Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

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Snipers should have a point incentive for spotting enemies. Of course it has to be limited in such a way so that they don't pad their stats by flooding spotted messages on the same vehicles. Perhaps just one point per spotted enemy and more points for each subsequent spot after the enemy has disappeared from the radar (so that they reappear on the radar). This would benefit the team by making high value targets like armor more visible to players that can deal with them like aircraft and AT kits.

[DickY]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

Why not making it a skill for every class?
Or just making it some kind of teampoint when you spot somebody who then gets killed by your teammates?

[Flashpoint2]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

I agree, perhaps if you spot someone and then someone kills him within like 10- 15 seconds you get a third of a point or something.

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Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you poi

Why not making it a skill for every class?
Or just making it some kind of teampoint when you spot somebody who then gets killed by your teammates?

I mentioned snipers specifically because they are well suited for recon missions. A good sniper can let their team know everything that is going on in the battlefield. Giving everyone that ability would be kind of cheap though and would make the sniper class less special.

[Mrs]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

Surprise suprise, Id actually agree with this one, a well placed sniper should be able to spot most of the map (depending on map size), if not, at least the surrounding 3 CP's. Ive seen some very good snipers mimic commander roles in regards to spotting enemies. It can be a very strong tactic for your team and one that should probably be rewarded.

[Lord_Phelps]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

Snipers should have a point incentive for spotting enemies. Of course it has to be limited in such a way so that they don't pad their stats by flooding spotted messages on the same vehicles. Perhaps just one point per spotted enemy and more points for each subsequent spot after the enemy has disappeared from the radar (so that they reappear on the radar). This would benefit the team by making high value targets like armor more visible to players that can deal with them like aircraft and AT kits.

I play sniper alot, and i do alot of spotting of vehicles and infantry, sot therefore this kind of system would be pretty good for me, however i think that there would have to be some limit on the points, otherwise it would be very easy to rack up massive scores, especially if you get one point for each enemy spotted, i for one would get about 20 spotting points per round, which is way to much for the amount of effort that spotting takes. The only possible way to do it would be to give a point if the target was then killed, but even then i think that it may be to much, it would just result in alot of moaning about snipers "stat padding".

Spotting enemies is a very useful part of the game and helps out the team alot (despite the lack of it from alot of player), however i think that "helping out the team" will have to stay as the reward for your work.

[minkes]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you poi

No, it shouldn't be rewarded. If you would get one point per spotted enemy we would see hordes of snipers runnig around just spotting enemies to get points. It would be easy to get 60 points or so in a normal round, for doing almost nothing. Some people should think about working for their team and not for the points only. If they should add points for snipers it should be something like extra points for flag defense or for shooting guys out of mounted guns, tank turrets or something like that.
I guess the sniper class will be much better after the patch because of the higher accuracy, so you should get enough points via kills.

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Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you poi

No, it shouldn't be rewarded. If you would get one point per spotted enemy we would see hordes of snipers runnig around just spotting enemies to get points. It would be easy to get 60 points or so in a normal round, for doing almost nothing. Some people should think about working for their team and not for the points only. If they should add points for snipers it should be something like extra points for flag defense or for shooting guys out of mounted guns, tank turrets or something like that.
I guess the sniper class will be much better after the patch because of the higher accuracy, so you should get enough points via kills.

The points are merely an incentive to get snipers to actually spot enemies. How the points are doled out, I can't really say myself. Perhaps there should be a certain amount of points given to the spotter if the enemy was killed like another poster said. I'm not sure how many snipers actually spot enemies right now although I imagine the number is somewhat low. I myself spot enemies whenever I can. Especially choppers. I'll keep a chopper on my teams radar for as long as possible so a jet can take the bastard out. As a pilot, I love seeing those lovely red enemy icons appear on my radar. That's a free kill for me.

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Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you poi

Surprise suprise, Id actually agree with this one, a well placed sniper should be able to spot most of the map (depending on map size), if not, at least the surrounding 3 CP's. Ive seen some very good snipers mimic commander roles in regards to spotting enemies. It can be a very strong tactic for your team and one that should probably be rewarded.

Damn right. I've sent many tanks, apcs and choppers to their doom by spotting them every 5 seconds or so. You would not believe how easy it is for a friendly jet to pwnasaurus rex someone once they see their position on the radar. Spotting can be like calling in an airstrike most of the time when you have good pilots.

[Tenshi]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

We should also be able to perminently mark a unit as long as our scope is on them. Should also remove the corresponding radio announcement to cut down on radio spam.

Snipers dont really get any additional way to get points like some of the other classes. We can get kill assists - but so can everyone.

The people that argue against something like this are the same people that argue that snipers should do something more useful than try to kill everyone - how else do we get points?

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Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you poi

We should also be able to perminently mark a unit as long as our scope is on them. Should also remove the corresponding radio announcement to cut down on radio spam.

Snipers dont really get any additional way to get points like some of the other classes. We can get kill assists - but so can everyone.

The people that argue against something like this are the same people that argue that snipers should do something more useful than try to kill everyone - how else do we get points?

For some reason snipers are despised in every single game that's out there. Perhaps it's the "counter-strike generation" bringing their lame AWP whining to other games?

[MeNoPausE]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

In real battle snipers spot enemies and report back to their superiors. They deserve some sort of extra points for doing so. I can get around 60 to 80 points pretty easily by following around my squad and focusing on revive and heal as medic, or driving a smaller faster vehicle as an engineer and following apc's and tanks repairing them. I can get 60 points by killing people as assault with a grenade launcher and a bunch of flag caps. I can cruise around in a tank and get 60 and usually more points by capping and killing. In every kit besides the sniper, I can rack up points and even break 100 but with the sniper kit I never rack up points unless I am using the kit incorrectly by whoring a vehicle etc. By using the sniper kit the way it's meant to be used I can help my team win but I can't rack up the points like any other kit in this game. The most common scenario for me is that I shoot people and they lose most of their health but find cover before I finish them off, that gets pretty annoying, esp. since an m95 can pierce light armor imagine what it should do to flesh.
Maybe there should be some sort of thing like commander (2x bonus for winning round) where after a round ends you get some sort of percentage of points based on how many people you spotted and if your team won. Like if you spotted 30 people you get 30% of your individual score as a bonus but just for the snipers. Just a thought, but something needs to be done, the accuracy will help in the next patch but something else needs to be done.

[seeker[uk]]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

I got to agree with some of these points made....
It seems it is ok to get in a tank and score 100+ points by spawn killing and whoring.
But i have a good game if i score 30+ points with my totally unrealistic sniper rifle.
But wot confuses me is this talk of the accuracy getting better in the next patch???
When i play sniper (whether im crouched/stood or prone) if i fire at a point then the bullet hits that point.
How can accuracy be better than that?????

And IMO forget all this points for whatever.....

PLEASE GIVE THE SNIPER CLASS A 1 SHOT KILL ABILITY and i refer to body shots......THEN ITS BELIEVABLE AT LEAST

[DrJambo]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

I've had a better idea and one which will be more useful tactically.

What about giving snipers kill assists when they spot an enemy unit and during the flashing icon period on the minimap that enemy unit is then subsequently killed by another teammate?

This would prevent pointless spam spotting of the enemy and streamline the sniper's roll.

Thoughts?

[DickY]

Re: Spotting enemies as sniper should be a "skill" (ala medic/engie) and earn you points!

PLEASE GIVE THE SNIPER CLASS A 1 SHOT KILL ABILITY and i refer to body shots......THEN ITS BELIEVABLE AT LEAST

How realistically that would be, it would totally alter the BF2 gameplay, and EVERYBODY would play that class imho :p

I played about 0.5% of my BF2 playing time as sniper, and had NO problem what so ever in killing people with the non-unlock sniper rifles, so I don't really see your point, sorry