Warlord is pointless now.....

[eeeahn]

Once my favorite map, Warlord is now dead to me.
I was just playing the 64player version on speedygameservers and I'm pretty sure half the team were snipers and the othe rhalf support.

It's now all but impossible to take the tv station, insurgent hideout, and palace. There's more claymores than ever before....sometimes 2 or 3 in one spot!

What are your guys' thoughts?


Here's a screenshot showing just a small fraction of the claymores in the tv station lobby! 0_o

[rombaft]

Re: Warlord is pointless now.....

IN my opinion they should never have done this, claymores should still be able to tk, it's just plane stupid and asking for beeing abused

[<DV8>mrbucket]

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I agree, it is one of those things where if there is a cutoff point for infantry(1 entry) you can abuse it badly.

[7zerO3]

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EA said that they listened to what we, the players wanted.
What we wanted was not to lose points and be punished for team mates stupity.
How could they not see this happening ?
And it's not just Warlord that's ruined, they can be used on any map at any flag, making it impossible for a lone player to cap, unless he's in a Tank/APC.

[]UK-C[ Mindzai]

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EA said that they listened to what we, the players wanted.
What we wanted was not to lose points and be punished for team mates stupity.
How could they not see this happening ?
And it's not just Warlord that's ruined, they can be used on any map at any flag, making it impossible for a lone player to cap, unless he's in a Tank/APC.

Precisely. It seems everything that's been done in this patch has just been done to extremes. I really likes it at first but I have to say i'm growing less fond by the day. All it would have taken would be the removal of deducting 4 points and the option to punish for Claymore & Mine TKs.

[[FPS]SF.Paddy]

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Maybe it's time all you lone wolves work together in a squad. Couple medics could easily revive teamates when they are killed by claymores. Plus they get points for it and your fallen comrade does not get a death racked up on his stats.

Plus lets face it. If EA fixed the claymore problem one of you lot would moan about naders........' Warlord is pointless everytime i go in palace or tv station i get naded. Everyone is running around nading...blah blah blah.....' OR ' Warlord is pointless everytime i go in take take a flag there is C4 everywhere......blah blah blah......' OR ' Warlord is pointless evrytime i go to take a flag somone shoots me totally ruins the map when someone kills me all the time, EA have ruined it......' The list is endless.

[7zerO3]

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Yesterday I got a flag when we had none on Sharqi and all my squad were dead and almost all of my team, if I had'nt got the flag it would have been game over.
Your squad cant help you when they're dead.
And when I play solo I spend alot of time capping out of the way, unprotected flags. Squads are more likely to stay where the action is, making the lone player at times a valuable asset to any team.
It's about the fact that Claymores require no enemy presence or skill to defend a flag.

[Sir. Shpox]

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Precisely. It seems everything that's been done in this patch has just been done to extremes. I really likes it at first but I have to say i'm growing less fond by the day. All it would have taken would be the removal of deducting 4 points and the option to punish for Claymore & Mine TKs.

Correct, Eg. Reducing the effectiveness of choppers has gone to an extreme. There was no happy medium for Dice and this was their Crucial mistake into making 1.2 an unsucessful patch. Not to mention the bug with some kits and no printscreen funcitonality.

[[FPS]SF.Paddy]

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7zerO3 checked your stats, you are the biggest lone wolf in the world! Why don't you carry on playing exactly as you do, but be a squad leader. Then people can spawn on you. Very annoying when a lone wolf is in a good spot on a map and you are unable to spawn on them.

[imported_Apostle]

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I thought this was true when I was playing Sharqi Peninsula the other day.

Did DICE ever say they were changing the Claymores so they wouldn't explode when a friendly runs over them? I've been avidly keeping track of the patch development and can't remember this ever being mentioned, except for the server setting to allow FF off for mines. Are they considered the one and the same, mines and Claymores?

[7zerO3]

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SF.Paddy. The reason my Lone Wolf time is 180+ is because most of the time I simply dont remember to join a squad, another thing Dice/EA should change is the option to automatically Join/Create a Squad when you start.
And as I do like to get the out of the way flags, being with a squad can bring too much unwated attention.
A chopper wont cross the map for 1 player when they can spam squads and a Commander wont waste artillary for 1 person, or at least 1 that knows what he/she's doing. I cant count the number of times I've been hit by artillary when I've been nowhere near a flag or any team mates. But then, I can't count.

[]UK-C[ Mindzai]

Re: Warlord is pointless now.....

I thought this was true when I was playing Sharqi Peninsula the other day.

Did DICE ever say they were changing the Claymores so they wouldn't explode when a friendly runs over them? I've been avidly keeping track of the patch development and can't remember this ever being mentioned, except for the server setting to allow FF off for mines. Are they considered the one and the same, mines and Claymores?

I only found oout by accident too, never saw it documented. The thing is, lots of people probably still don't know, the worst is yet to come...

[ledbythereaper]

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ya know what, chuck a grenade in and the claymores go boom....

[eeeahn]

Re: Warlord is pointless now.....

Maybe it's time all you lone wolves work together in a squad. Couple medics could easily revive teamates when they are killed by claymores. Plus they get points for it and your fallen comrade does not get a death racked up on his stats.

Plus lets face it. If EA fixed the claymore problem one of you lot would moan about naders........' Warlord is pointless everytime i go in palace or tv station i get naded. Everyone is running around nading...blah blah blah.....' OR ' Warlord is pointless everytime i go in take take a flag there is C4 everywhere......blah blah blah......' OR ' Warlord is pointless evrytime i go to take a flag somone shoots me totally ruins the map when someone kills me all the time, EA have ruined it......' The list is endless.

All I am saying is I don't see how DICE didn't forsee the abuse of claymores. I think this will become a bigger problem than noobtubing or the TK issue.
All they had to do was remove the punish option for claymore TK's. The person that walked into the claymore with the big red skull on the screen deserves a death anyways!

[eeeahn]

Re: Warlord is pointless now.....

ya know what, chuck a grenade in and the claymores go boom....

Actually no they don't.
Thats the "magic" of the new patch.
I tried to blow claymores with a 'nade. doesn't work.
If you could blow them, I wouldnt care at all....
That would be a great counter-tactic to this new problem, and I could live with that.
The problem is that the only way to get rid of the claymore now is by someone walking in front of it.
Now do you wanna run point for me from now on?
didn't think so.