (snper battles, hunting each other, etc).

I play on Karkand almost exclusively because I get the most out of that map. It's fast paced and I love infantry based maps with a touch of armor. On smaller servers you can sneak around and still get the job done without half the time going out.

I have no problems with the PKM, no problems with tanks, apcs humvees, etc. I like the game exactly the way it is now (albeit the claymores, that's just stupid).

Anyone coming from BF1942 will know that vehicle based combat is completely different than it was before (for the worse, in my opinion). There are too many twists and turns ... everything is all jammed up and too tight. Can't fully explain it I guess.

However, I will say that El Alamein and 73 Eastings (DC) were amazing land/sea/air battles all around

[ActiveMatx]

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I hate claymores, more than I hate the PKM.

In Karkland, you will have snipers spamming those things all over the alleys and streets. Everywhere u step, Boom, claymore.

[sarb]

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karkand is like the de_dust of bf2....its hard to avoid playing on it.

[00SoldierofFortune00]

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karkand is like the de_dust of bf2....its hard to avoid playing on it.

True dat.

One thing I don't get in the game is why people seem to like Fushee Pass more than Songhua Stalemate. Stalemate is one fo my favorite maps, and everytime I search for it, it is hardly up. I can understand if people like their jets and all, but this is really the only map that has some decent jungle conflicts and hiding which is why I like it. That is the one thing that this game has always been missing. Jungle maps. I really liked the TotalBf2 map pack with the one level with the dense jungle resembling Vietnam in a way. IMO, there should of been more Chinese levels like that since that would of been where the fighting really would of been in a conflict between the two. You can tell they were catering to BF2:Karkand people with SF, even though every map in that game is 10x better laid out then Karkand. SF has some really good maps, but still we never got a jungle map for BF2 which really disapoints me since I came from BF:V and wanted to see some of that with better graphics and all.

With all teh good graphics and uniforms, you think we would actually get to test them in some good jungle environments but no.

And Phenomenomenon, please change your damn sig, it is making us all cry.
God help us.

[6casper6]

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i totally agree..i think players who have skills with alittle bit of everything..rather then just karkand..or certain weapons should have first say in patches etc..