Equality!

[Six.]

Re: Equality!

But of course- without inequality; then we wouldn't know better, wouldn't we?

It is inequality that has allowed the appreciation we have of our own talents, skills, benefits; etc. In any case- there is balance in superior tactics and not just skill; superior tactics and teamwork - is off-set by the amount of cooperation and effort needed to put into action - THAT is balance; that means people devoting their kits to the cause and achieving objectives. Inequality in itself allows balance to flourish.

We don't need a massive mundane game of rock paper scissors to demonstrate balance. It is the teams within themselves that must have the right and superior balance that allows them to win the battle.

"If you can balance a tack hammer on your head, you will head off your foes with a balanced attack. "
- The Sphinx ; 'Mystery Men' 1999

[Paas]

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People running an insanely expensive computer have no advantage in draw distance. I run graphics on pretty low detail but guess what? I set draw distance to 100%. Everyone who has 100% draw distance can see the same distance...unless they have a hack. :)

I run High/Med Settings and I set my draw distance to 90%. It doesn't hinder me in any form or fashion.

The weapons won't perform at 100% draw distance anyways, and you won't spot a jet at that distance also. So, it's pretty much worthless to have that extra 10%.

...plus, my frames went from 30-40, to 50-60. Pretty good for a:

Athlon Xp+2000@2gz., 1gig Geil Value Ram, 9600xt, 1x Seagate 80gig 7200rpm.

I keep finding ways for this setup to play great games at medium settings at least (Of course only at 1024x768 4xAA.) ...and get very playable framerates (50-60 on most games).

...though, ATI's x1900xt is making me second think my situation. Probably will be shelling out a quick 2 grand on a new setup pretty soon, 2.5 if you include the second card right away for crossfire.

{WP}Paas

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A rich person has no advantage in BF2, a more expensive graphics card gives people the edge over others less fortunate is the point I was making!

Not true at all. Less detail, lower res = easier to see targets. All a graphics card does is make it prettier.

[Roger Smith]

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Actually,a server side setting now is the time till round start. The R2 server is like a 15-20 seconds to start, so everyone is loaded in by then.

it takes me little over a min, ive played on a 50 second start time server and still didnt spawn with everyone else, and my computer isnt ****, but its not kick ass either.

[BigPig_PW69]

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First of all I would like to apologise for the "having a better graphics card gives you a massive advantage" comment! There is obviously no contest with FPS issues and graphics quality, but as regards the draw distance please take a look at the following screenshots.

The first pic shows a view looking directly at the carrier from the Dalian Plant coastline, as you can see very little difference, but the next picture which is a view with the carrier at the edge of view has increased the draw distance drastically!
This may explain how sometimes someone can see me before I see them!

[PunishedOne]

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5) Make it TRUE "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay.

War was never Rock, Paper Scissors.

[trousermouse]

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As in real life, expecting a game such as BF2 to promote fairness and equality is nothing more than an idle pipe-dream, but there are ways of levelling out the gameplay so everyone has a more equal chance!

1) Everyone start the game at the same time, or within a few seconds of each other.
2) Impossible to TK.
3) Some sort of queueing system for vehicles.
4) A ceiling on FPS, detail and view distances.
5) Make it TRUE "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay.

I am aware that points No1 and No2 are server settings, but that doesn't alleviate a) the initial connection to server times and b) C4 jumping.

I know it's wishful thinking, and I'm probably gonna get flame-grilled, but these would be top of my wish-list for a future patch.

Sometimes peace can only be bought about by war!

Ugh!!!!!! That's all we need is the ACLU getting involved in BF2.... Reminds me of an episode of King of the Hill where Bobby quits football to play soccer. They didn't keep score and no team ever lost.. I hate political correctness...

I didn't mean put the graphics ceiling at 800x600 and 30 FPS, I was merely pointing out that having a better graphics card (enhancing view distances) shouldn't enable an individual to see me before I see them (a MASSIVE advantage for the rich person).
In regards to "Rock, paper, Scissors" gameplay, I was refering primarily to the major flaw in AA (roll on the next patch).
On servers with FF off there are people using C4 to jump onto impossibly high roofs.

Dude, I don't even know where to begin on this one.... Should we raise taxes so the people on welfare can afford to play BF2? No one is entitled to play BF2 or anything else... I'm not rich by any means but I don't go around complaining about what someone has or can afford... Save your money and buy a better video card.

[BigPig_PW69]

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Thanks for all of your comments (positive or negative), but I suppose it all boils down to EA/DICE in the end!
I can only hope that X months down the line, after numerous patches, that BF2 has been greatly improved for the majority!