Equality!

[BigPig_PW69]

As in real life, expecting a game such as BF2 to promote fairness and equality is nothing more than an idle pipe-dream, but there are ways of levelling out the gameplay so everyone has a more equal chance!

1) Everyone start the game at the same time, or within a few seconds of each other.
2) Impossible to TK.
3) Some sort of queueing system for vehicles.
4) A ceiling on FPS, detail and view distances.
5) Make it TRUE "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay.

I am aware that points No1 and No2 are server settings, but that doesn't alleviate a) the initial connection to server times and b) C4 jumping.

I know it's wishful thinking, and I'm probably gonna get flame-grilled, but these would be top of my wish-list for a future patch.

Sometimes peace can only be bought about by war!

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Equality!

1) Everyone start the game at the same time, or within a few seconds of each other.
Peoples connections and computers play a large part in this too, but yea, it does suck to spawn into a map and the enemy already has the first flag and working on the second.
2) Impossible to TK.
Supposed to inspire good teamplay, and promote battlefield awareness, unfortunely it's abused and the missused
3) Some sort of queueing system for vehicles.
If people would be nice and responsible, this wouldn't be nescessary
4) A ceiling on FPS, detail and view distances.
I only disagree because I paid for my computer and built it to play games with a lot of detail and as well as it can, others shouldn't be hendered by someone that wants to run at 800x600 30 fps, and 20m draw distance
5) Make it TRUE "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay.
well, it kind of is already, just some tactics throw it out of whack

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[Baron Fuzzy]

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1) I shouldnt have to wait for your slow ass computer to load the map before playing. In a year from now, theyll be saying that about me because my pc isnt a digital representation of my penis and I dont upgrade it if I dont have to.

2) C4 jumping was a mistake. It existed in BF1942 until patch 1.4, and in BFV until I think 1.2, when it was removed for both. Theyll fix it if you complain enough.

3) Afraid not. The tank whores would cry anyway.

4) They are capped, just not everyone can reach that cap yet.

5) You want class A to always beat class B, thus removing any semblance of talent or accumulated skill? Different weapons arent meant to give you certain victory, only an advantage or disadvantage depending on circumstance. If I catch you at range with a rifle and youve only got a shotgun, youre probably toast unless youre lucky. Inversely, if you were point blank I would likely lose. More fun that way, when the gameplay is based solely on repetitive capturing of flags you need some variety.



Flamers are mostly uneducated trolls. Just think about how much puberty will punish them, and youll realize theres no need to respond to them unless youre at work and bored. Its the grammatically correct flamers to watch out for, you tool.

[sknight]

Re: Equality!

bah, communists! equality?

[Digital-Boy]

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Rock, paper, scisscors type gameplay = total suck.

You should have an advantage in certain situations, but being guarenteed of a victory by virtue of your class/vehicle is lame.

[Roger Smith]

Re: Equality!

Everyone start the game at the same time, or within a few seconds of each other.

not a bad idea for a server setting but i wouldnt want it as hardcoded, what if everyone on the server chugs, it would take forever!

Impossible to TK.

no

Some sort of queueing system for vehicles.

ive alrready made and deleated a thread about this, my first idea was to base it on medals, but that wouldnt leave much room for people to progress if they didnt have said medal. my friend then explained why its fine as is. if you dont allow a team to have ****ty pilots over good ones, it takes from the coheasion a team must have. a line system might work though. if you enter the area a vehicle spawns, you are first inline to get it, untill you get in, leave, or die. the privlege would go away 5 seconds after a vehicle spawns.

A ceiling on FPS, detail and view distances.

do what now?

Make it TRUE "Rock, Paper, Scissors" gameplay.

hugh?

C4 jumping.

what?

[BigPig_PW69]

Re: Equality!

Thanks for any constructive criticisms, inparticular scknight - lol!
But seriously, we are all aware of the bugs/glitches within BF2, many of which will be dealt with in the next patch, but I was merely pointing out issues that adversely affect my gameplay!

[BigPig_PW69]

Re: Equality!

I didn't mean put the graphics ceiling at 800x600 and 30 FPS, I was merely pointing out that having a better graphics card (enhancing view distances) shouldn't enable an individual to see me before I see them (a MASSIVE advantage for the rich person).
In regards to "Rock, paper, Scissors" gameplay, I was refering primarily to the major flaw in AA (roll on the next patch).
On servers with FF off there are people using C4 to jump onto impossibly high roofs.

[Auto-ER-]

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not a bad idea for a server setting but i wouldnt want it as hardcoded, what if everyone on the server chugs, it would take forever!

Actually,a server side setting now is the time till round start. The R2 server is like a 15-20 seconds to start, so everyone is loaded in by then.

(a MASSIVE advantage for the rich person).

I'm hardly rich, I just know how to manage money and decided what I wanted and what I could do so I could afford it.

[HicRic]

Re: Equality!

People running an insanely expensive computer have no advantage in draw distance. I run graphics on pretty low detail but guess what? I set draw distance to 100%. Everyone who has 100% draw distance can see the same distance...unless they have a hack. :)

[BigPig_PW69]

Re: Equality!

HicRic
I must have been shot by many hackers then lol.
I'm gonna do some experimenting with my clan members and hopefully prove that better graphics/higher resolutions = increased draw distance, if not I'll apologize right here!

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A rich person has no advantage in BF2, a more expensive graphics card gives people the edge over others less fortunate is the point I was making!

[sknight]

Re: Equality!

Thanks for any constructive criticisms, inparticular scknight - lol!
But seriously, we are all aware of the bugs/glitches within BF2, many of which will be dealt with in the next patch, but I was merely pointing out issues that adversely affect my gameplay!

No really! I wasn't being inane. Communism has to do with equality among all of it's members. Everyone gets the same ammenities (e.g. the same computer/specifications) and I personally think that if you pay more for a computer, you deserve to have your games run better and see farther. I was bringing my opinion in a rather humours and idiotic way.

[Baron Fuzzy]

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HicRic
I must have been shot by many hackers then lol.
I'm gonna do some experimenting with my clan members and hopefully prove that better graphics/higher resolutions = increased draw distance, if not I'll apologize right here!

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A rich person has no advantage in BF2, a more expensive graphics card gives people the edge over others less fortunate is the point I was making!

Honest answer? Ive intentionally decreased the quality of the textures, shadows and terrain maps in every competitive online game Ive played. I find that the decrease in visual clutter makes players stand out far more than they would at maxed settings. Thats just my preference though.

[testingtesting12]

Re: Equality!

I agree with some of these, 1 + 5 and somewhat with 3

[testingtesting12]

Re: Equality!

No really! I wasn't being inane. Communism has to do with equality among all of it's members. Everyone gets the same ammenities (e.g. the same computer/specifications) and I personally think that if you pay more for a computer, you deserve to have your games run better and see farther. I was bringing my opinion in a rather humours and idiotic way.

This isn't anything like communism, this isn't equality, only fairness. A good pilot will still outclass a bad one and so on..