C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

[DrJambo]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

if yer skurd

huh?

Looking at your stats, which I know you hate, I doubt shotguns are your thing! In fact you're more likely to be on the end of one of my shotty blasts.

Anyway, I'm only jesting with you now. The point still remains that hopefully the 1.2 patch will reduce C4 abuse. Hopefully DICE will also see sense in reducing the requirements of the ordinance badges as this would help discourage C4 abuse in the first place.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

huh?

Looking at your stats, which I know you hate, I doubt shotguns are your thing! In fact you're more likely to be on the end of one of my shotty blasts.

Anyway, I'm only jesting with you now. The point still remains that hopefully the 1.2 patch will reduce C4 abuse. Hopefully DICE will also see sense in reducing the requirements of the ordinance badges as this would help discourage C4 abuse in the first place.

I understand completely about the C4 abuse, I've been on the receiving end of some fantastic chuckers, over and over again. My problem isn't a solution, it's with most of the suggested solutions. For C4 the fix is done' you can't jump and fire, which I would hope includes the detonator meaning you'd have to hit the ground before you could fire, but making it to where you can't throw a block is more unrealistic than how people use it now. I love the GL changes, perfect, but I do not think they should eliminate firing and jumping, jumping and reloading yes, but firing no, why? Because in real life you can fire and jump, not that you would, but you could. On the other hand, if you have a gun, try jumping around and reloading it, not going to happen.

Like I said, stats don't show a lot, in this instance say you're in a tank, and you jump out, default weapon is shotgun, but the tank blows up and you die, shotgun in your hand counts as a death while using it, or you spawn into a camping APC, or arty, death while using the weapon. The offer is still up for you to come play a few rounds and see if you think stats tell you what you want to know about how a person plays, till them, keep reading what you want into them.

[Talus]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Talus, it's hard to tell from that video, but it looks like they nerfed the insta-det (have no way of telling what the guy was trying for). If so, than that's good enough to kill them before they blow it, and still maintain the fact that a grown man could heave a 5lb block more than a couple feet.

From the video I saw...it looks like he's blowing that C4 pretty quickly. He's throwing it high in the air, over a fence, ,blowing it quickly, and repeating ad nauseum.

We'll have to wait until it is actually released to know for sure. It may be changed from what we see in the video, or it may actually be and feel different when we actually see it in action.

Remember..this ISN'T about being unable to throw a 5lb block or not. If it were, then we'd also need for tanks to be disabled with one rocket to the treads, being able to take down a blackhawk with a few properly placed .50 cal rounds or one AT rocket. Sure, we'd like the freedom to do whatever we want with the tools given in a 'sandbox' type of environment...but that isn't balanced which means it isn't fun.

This is a game. It has to be fun. It has to be fun to chuck c4 AND it has to be fun to be blown up by it. But it isn't fun to be blown up by some c4 chucking n00b. It's downright imbalanced with no counter.

I don't mind being killed by any other method (except for point-blank n00b t00bing of course).

[Auto-ER-]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

See, it doesn't bother me how I die, I still got killed and have to wait 15 seconds to get back in. I've killed many a C4 chucker, but like I said have been teh victim many times too. I just enjoy, and fight fire with fire. This game goes either way for me, twitch or tactical, I can enjoy both.

[Talus]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Play as any class EXCEPT Spec Ops (i.e. don't play Spec Ops for a while), and then get back to me

[InfSoldierDaz]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

I hope Bunny hopping is wiped out as well as the C4 throwing. I know it's only a game, but it takes some of the fun out of the game and it looks ridiculous when soldiers are jumping around all over the game. And I would like some cheese please!

[David Champion]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

I hope Bunny hopping is wiped out as well as the C4 throwing. I know it's only a game, but it takes some of the fun out of the game and it looks ridiculous when soldiers are jumping around all over the game. And I would like some cheese please!

I don't think the hopping is gone but you can't shoot while doing it like now, I love it though when all their hopping doesn't help them and i still kill them

[Auto-ER-]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Play as any class EXCEPT Spec Ops (i.e. don't play Spec Ops for a while), and then get back to me

I only break out Spec Ops nowadays to take out camping tank/apcs, more than likely you'll see me as support, engineer, or AT. I have no problem admitting when I first started playing I was a Spec Ops junkie, it's the ultimate multi purpose class.

[InfSoldierDaz]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

but I do not think they should eliminate firing and jumping, jumping and reloading yes, but firing no, why? Because in real life you can fire and jump, not that you would, but you could. On the other hand, if you have a gun, try jumping around and reloading it, not going to happen.

You should try firing and jumping when your in uniform, loaded down with webbing, helmet, body armour, water and ammunition. As a serving soldier this is not practical as you use most of your energy running, taking cover and conducting fire and manoeuvre. No matter how fit you are you ain’t bunny hopping all over the battlefield.
As for firing and jumping, you wouldn’t hit a thing unless you got lucky, so that's not practical either. I know, it's only a game, but it would be more fun if it were a little more realistic.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

You should try firing and jumping when your in uniform, loaded down with webbing, helmet, body armour, water and ammunition. As a serving soldier this is not practical as you use most of your energy running, taking cover and conducting fire and manoeuvre. No matter how fit you are you ain’t bunny hopping all over the battlefield.
As for firing and jumping, you wouldn’t hit a thing unless you got lucky, so that's not practical either. I know, it's only a game, but it would be more fun if it were a little more realistic.

After 5.5 years in service, and two tours I am well aware of the restrictions on jumping and shooting with gear on, I've seen it live and in person. That doesn't mean you're going to hit the broad side of a barn, but it is possible. Also after having been in real life combat, I know just how unrealistic this game really is, immersive and quite good, but no matter what tweaking is done it will NEVER come close to the real thing.

[InfSoldierDaz]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Yea David, I agree, killing them as they hop is a pleasure! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[InfSoldierDaz]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

After 5.5 years in service,

it will NEVER come close to the real thing.

Wow! That long in service huh? You got a lot of experience then. Well done!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Fun aside, your right about the game, but hey it's only a game and great fun!

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Get over it dude, and face the fact that Spec Ops is THE best choice for taking out two APCs and a tank with all engineers in them fixing each other. AT is useless agaionst them if there's only one, and more people use their rockets against infantry than tanks anyway. And it's retarded, yes retarded to make it to where a grown man can't lob a 5lb block of C4 over a wall because I bunch of whiners can't deal with it.

have you ever seen a grown map lob C4 to kill infantries 3 feets away from you?

[DuffMan]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Learn to get out of the way and it won't be a problem.

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: C4 chucking has to go in 1.2

Learn to get out of the way and it won't be a problem.

It's not really a problem (maybe only for G36C noobs, but not for PKM user like me), however it's saddening to see supposed spec ops jump around.