Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

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  • seeker[uk]

    #16
    Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

    Let me clarify.

    I believe that as a sniper you cant score anywhere near as much points as other classes....of course im no l33t player and im the first to admit that.
    But lol.....i wound more players than i kill because my bloody great bullet only left a hole in their chest and not in their head. This leaves them with 5% health and they then get killed my someone else who then gets 2 points to my 1 point (correct me if im wrong) seems a bit sad to me.

    PLUS.....i dont recal saying i had a problem in killing other players...i have a problem in scoring as much as other players.
    And i dont think everyone would then play as sniper m8....thats an obvious statement to make...The fact is sniper is to boring for most others to play,and if you spent time playing as a sniper you would know how to go about killing them.I love killing other snipers so more would be cool
    So yea..thats my point if you can see it.

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    • Harmor

      #17
      Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

      I have no problem with Snipers having a "pool" when they spot an enemy, but if they keep spotting the same enemy they get negative pool points (this is to stop spammers). Five spots, without spotting the same enemy while spotted, should give 1 teamwork point.

      If a sniper spots an enemy and someone kills while its spooted then I think the sniper should get a kill assist point; this "point" would go under Teamwork and not Combat.

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      • Legli

        #18
        Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

        Spotting is handy (I do it all the time, it even helps you as you can see what direction a foe you are following took round the corner) and some kind of scoring system for snipers/anyone would be nice even if it maxed out at maybe 10 points a round or something.
        As for one shot kill snipers - No way, look what happened to Joint Ops, you couldnt move without the snipers (all 99 of them) blasting away at you.

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        • eggy

          #19
          Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you poi

          Maybe an incentive would be to recieve a special ribbon/badge for snipers who spot say 500 or so enemies?? at least that way you wouldnt have the hoards of sniper spotter whores. just a thought...

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          • Xiver

            #20
            Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

            Originally posted by DrJambo
            I've had a better idea and one which will be more useful tactically.

            What about giving snipers kill assists when they spot an enemy unit and during the flashing icon period on the minimap that enemy unit is then subsequently killed by another teammate?

            This would prevent pointless spam spotting of the enemy and streamline the sniper's roll.

            Thoughts?
            I think that is a pretty good idea.

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            • Lord_Phelps

              #21
              Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

              Originally posted by seeker[uk]
              PLEASE GIVE THE SNIPER CLASS A 1 SHOT KILL ABILITY and i refer to body shots......THEN ITS BELIEVABLE AT LEAST
              did you not play counterstrike at all ?? there was so much moaning about the ability of the AWP to make 1 shot kills that they limited it to 1 per team on loads of servers and banned it totally on some! If you shot anyone with the AWP there was an imediate outburst of "Camping AWP-ing bastard" or words to that effect.

              One shot kills would result it so much moaning ! ... much as personally i would love it !

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              • Bob_the_Insane

                #22
                Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                Well the sniper is really in the same position as the Assault kit and the AT kit when it comes to scoring team points. But the Assault guy and AT kit as better equiped for getting stuck in and killing up close and personal. This in turn means that they are likely to pick up flag points. The sniper is a little more fragile and is not equiped to take on enemy hordes at close range or deal with vehicles so he is likely to miss out on the flag points.

                I play a sniper sometimes and it is great fun to challenge yourself with the hard shots and dealing with enemy snipers. But even with a handful of kills I rarely score much. You spend (waste?) a lot of time being patient, getting into good positions and taking shots.

                I guess this point for spotting thing is a reaction to the lack of teamwork points that snipers usually earn. It also sounds like a reasonable idea. BUt I would argue that if you did this you would need to introduce a direct means for the AT and Assault guys to directly earn TPs too...

                I think this is a "can of worms"...

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                • seeker[uk]

                  #23
                  Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                  ok phelps...not a bad point.

                  then maybe a limited amount of snipers based on team size with the one shot kill abillity.

                  realistic and fair to all classes...plus a fairer share of kills/points.

                  or whatever..

                  :laugh:

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                  • imported_Sin317

                    #24
                    Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                    imagine the point fest on maps like karkand or mashtuur ...

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                    • rombaft

                      #25
                      Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                      what is so special about spotting a sniper ?? you see them form miles away and probably miss you anyway .

                      Also, again, think before posting stuff like this, this is again a perfect tool that can be used to exploit, 5 sniper clanmembers on enemy team, one guy knows where they are and lets go start spoting those snipers .

                      Spotting an enemy is a pieve of cake has no risc or whatever involved, takes about 0.0001 sec .

                      What is next getting points for shooting holes in the wall ??

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                      • Bob_the_Insane

                        #26
                        Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                        Originally posted by rombaft
                        what is so special about spotting a sniper ?? you see them form miles away and probably miss you anyway .

                        Also, again, think before posting stuff like this, this is again a perfect tool that can be used to exploit, 5 sniper clanmembers on enemy team, one guy knows where they are and lets go start spoting those snipers .

                        Spotting an enemy is a pieve of cake has no risc or whatever involved, takes about 0.0001 sec .

                        What is next getting points for shooting holes in the wall ??

                        LOL dude... They are talking about spotting AS a sniper, not spoting snipers themselves...

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                        • rombaft

                          #27
                          Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                          Originally posted by Bob_the_Insane
                          LOL dude... They are talking about spotting AS a sniper, not spoting snipers themselves...
                          AH, OK, but I keep my point, spotting enemy's is like piece of cake, ow boy, just lie down on a roof on karkand and end the round with 1000 points, also this would cause massive polution of the chat channel

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                          this you need to hear for about 15 min (time of round)

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                          • JohnnyBigGuns

                            #28
                            Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                            I have a better idea. Have it so the commander cannot use an artillary barrage unless a sniper spots it for them. As it is now the artillary is a little overused in my opinion.

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                            • Bob_the_Insane

                              #29
                              Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                              Personal opinion is that this is not necessary and it is missing out on the point of giving TPs out in the first place. The reason was becasue without them there would have been few medics, support or engineers running around. The maps would be populated with Spec Ops, Snipers and Assault troopers. This is why they exist, to give the support classes the ability to compete.

                              The killing classes (AT, Assault and Sniper) don't need another way to generate even more points. I think this discussion is simply a symtom of the general feeling that the sniper class is lacking something...

                              Myself I don't think this is the case I think the weapons are deadly (head shots) and the accuarcy improvement in the next patch will be nice. My opinion is that they have taken away the ability of the sniper to go unseen with the commander tools. I think if you simply made snipers invisible to the Scan tool (not the UAV) that would significantly improve the snipers odds...

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                              • Razzia.be

                                #30
                                Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

                                well that would be a bad idea because:

                                -spam of voice commands all the time
                                -spotting-whores

                                and then they start complaining and EA has to nerf it in the next patch

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