ATTN: Chopper fans

[[FM]Master_Chief]

Re: ATTN: Chopper fans

Last night me and my pilot had one of the best rounds ever without getting shot down. Now because of the patch, AA is getting bombed 24/7. Last night, after bombing the crap out of the AA site's, nobody bothered trying to shoot us down anymore. I guess it wasn't worth it to them to die so much, just to try and take us down. It was soo much fun. I think I must have bombed the same 2 guys like 10 times each before they all gave up, LMAO!


[RNS] Air Support Squad

I'm not much of a pilot but a good gunner. Obviously now your most important target before moving into an area is the AA gun. Swoop in take it out and you can rape for a while until it spawns again. Just keep an eye on it and destroy it again when it appears. Rinse and repeat. It's the noob pilots that fly into an area and start rocket pounding infantry while having its tail to the AA gun that have problems. If you're one of those folks DONT FLY A CHOPPER!!!!!

[Orphious2006]

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I'm not much of a pilot but a good gunner. Obviously now your most important target before moving into an area is the AA gun. Swoop in take it out and you can rape for a while until it spawns again. Just keep an eye on it and destroy it again when it appears. Rinse and repeat. It's the noob pilots that fly into an area and start rocket pounding infantry while having its tail to the AA gun that have problems. If you're one of those folks DONT FLY A CHOPPER!!!!!

So what if I do that. That doesn't mean I can't get into a chopper and fly it. I don't understand why people feel the need to tell others how to play or that they can't do something because so and so is better at it. As stated earlier, I paid just as much $$ as the next guy so please do not tell me I can't use one of the in game vehicles. I guess people feel that they since they are so good at it they "own" that particular asset on the battlefield. I got news for ya!! You don't and if the chopper is available I will use and fly anyway I see fit! I admit I am not that good in them but I am getting better. Again as stated earlier the only way to get better is to practice. I am sure you "L33T" pilots were once noobs too and had to learn so just stop tellling people they can't use the chopper because you are better at it.

[Bob_the_Insane]

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I think the key element here is you recognise you are learning and are not the best...

The think the point is if you are being owned in the chopper and aare under the delusion that you are a great pilot don;t come in here blaming patch for your lack of skills...

I don't think anyone is suggesting that people should not just jump into the chopper and have some fun...

[=PM=Unity]

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I don't think anyone is suggesting that people should not just jump into the chopper and have some fun...

Um, that looks exactly like what they are saying. A lot of the good pilots are elitists and feel they DESERVE the planes and choppers, and I call ********. I learned to fly through expert single player and screwing around on servers alone, and once I had my skill to where I wasn't getting any better with that I started flying in multi. So take a few hours and learn how to fly without messing the team up and bring it multiplayer side. Don't let other people push you around because most of them are just kids on power trips.

And my apologies to any good pilots who share my mentality, I know you're out there and thank you for your attempts at making the game enjoyable for all.

[[RNS]_[}{]ightower]

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So what if I do that. That doesn't mean I can't get into a chopper and fly it. I don't understand why people feel the need to tell others how to play or that they can't do something because so and so is better at it. As stated earlier, I paid just as much $$ as the next guy so please do not tell me I can't use one of the in game vehicles. I guess people feel that they since they are so good at it they "own" that particular asset on the battlefield. I got news for ya!! You don't and if the chopper is available I will use and fly anyway I see fit! I admit I am not that good in them but I am getting better. Again as stated earlier the only way to get better is to practice. I am sure you "L33T" pilots were once noobs too and had to learn so just stop tellling people they can't use the chopper because you are better at it.

Look pal, nobody is telling you that you can't use the chopper's. Just use common sense when you do. If you see that your doing crap with it(just getting blown the hell up all the time), let someone with experience use it. Now if the chopper is just sitting there, then by all means grab it, fly into a wall for all I care. But if it's at the teams expense, then do the right thing and let the experienced pilot's and gunner's do their work.

The only time I ever grab a Jet is either at first spawn and I'm the closest or when nobody's using it. Why...? because I can't fly Jets to good. But I do practice flying Jets in single player games.

[Capt_Havok]

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I'm a fairly good gunner (even managed to tag an oncoming jet with the TV missle a couple nights ago in a desperation move to avoid being bombed on the helipad), and I love hearing you real pilots out there talk about how you enjoy the challenge and how you love to step up your game. At least there are a few of you out there who man-up instead of throwing a tantrum holding your breath until you turn blue.

I even had a pilot APOLOGIZE to me for getting us killed because he popped flares too early.

You chopper pilots don't have to apologize for $^!%. I readily accept I'm in the mediocre class of pilot, and the stuff that killed you once would have killed me 5 times already.

In short, thanks for not being whiners and stepping up your game.

[imported_xRandoMx]

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Single player will teach you only so much about piloting. Eventually you have to go out to the pubs and take your beatings, learning as you go along.

[Alcorr]

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You guys can post all the end game screens you want of all your high scores, but they don't mean crap.

First off, we don't even know you used a chopper.

Second there is no indication of how much AA was actually USED against you....

And FYI im a great pilot and its incredibly difficult to even survive, let alone kill things when you are being shot down by people that do nothing more than hop in an AA and left click...

Even if you can do well against AA, this zero skill AA solution is still not good...

[[RNS]_[}{]ightower]

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You guys can post all the end game screens you want of all your high scores, but they don't mean crap.

First off, we don't even know you used a chopper.

Second there is no indication of how much AA was actually USED against you....

And FYI im a great pilot and its incredibly difficult to even survive, let alone kill things when you are being shot down by people that do nothing more than hop in an AA and left click...

Even if you can do well against AA, this zero skill AA solution is still not good...

This was last nights round.
Map: Sharqi Peninsula - Sorry, but there are no Jets on Sharqi. And there's no way anyone is doing all that in a Tank, it's just not happening.
AA: Useless against us in our Cobra Attack Helicopter. And god knows they tried to use AA on us. They simply gave up after awhile. Like I wrote before, it just wasn't worth it to get bombed out like that just to TRY and take us out.



And to all those cried like little babies, bitchin' and moanin' about the AA being too weak, this goes out to you suckers. Now start complaining some more about the AA til they take out choppers in BF2 completely.

I've never played a game in my life(I'm 30) that had soo many losers before. It's amazing how many little fags complain about this game. The game is still playable, but it's being ruined little by little. It's gonna turn into Battlefoot 2 soon, I can see it already.

[StrafeLeft]

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Sharqi is still easy in a chopper. Try Dragon Valley(64) on USMC and see how you do. I don't have a problem with ground AA in the chopper, it's the airplanes and random/stray AA/ATA, sometimes friendly, that kills me most of the time. And now the vehicles with mounted .50's are totally silent when they're shooting at you because of all the new sound bugs introduced with the patch.

The AA/ATA is really screwed up in this patch, worse than it was in 1.12. Have you seen it freak out and zig-zag? My own missles I shoot from my plane will set my lockon buzzer off sometimes.

[Alcorr]

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48 and 0 can and does happen on sharqi....whether your in a tank or just a godlike sniper.

And its not that I don't believe you.

Its just that If they really used AA in the round you went 48 and 0...you wouldn't get anywhere.

I mean you drop flares...then your dead...period.

Your case (if it actually happened) was a fluke....anyone can wait for flares and then left click....

[[RNS]_[}{]ightower]

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Sharqi is still easy in a chopper. Try Dragon Valley(64) on USMC and see how you do. I don't have a problem with ground AA in the chopper, it's the airplanes and random/stray AA/ATA, sometimes friendly, that kills me most of the time. And now the vehicles with mounted .50's are totally silent when they're shooting at you because of all the new sound bugs introduced with the patch.

The AA/ATA is really screwed up in this patch, worse than it was in 1.12. Have you seen it freak out and zig-zag? My own missles I shoot from my plane will set my lockon buzzer off sometimes.

Very true but, we did, and we only got shot down once(done it multiple times with only one death), by an FAV. The FAV is still the choppers worst enemy and it will always be. We'll try again tonight.

[Alcorr]

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What I don't understand is that the choppers were perfectly balanced in 1.12

Its all those whiners that have no skill that want thier f*cking easy kill no skill solutions...and whats really sad is that dice gives it to them...

The AA missiles needed to be fixed but 100% accuracy is not my idea of balance.

And ffs lowering hp and missile count....overkill....

[Bob_the_Insane]

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What I don't understand is that the choppers were perfectly balanced in 1.12

Its all those whiners that have no skill that want thier f*cking easy kill no skill solutions...and whats really sad is that dice gives it to them...

The AA missiles needed to be fixed but 100% accuracy is not my idea of balance.

And ffs lowering hp and missile count....overkill....

My opinion, Improvment in AA, great, reduction in missiles to a realistic number, great, reduction in HP, maybe unecessary given the above...

Though it always seemed odd to hit a cobra square on the nose with a tank round just to have it shrug it off and kill you anyway...

My in game experiences last night involved a lot of jets and helicopters flying around Clean Sweep blowing the crap out of everything... The helicopters stayed alive by flying real low and keeping moving and the jet just keep going real fast and any AA battery was target number one...

The life of pilot may be harder been experience shows that it is definately not impossible...

One reality issue, should a .50 MG really be so effective against choppers? Perhaps a nice tweak would involve nerfing them slightly leaving the aircratf vunerable to missles, rockets and lucky tank rounds but able to withstand MG fire for longer...

[Alcorr]

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reduction in missiles to a realistic number, great, reduction in HP, maybe unecessary given the above...

Why reduction in missiles?

I mean why don't we reduce bomb amount to 1 per plane. Why not reduce snipers to one shot and then you have to reload a whole clip...why don't support just have 5 shots and why don't we make shotguns fire 1 pellet at a time instead of 100?

/saracasm